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Player watch: Toby Alderweireld

Hoopspur

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I have seen some of the biggest amounts of shite CH's for Tottenham over the years, but Toby is head and shoulders above most. Whether he is the best or not I couldn't say, however the thing that is so good is how the way the whole defence, including Dier is operating as a unit.

*Just skim read the first 12 pages of this thread again. Gold from some on our esteemed panel of experts. :woot: Note to myself - never offer an opinion on a prospective player again - it may well come back and bite you on the Zaha!
 
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allpaths

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So funny reading the first comments on this thread.
don't think I'll ever live this down, easily the biggest error in my judgement so far, to somewhat justify my opinion my argument at the time was mostly about how highly i rated dier. But no excuses I distinctly remember saying that toby was an average defender and really that's quite laughable.
 
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HildoSpur

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I know it's so obvious it is boring but what an incredible player Toby is - absolutely outstanding last night AGAIN.

99% of games we play Toby is either our best player or one of the best - he is so consistent. He must be one of the best defenders in world football right now.
 

DiscoD1882

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I know it's so obvious it is boring but what an incredible player Toby is - absolutely outstanding last night AGAIN.

99% of games we play Toby is either our best player or one of the best - he is so consistent. He must be one of the best defenders in world football right now.
Was just mulling this over last night. He is bar far our best signing of the last decade. He makes defending look easy. If we don't get this man on a long contract soon thebTottenham Hireachy need shooting. Legend in the making.
 

DIEHARD

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If i were Conte id bid 60m for him in an instant. Im not advocating it though but he is simply the best defender in the league.

His passing too is exquisite. Long raking diagonal poor mans dawson passes haha

He with king ... oh man
 

npearl4spurs

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This thread gets no activity. You know why?

Because what else can you say other than this guy is the best CB in the league and has to be top 10 in the world right now? He can do it all.

He snuffs out any danger from the opposition.
He rarely ever makes a mistake.
His passing is exceptional. His diagonal balls but the defense immediately on the back foot.
He can get forward in the attack and allow others freedom to move in and around the box.
He is one of the biggest threats in the league on corners - his movement at shaking his marker is exceptional and he has great power and accuracy.
He's a fantastic leader with all the intangibles you could ever ask for in a player.

Quite simply - one of the best right now and quickly becoming one of the best to ever put on a Spurs shirt.
 

Freddy Adu

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He's so routinely amazing there's not much to say.

Every morning we should wake up and be thankful for Toby Alderweireld. Worth repeating how good a signing he was, one of our best ever IMO.
 

sly1

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I'd like to know if Atletico Madrid fans are aware of just how good he has been since they sold him.
 

Indacupfortottenham

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Phew just love for him! Was thinking please don't let him be injured - Such an important player for us.
Best right sided centre half I've seen in a spurs shirt.
 

Freddy Adu

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I'd like to know if Atletico Madrid fans are aware of just how good he has been since they sold him.

They definitely don't miss him that's for sure.

But it's worth pointing out that his short time at Atletico probably had a big affect on him as a defender. Simeone is one of the best defensive coaches around and the defenders who play under him always improve massively. Toby definitely had an education there.
 

npearl4spurs

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They definitely don't miss him that's for sure.

But it's worth pointing out that his short time at Atletico probably had a big affect on him as a defender. Simeone is one of the best defensive coaches around and the defenders who play under him always improve massively. Toby definitely had an education there.

Talks about that exact point in this article. It is a very good read.

http://www.espnfc.com/tottenham-hot...nspire-spurs-in-champions-league-alderweireld

MOSCOW, Russia -- Toby Alderweireld still finds it difficult to talk about the 2014 Champions League final. However the defender hopes to use lessons from Atletico Madrid's run to Lisbon to inspire Tottenham in this year's competition.

Atleti's hopes of a remarkable league and cup double were ended by city rivals Real Madrid at the Estadio da Luz, where Diego Simeone's side led 1-0 until the 94th minute, before slipping to a 4-1 defeat after extra-time.

