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Poll: Pritchard or Townsend?

Who would you prefer next season?

  • Pritchard

  • Townsend

  • Keep both, they are not rivals for the same position


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spurs9

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Imperative? There are so many options in the squad we can sell to generate the needed funds, and then some, before we would need to sell Townsend. Even so, if you want to talk about salvaging declining values, it's sheer negligence to declare Townsend the one over his RW colleague. You, or anyone else, may prefer Lamela, but there is no denying from an objectively empirical standpoint that between them it is Lamela's value which is dropping at the more rapid rate.

Townsend should be kept because we a) have an abundance of players more expensive than him that are more expendable than him, b) is a homegrown and club-produced which is looking to become all the more vital with the proposed new rules, and c) he will benefit substantially from Pochettino inevitably experimenting with his squad more. Eventually, Poch will have to try systems that will include affording his attackers more space. It's true that Townsend isn't great at creating his own space in this congested system, but then again none of our wingers/attacking mids are. What Townsend does best is attack space, so if we ever use a formation/system that allows him more space to build momentum and attack with aggression, his presence would be extremely beneficial.
Yeah, we definitely need to sell 3 of Paulinho, Lamela, Dembele,Townsend and Chadli (and probably in that order of preference too) to bring in 2 wide players (and Pritchard returning from loan).
 

mill

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Yeah, we definitely need to sell 3 of Paulinho, Lamela, Dembele,Townsend and Chadli (and probably in that order of preference too) to bring in 2 wide players (and Pritchard returning from loan).

Won't happen in 1 summer though imo, I think closest to that situation would be sign 1 wide player and a backup striker to replace ade or Soldado who can also play wide, ie Rodriguez/martial or similar
 

mill

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I think Townsend has had a dreadful season but this acceptance that Pritchard is better than him is beyond me.
Seen Pritchard quite a lot this season, sometimes he's been very good, couple of times he's been a bit meh but there's no denying he's had a great season in the championship. But let's not forget this is the championship and he's not a kid he's 22 in May. I'm not even a Townsend fan but he's 23 and I do wonder what kind of season he'd have had against championship defences starting every week. He could easily have scored ten goals and we'd be hailing him as better than we have with nothing to base it on.
I find it confusing and creative this idea that Pritchard is not only better than Townsend but will be the answer to our wide area troubles. I hope he is but there's no way I'm judging anything until seen him starting PL games.
Something that also puzzles me is the treatment of an academy player yet at same time allowing another, Mason, patience and time to improve under Pochettino. Townsend has started a total of 21 premier league games for tottenham in his career, Mason has started 22. I've seen both have dreadful games for us, no denying Townsend has had bad season but still the difference in patience given is vast. Townsend has pace, can shoot, decent cross. He needs serious work on positioning and decision making but still are we suggesting let's give up on him, replace with an untried player while at same time suggesting Mason will play key role next season. It makes no sense to me.

I agree with this, from what I've seen Pritchard looks a better player but until he proves it in the pl no one can say for sure he is
 

spurs9

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Won't happen in 1 summer though imo, I think closest to that situation would be sign 1 wide player and a backup striker to replace ade or Soldado who can also play wide, ie Rodriguez/martial or similar
Possibly. How many do you think we could get rid from that list this summer?
 

mill

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Possibly. How many do you think we could get rid from that list this summer?

I really have no idea tbh, so hard to judge, so many variables involved, just seems a lot of business to get done in what seems like an increasingly difficult market, levy can be difficult as well to deal with I'm sure
 

mill

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Not that I'm against you're suggestion by any means
 

arunspurs

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Yes because obviously a 21 year old kid who has done well in the championship is better than Lamela!
Are you really, really sure?


Oh yes. I am very sure.
Ben Mee is the only PL full back Lamela consistently beat over the period of 40 minutes & got his first/only goal too.
Other than that, till date, he takes the ball down the wings, has no clue what to do & every other full back rob him of possession.

I am pretty sure, Pritchard can beat & go past many more players than Lamela has done for 1.5 years.
 

0-Tibsy-0

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Oh yes. I am very sure.
Ben Mee is the only PL full back Lamela consistently beat over the period of 40 minutes & got his first/only goal too.
Other than that, till date, he takes the ball down the wings, has no clue what to do & every other full back rob him of possession.

I am pretty sure, Pritchard can beat & go past many more players than Lamela has done for 1.5 years.

Well I have high hopes for Pritchard but its impossible to say that he is better than Lamela at the moment while he is untried or that he suits our system as well.
Here's hoping though.

Townsend is is definitely definitely not better than or better for our team than Lamela though.
 

arunspurs

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Well I have high hopes for Pritchard but its impossible to say that he is better than Lamela at the moment while he is untried or that he suits our system as well.
Here's hoping though.

Townsend is is definitely definitely not better than or better for our team than Lamela though.


Lamela has been a utter disaster. What gets me is that for a winger he can't beat a full back. Townsend -technically inferior to Lamela but IMO far effective than him when it comes to making a difference. Townsend has lots off games. But when he is on, he does rattle the opposition. With Lamela, I have only seen him giving the ball away.

Pritchard - best player IMO & most pundits opinion of championship; was the best young player in League a year ago.

Every thing suggest to me he is better than Lamela.

