Match Ratings Ratings vs Palace

[jamesc0le]

How on earth was that the same performance? We countered far more effectively against Leicester and tested their keep ten times more, literally.

So another 'Jesus Christ' from me I'm afraid lol.

Absolutely baffled at how you interpret two very different performances.

think bullet spur confused his '' pathetic'' rating of the newcastle match with the leicester game. wasn't it newcastle everyone jumped on him nah?

 

[Mr Pink]

Just not satisfied with either performance, just not. We are better (or should be ) better than that

We were very good against Leicester, even though they had much more of the ball we thoroughly deserved to win on the vast amount of chances we created and I enjoyed our counter attacking display.

Today was a completely different performance. After a bright start we faded and then laboured, and Palace were worth the point. Second half we didn't even test their keeper once. It was an ugly/scrappy get the result over the line second half kind of performance.

Respectfully, the performances were night and day so I've no idea why your drawing these so called parallels.

 

[eViL]

I just can’t see us making progress with this style of football

What style do you think will make us more progressive?

 

[PaulM]

100% agree with OP.

I fear for next season if Mourinho is happy with this kind of display. We only have Kane to thank for getting us a point.

What utter horse manure of a display that was.

Mourinho said after the game that he wasn't happy with today. And nor should he be, it was poor. But for the OP to claim that Leicester was a similar performance is incredible. We were very good against Leicester.

Since the lockdown we've P 9 W 5 D 3 L1. Over a season, we'd be pushing top 4 hard on that form. Add to that Jose will have a pre season with the squad and will bring in a couple of his own players and I think we have reason to be optimistic. It's not always pretty but you don't hire Mourinho to have pretty football. You hire him to win and there are signs that's exactly what we'll be doing next season.

 

[1882andallthat]

100% agree with OP.

I fear for next season if Mourinho is happy with this kind of display. We only have Kane to thank for getting us a point.

What utter horse manure of a display that was.

It wasn't a good performance, but if we're looking at the performances since the restart I can think of two worse performances from these 9 games, with the Sheffield United and Bournemouth performances being much worse.

5 wins 3 draws and 1 defeat, is not spectacular but it's a pretty decent return and there aren't many I can think of in the league who have had a better return than that.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

The last time we performed like that we won 3-0, but because I was critical of our performance, I was called "Jesus Christ", "A Doom Merchant" "A Clown" and other names. We performed the same way today, so those people who were critical of me, can hands on heart say that result again justified this performance? I do not like it. No composure, no thought process (e.g tackling in a way knowing that you are going to be penalized), bad first touch etc etc etc. We may have finished 6th but undeserved if I am to be truthful as teams like Wolves have played much better than us. I will add (to my detriment), I think Crystal Palace played better than us as they seemed, cohesive, confident and not running around like headless chickens like us. I am prepared to accept the criticism again, but this is honestly how I feel. I really hope there is an improvement next season in our performances.

He hardly got any service, but his goal today kept us finishing 6th this season so Harry MOTM.

We played a similar style but we didn’t play the same

As if we were on the beach for the last 70 mins today

All Jose has ever cared about is the ultimate result ie 6th and Europa League in this case and once again he’s achieved his objective

By his reaction at the final whistle it was almost as if we’d won next seasons Europa League already...

 

[adamsky]

There were 10 - 15 minutes passages of play where I was imploring for one player to do something, anything decent. Is incredible that a team of international footballers paid thousands of pounds a week can’t even play a simple pass. We make everything look so laboured.

 

[double0]

If Kane doesn't score we are truly screwed. Son really has to look at his performances when Kane plays.

Good overall finish to the season... Qualifying for Europe

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Good first half, not great 2nd but got the job done. Best I’ve seen Lucas play aside from the CL semi.

 

[Gilzean at the near post]

Sissoko's touch is embarrasing for a Spurs footballer. I lost count of the number of times moves break down with his lack of control or misplaced simple passes. To progress he must be replaced next season.

 

[Timberwolf]

How on earth was that the same performance? We countered far more effectively against Leicester and tested their keep ten times more, literally.

So another 'Jesus Christ' from me I'm afraid lol.

Absolutely baffled at how you interpret two very different performances.

I agree with you to an extent, but didn't we only have 4 shots on target against Leicester, 3 of which were goals? I'm fairly certain the only save Schmeichel made in the entire match was from Son's shot (which was both a great chance and save). This is understandable as we basically killed the game and shut up shop but we hardly tested the keeper and didn't actually create much at all - we were just incredibly clinical.

I think I fall somewhere between the two camps. I don't think we were as brilliant against Leicester as some are making out, but nor was today's performance as apocalyptic as others are saying. Similarly to AVB, Mourinho is basically playing the percentages. He's limiting the opposition's clear cut chances as much as possible, making us into a really strong, coherent defensive unit and then relying on the talent of our attacking players to make the difference. On a good day we're extremely clinical and can just shut down games, but on a bad day, while we're unlikely to get steamrollered, it makes for tough viewing.

I think over this past period our results have been slightly better than our performances. However, I think the players have bought into Mourinho's ideas and I think we'll improve with time and new signings. Any fans hoping for Poch-esque 4-0 dominations of teams with complete control throughout and nice passing football are going to have to readjust their expectations - those days are all but over. Though I do think that, with some smart signings, we could play some good, effective counter attacking football and be really bloody hard to beat.

Anyway, we got the result we needed and are actually in Europe, which is pretty amazing all things considered!