Alderweireld came off the bench in the 83rd-minute, with Atleti ahead through Diego Godin's goal, and the evening remains a tough memory for the 27-year-old.

"Of course it [still] hurts. It was a once-in-a-lifetime chance to win the Champions League," said Alderweireld ahead of Tottenham's second group match at CSKA Moscow on Tuesday.

"But at the end, you look back at the whole season, you don't only look back at the Champions League final. We won the league, we played the Champions League final -- it's something you can be proud of. I've tried to look at it that way and not only the negatives. But of course it hurts to talk about it."

One of the takeaways for Alderweireld is his belief that quality players can beat the odds with an attitude of ruthless single-mindedness, and the Belgian sees that at Tottenham.

"Every team can win the Champions League if you put your mind on it. If you have a good squad and the hunger is there to win something, you can do it," he continued.

"At Atletico, we had the big teams like Barca, Real, Bayern -- they were always the favourites. But at Atletico, if you are a really good group -- and, of course, we had quality, too -- you can win it. That's the thing that's stayed with me. If you are a good team and a good squad and your mind is thinking to win, to win, then you have a chance. That's the thing that I have learned the most.

"Look, we want to do everything to win [in Moscow], to get three points. That's the way we go into every game -- to win. We know that there is a little bit more pressure because we lost the first home game but we have to have confidence in our own game and try to give everything on the pitch.

"Nobody is scared to play in Moscow. And to play our own game. I'm very confident. We have to go through. We have to be confident in our game, confident in our quality and confident that we can get the result against any team. So we don't have to look too far into the future, just look game-by-game and try to go to the next round."

Just as at Atleti, Alderweireld is working under an Argentinian coach who demands his players leave nothing on the pitch, and he is in no doubt that Simeone and Spurs manager Mauricio Pochettino -- former international teammates -- share one defining quality.

"They are different kind of styles but they are both winners. They want to win everything, they want to win every game," he said.

If Spurs are to win in Moscow, Alderweireld will be important. The Belgian scored in the 2-1 defeat to AS Monaco at Wembley a fortnight ago but his quality and experience at the back will matter against CSKA -- particularly with midfield pair Eric Dier and Mousa Dembele missing.

Since moving to England with Southampton in Sept. 2014, four months after Lisbon, Alderweireld has impressed with both his technical quality and uncompromising defending -- a perfect blend he credits to two of his former clubs.

"At Ajax, I got an education in how to play the ball, how to be confident on the ball, your technique, and then of course you go to a big league like Spain and you have to learn to defend -- the details, the ruthlessness. Be clinical in front of your own goal. Win every duel, every battle and be clever. And the small things. That's something I learned so much and defensively, I grew there so much. So I have the two best things -- I learned to play football at Ajax, to be confident on the ball. And then I really learned to defend at Atletico. So that has made me the defender I am today," he explained.

"It's good as well to have the thing from Ajax, to be confident on the ball, especially given how we want to play at Tottenham. We want to play from the back. We have to get the ball and we have to defend, sometimes, 30 or 40 yards back so it's important that you know how to defend and be confident in your own skills.

"At Ajax, it was nice to have the ball, make goals but you have to see the other side, as well. In the end, defenders are there not to concede goals."


Key to his success at Tottenham has been a centre-back partnership with his former Ajax, and current Belgium, teammate Jan Vertonghen. The pair have started 35 of the 44 league matches since Alderweireld signed, helping Tottenham to the best defence in the Premier League last season -- before their anomalous 5-1 defeat at Newcastle on the final day.

Their last appearance in Russia ended in Ajax's 3-0 defeat to Spartak Moscow in the 2010-11 Europa League last 16 -- a match Christian Eriksen also played in.

"We don't need a lot of words on the pitch," Alderweireld said of Vertonghen. "We know how the other one works. We have a little bit of an instinctive understanding.

"It's difficult for me to explain, but in Russia, it's always hostile, especially Champions League games, when other teams from Europe are coming, English teams, as well. We only have to focus on our game on the pitch and the rest is not in our hands."
 
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