Unless Lamela does something good for a stretch of 4 games, can we stop hyping him please.
 

0-Tibsy-0

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Lamela has been a utter disaster. What gets me is that for a winger he can't beat a full back. Townsend -technically inferior to Lamela but IMO far effective than him when it comes to making a difference. Townsend has lots off games. But when he is on, he does rattle the opposition. With Lamela, I have only seen him giving the ball away.

Pritchard - best player IMO & most pundits opinion of championship; was the best young player in League a year ago.

Every thing suggest to me he is better than Lamela.

Unless Lamela does something good for a stretch of 4 games, can we stop hyping him please.

Not going to de-rail this thread-but I certainly did not hype anybody in my comment. Just disputing whether or not we can call a player performing well in the Championship as better than a player in the league above, as we simply don't know yet. I hope he kicks on and proves himself as the best English attacking midfielder around, but a bit early to hype him up yet , he is still only potential when it comes to the Premiership.

And the last few games have shown that Townsend is not the best option for us as a team because his style of play and lack of pressing, work rate and tracking are not conducive to a team performance with this system.
 

beats1

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He scored from the right in both of his other goal-scoring performances.
Though his first goal was him winning the ball in the middle of the pitch and driving at goal going on to his right foot and scoring with his right foot

He has scored more goals with his right foot than his left
 

beats1

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Oh yes. I am very sure.
Ben Mee is the only PL full back Lamela consistently beat over the period of 40 minutes & got his first/only goal too.
Other than that, till date, he takes the ball down the wings, has no clue what to do & every other full back rob him of possession.

I am pretty sure, Pritchard can beat & go past many more players than Lamela has done for 1.5 years.
Technically speaking Ben Mee isn't a fullback but a CB though I disagree about Lamela. I think there is a top player there but funnily enough I think his issue is more Chadli. I think he struggles for space when he plays on the right and Townsend on the left would potentially stretch play for him to find it rather than have chadli, Eriksen and Lamela all wanting to go inside
 

arunspurs

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Technically speaking Ben Mee isn't a fullback but a CB though I disagree about Lamela. I think there is a top player there but funnily enough I think his issue is more Chadli. I think he struggles for space when he plays on the right and Townsend on the left would potentially stretch play for him to find it rather than have chadli, Eriksen and Lamela all wanting to go inside


If there is a top player in Lamela then that player is still missing.
Btw, Lamela's problem is Lamela himself - not Chadli, not Townsend or anyone.
 

arunspurs

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Not going to de-rail this thread-but I certainly did not hype anybody in my comment. Just disputing whether or not we can call a player performing well in the Championship as better than a player in the league above, as we simply don't know yet. I hope he kicks on and proves himself as the best English attacking midfielder around, but a bit early to hype him up yet , he is still only potential when it comes to the Premiership.

And the last few games have shown that Townsend is not the best option for us as a team because his style of play and lack of pressing, work rate and tracking are not conducive to a team performance with this system.



I fear nowadays, we want a winger primarily to track back & sporadically go forward. Thats why Lennon is still a Spurs player. Thats why Lamela is still not in bad books of most - as he seems to run back well.

For a change, I want our wingers to run at opposition defenders & try beating them instead. Chadli is the only one who is doing something in this way - Townsend next & Long last Lamela.

Btw, talking about Lamela is not going to derail the thread in anyway. If this article/thread questions Townsend's spot why the hell we shouldn't question Lamela spot in squad - given both players play in same position. Infact, in recent weeks, Poch himself seems to favor Townsend with starts than Lamela. In that aspect, it is very very relevant.
 

UpTownSpur

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Lamela has been a utter disaster. What gets me is that for a winger he can't beat a full back. Townsend -technically inferior to Lamela but IMO far effective than him when it comes to making a difference. Townsend has lots off games. But when he is on, he does rattle the opposition. With Lamela, I have only seen him giving the ball away.

Pritchard - best player IMO & most pundits opinion of championship; was the best young player in League a year ago.

Every thing suggest to me he is better than Lamela.

Unless Lamela does something good for a stretch of 4 games, can we stop hyping him please.

Townsend showed he can change games on a couple of occasions last night - Lamela can't even shoot like that with his strong foot let alone his weaker one - and the run and cross that almost led to an own goal was excellent too. In short, Townsend can do what a wide player is supposed to do, he just doesn't do it often enough, which is better than not at all like Lamela! Townsend's got the rest of the season to prove he can do it consistently or we may be better of cashing in.

It's increasingly obvious to me that Lamela is finished at Spurs and will be sold in the Summer, which would free up game time for Pritchard, who's a better player than him (Yes he is Lamela fanboys! Get over it already!)
 

DaSpurs

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If there is a top player in Lamela then that player is still missing.
Btw, Lamela's problem is Lamela himself - not Chadli, not Townsend or anyone.

Tbf I do think Lamela has his weaknesses, but Tibsy is right that Lamela could do with more stretch. Chadli stretches nothing out and plays extremely narrow because he can't beat his man wide to get inside. The congested system we play along with inverted wingers which cannot create their own space is just not working. If they can make space for themselves and others, then all three AM's can stand and hold hands in the circle at the top of the 18 for all I care, but for now it's just not working.
 
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