 

[ralvy]

The last time we performed like that we won 3-0, but because I was critical of our performance, I was called "Jesus Christ", "A Doom Merchant" "A Clown" and other names. We performed the same way today, so those people who were critical of me, can hands on heart say that result again justified this performance? I do not like it. No composure, no thought process (e.g tackling in a way knowing that you are going to be penalized), bad first touch etc etc etc. We may have finished 6th but undeserved if I am to be truthful as teams like Wolves have played much better than us. I will add (to my detriment), I think Crystal Palace played better than us as they seemed, cohesive, confident and not running around like headless chickens like us. I am prepared to accept the criticism again, but this is honestly how I feel. I really hope there is an improvement next season in our performances.

He hardly got any service, but his goal today kept us finishing 6th this season so Harry MOTM.

I don't agree with you. Against Lester we only conceded possession after grabbing a very comfortable 3 goals cushion, and it made sense doing so against a team who had proved to be dangerous during most of the season. So no, today's performance against Palace wasn't really the same, against them we only did the bare minimum and was a very dangerous and soul crushing display IMO, but it worked out in the end I guess.

 

[Mr Pink]

I agree with you to an extent, but didn't we only have 4 shots on target against Leicester, 3 of which were goals? I'm fairly certain the only save Schmeichel made in the entire match was from Son's shot (which was both a great chance and save). This is understandable as we basically killed the game and shut up shop but we hardly tested the keeper and didn't actually create much at all - we were just incredibly clinical.

I think I fall somewhere between the two camps. I don't think we were as brilliant against Leicester as some are making out, but nor was today's performance as apocalyptic as others are saying. Similarly to AVB, Mourinho is basically playing the percentages. He's limiting the opposition's clear cut chances as much as possible, making us into a really strong, coherent defensive unit and then relying on the talent of our attacking players to make the difference. On a good day we're extremely clinical and can just shut down games, but on a bad day, while we're unlikely to get steamrollered, it makes for tough viewing.

I think over this past period our results have been slightly better than our performances. However, I think the players have bought into Mourinho's ideas and I think we'll improve with time and new signings. Any fans hoping for Poch-esque 4-0 dominations of teams with complete control throughout and nice passing football are going to have to readjust their expectations - those days are all but over. Though I do think that, with some smart signings, we could play some good, effective counter attacking football and be really bloody hard to beat.

Anyway, we got the result we needed and are actually in Europe, which is pretty amazing all things considered!

Yea but we had lots of attacking situations that could/should of led to more goals against Leicester. You don't need to look at the exact stats to come away with that


The two performances were very, very different.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Yea but we had lots of attacking situations that could/should of led to more goals against Leicester. You don't need to look the exact stats to come away with that


The two performances were very, very different.

Precisely. Comparing the two is a bit silly really. V Leicester we were creative, incisive and energetic. We were none of those things v Palace.

 

[DannyNZ]

As soon as Le Celso went off we were almost totally devoid off anyone that could move the ball intelligently. Moura again put in a terrific effort, Kane took his goal exceptionally well and Aurier kept Zaha quiet.

Davies put in another performance where his distribution was appalling. Sissoko and Winks just really poor and Dier had his usual I’ve switched off moment.

A real hard watch and can’t afford to carry this many passengers

 

[Stamford]

Sissokos performance has really annoyed me. Particularly the bit were he pulled up a hamstring injury and then sprinted off a minute later

 

[Havre]

Difficult performance to evaluate. Says a lot when Lucas gets the MOTM and he lost the ball constantly. And I'm not saying I really disagree with Lucas being MOTM - who else?

We are so easy to press when Son isn't able to threaten behind the opposition's defense. Kane will rarely beat you purely for pace (even if he is good at timing his runs). Lucas almost never challenges that space. In midfield Sissoko just hides. That leaves Winks and Lo Celso to try to get something going. Winks isn't that good and Lo Celso can't do it all by himself so the whole thing just looks slow. Son needs to do a better job stretching CP and Sissoko can't just hide because it makes it so much easier to mark Winks and Lo Celso.

I thought Alderweireld, Lo Celso, Kane and Lucas did OK. I didn't think Winks and Aurier were bad. Seems like maybe I disagree on Aurier compared to some others. Not sure if I thought anyone were terrible even if Sissoko is infuriating at times. Just an overall poor team effort.

 

[JimmyG2]

The Good.
Toby,Kane, Moura, Lo Celso
The distinctly average.
All the rest bar Sissoko
who was dreadful.

Jose took the wrong man off again
left the poorly performing on (Son Sissoko for starters)

 

[spids]

By his reaction at the final whistle it was almost as if we’d won next seasons Europa League already...

I found our bench’s celebrations rather distasteful. Given it was only JM and the coaches and not the players suggests it was bonus related rather than any actual footballing glory.

 

[Havre]

I think that was mainly for tactical reasons - believing pace might be needed on the CA. And for all his faults S

I found our bench’s celebrations rather distasteful. Given it was only JM and the coaches and not the players suggests it was bonus related rather than any actual footballing glory.

Seriously?

A joke I'm missing or are you reading that much into it?

My guess that was fairly random. And if it wasn't why does it have to be "coaches" vs. players? Strange dichotomy to me.

I'm not sure how often that group of "coaches" have worked together. Some clearly haven't before. They probably set a target of reaching at least EL - a target they (and the players) of course reached. Would be very odd if they weren't pleased with that - even if obviously the long term targets should be a lot higher than a scrappy draw for 6th.