Roman Pavlyuchenko

[tobi]

In Europe he (Crouch) can be effective, although if the opposition did their homework it would be a different story.

Re Pav, when his touch isn't there he might as well not be playing but I agree with Dan, attributes wise he is the best of what we have. However that just makes his inconsistent play even more infuriating.

 

[jonathanhotspur]

In Europe he (Crouch) can be effective, although if the opposition did their homework it would be a different story.

Re Pav, when his touch isn't there he might as well not be playing but I agree with Dan, attributes wise he is the best of what we have. However that just makes his inconsistent play even more infuriating.

It was a real eye opener the way it took AC Milan all of one game to figure out how to deal with the threat of Crouch.

 

[striebs]

In Europe he (Crouch) can be effective, although if the opposition did their homework it would be a different story.

Re Pav, when his touch isn't there he might as well not be playing but I agree with Dan, attributes wise he is the best of what we have. However that just makes his inconsistent play even more infuriating.

I think Crouch overall is better but they are both so far off what we need that it is not worth argueing about .

Pav is better than Defoe but I have this terrible nightmare of Defoe being here next season .

 

[Sanj]

Honestly, truthfully, does anybody think he is good enough?

He's got to go in my book (not the first on my list to go) but I know opinions are somewhat divided. Surely you must all be coming round to that fact yeah, he's not good enough, let's move on and sell him to Russia.

compared to our other strikers - hell yes.
Yes at times his touch is poor, but he allows he holds the ball up better than defoe, and arguably crouch. His movement is far superior to the other strikers and he has outscored our other strikers this season.

Today we played some football while pav was on the pitch, but once defoe came on we had no link up play and no out ball at all.

So all in all, Pav is good enough for us whilst we still have defoe and crouch at the club.

 

[Damian99]

It was a real eye opener the way it took AC Milan all of one game to figure out how to deal with the threat of Crouch.

Must be every manager and players nightmare working out what crouch's strengths are. Good defenders won't be shitting their pants over having to deal with him.

 

[Mr Pink]

Pav is just too slow and extremely weak given his size. Touch not good enough and lacks the required appetite for this League, well in our side with the ambitions we have.

On his day when he brings his shooting boots he can look pretty bloody handy, but ultimately its not enough.

 

[Knarf44]

Pav is just too slow and extremely weak given his size. Touch not good enough and lacks the required appetite for this League, well in our side with the ambitions we have.

On his day when he brings his shooting boots he can look pretty bloody handy, but ultimately its not enough.

Agreed.

 

[jonathanhotspur]

Must be every manager and players nightmare working out what crouch's strengths are. Good defenders won't be shitting their pants over having to deal with him.

Harry did an interview earlier this season where he said that to get the maximum return from Crouch, you don't play the ball to his feet-you play it to his head!

 

[StartingPrice]

We have this conversation about him every fricking summer! We've been carrying some of our deadwood for so long that I don't know if we'll ever shift them-especially when we look for top dollar.

Thats true, I agree it will be harder than we think to get rid of our fringe players and for the money we ideally want for them.

Don't know if that is quite true.
O'Hara and Krankjar are quite highly considered...just not quite good enough for our first team, and not prepared to be squad players, and neither cost a lot/anything.
Keane could do a job, especially for an ambitious lower end of EPL/newly promoted team...as much off the field as on.
I'm fairly certain an overseas outfit will pay more for GDS than we paid for him.
The only one we will struggle with is Bentley, IMHO.

I'm sure we will be able to Pap Hutton off back up to Scotland (or United, Red Nose may need a drinking buddy - "no, no, Sir Alex, don't offer to be a father figure to him":grin.

The Ruskies seem quite keen on getting Pav back, and if we let JD or Crouch go, I would imagine a team challenging to establish themselves as a top 10 side would be quite keen - it's not easy to find a goalscorer, even at that level.

 

[jonathanhotspur]

I wasn't talking about Kranjcar, SP. I rate him and don't want him to go anywhere.

I'm talking about guys like Pav, Bentley, Keane, Hutton and Jenas.

 

[double0]

Its saying something when Defoe's strength puts Pav's to shame...don't know if anyone saw how livid Van De Vaart was with pavluychenko's hold up play and stupidity with his choice to shoot at ridiculous angles.

Said before at best his a super sub.

 

[steventhfc]

8-12 mil and he can fucking go, heck I'll even drive him to the airport.

 

[kaz Hirai]

8-12 mil and he can fucking go, heck I'll even drive him to the airport.

make sure u pick up defoe and crouch on the way

 

[buksida]

compared to our other strikers - hell yes.
Yes at times his touch is poor, but he allows he holds the ball up better than defoe, and arguably crouch. His movement is far superior to the other strikers and he has outscored our other strikers this season.

Today we played some football while pav was on the pitch, but once defoe came on we had no link up play and no out ball at all.

So all in all, Pav is good enough for us whilst we still have defoe and crouch at the club.

This

 

[Hoddle_Ledge]

I've always been a big fan of Pav, I still believe he is one of the best finishers in the league (when the ball is a foot in front of him and no one within ten yards of him).

But today he was well and truly pathetic. I could see the reaction on the bench after every one of the many bad touches and the sighs could probably be heard in Russia.

 

[nightgoat]

Today he was absolutely atrocious, and if that doesn't seal his way out of the club then I don't know what will...

 

[Spurs_Q8]

the problem, most of you noticed this point in the last two weeks of the season, i don't rate our strikers since last season, and i've already suggested that playing 4-6-0 or using Harry Kane or even Bassong could be better option than losing two slots for 2 strikers.

the only positive for us and Harry, Pav given his chance and failed to prove his worth in the starting XI, even last season when he was in-form, that's was from the bench ! and i've already said before he useful player but not starter, now at least he could understand that why wasn't playing.

I like him so much but he isn't good enough, may be he can only useful for Arsenal from the top 6 sides in EPL.

 

[sussex.spur]

Pav has been given a few games now, so I think we can see what he has to offer, yesterday it was very little. For the right team he could be a useful player, so we should get back some of what we paid for him. Yesterday I would rather have had Darren Bent !

 

[sidford]

He was like a statue yesterday. He was nowhere to be seen when some good crosses were put in yesterday in the first half (neither was Defoe). His lack of movement is ax real concern. Same with Defoe. I can only remember defoe making one run into the channels and that was in the 2nd half. Can't remember pav doing it all.
I know he has his fans on here but his inconsistentcy, his lack of movement and the fact he can't form a partnership with any of our strikers should lead to him being sold in the summer

 

[Krafty]

Both Pav and Defoe did not play well today. JD covers it a little by scoring a good goal, but both strikers off the ball movement is shocking and you might as well only play one of them and tell them not to bother playing in the build up....

That said, at least Defoe showed some effort. Pavlyuchenko was an embarrassment and should be docked a weeks wages.

Played one good ball into Bale, after not playing him in about three times. Didn't want to challenge for the ball, didn't run channels, couldn't make passes, flat footed, just woeful, one of the worst performances from a Spurs player I have ever seen.

8-10 mill is very optimistic in my opinion. If someone offered 7 mill I'd bite their hands off.