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Pringle

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punky, jerry was pointing out that once the goal is scored its irrelevant if the striker scored it or assisted it as the end result is the same.

strikers are there to score and assist and play as part of a team. football has come a long way since defenders simply defend, midfielders assist and strikers score.
 

Dan Marino

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Crouch is pony, the sooner that we get rid of the useless Rodney Trotter looking lanky streak of piss the better.
Pav is not up to it.
The leprechaun was past it a few years ago.
Defoes injury has robbed him of pace and his quick twists and turns in the box that wrongfooted defenders have gone. After the close season, if Defoe is still coming up short in the first few months of next season then that will prove him to be past it.

Our shit strikers cost us big time last season.

And as for Adebyor or Drogba coming in......Does anybody on here actually warm to the prospect? I fucking hope not.
 

Bus-Conductor

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Except that the latter is more unlikely as there are more steps and so more chances for things to go wrong.

Strikers are there to score, not set up midfielders.

Not any more. They are there to do both. Crouch falls a bit short on the scoring side in the league there's no doubt, but like other players of his ilk, he plays more for the team, and the team generally did better with him in it than without him last season.

He played great and scored the the goal that took us into the CL quarters on Feb 15. He then wasn't used again until Stoke in April when he scored two goals in a 3-2 win. We didn't win a game in between.


unfortunately the strikers that do both well are gold dust. Drogba, Rooney, Berbatov, RVP, Torres etc.

We get too hung up on strikers individual tallies. As long as the team is scoring, it doesn't really matter who scores. Crouch is limited for sure, we must upgrade him, but Pav and especially Defoe are too, and they don't give the team much either, especially Defoe.
 

dvdhopeful

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Cannot understand how anyone who watched our CL run and his early season partnership with VDV can be so scathing of Two Metre Peter. The guy isn't top class, but to just blindly brand him as shit is nonsense.
 

scat1620

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Not any more. They are there to do both. Crouch falls a bit short on the scoring side in the league there's no doubt, but like other players of his ilk, he plays more for the team, and the team generally did better with him in it than without him last season.

He played great and scored the the goal that took us into the CL quarters on Feb 15. He then wasn't used again until Stoke in April when he scored two goals in a 3-2 win. We didn't win a game in between.


unfortunately the strikers that do both well are gold dust. Drogba, Rooney, Berbatov, RVP, Torres etc.

We get too hung up on strikers individual tallies. As long as the team is scoring, it doesn't really matter who scores. Crouch is limited for sure, we must upgrade him, but Pav and especially Defoe are too, and they don't give the team much either, especially Defoe.

:hump:
 

Mr Pink

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Not any more. They are there to do both. Crouch falls a bit short on the scoring side in the league there's no doubt, but like other players of his ilk, he plays more for the team, and the team generally did better with him in it than without him last season.

He played great and scored the the goal that took us into the CL quarters on Feb 15. He then wasn't used again until Stoke in April when he scored two goals in a 3-2 win. We didn't win a game in between.


unfortunately the strikers that do both well are gold dust. Drogba, Rooney, Berbatov, RVP, Torres etc.

We get too hung up on strikers individual tallies. As long as the team is scoring, it doesn't really matter who scores. Crouch is limited for sure, we must upgrade him, but Pav and especially Defoe are too, and they don't give the team much either, especially Defoe.

I dont understand why others dont understand that - so true.
 

Bingy

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Crouch is 'long since'; redundant as a striking option? He had his day and is now too 'well known', not only to EPL teams, but also, to Europa Cup teams. Ofcourse he has his uses, from time to time, but less and less these days. We need a quality striker (Defoe and Pav, in one package?) and Crouch can 'return' to Villa of wherever?
I am not going to start offering replacement, because they are numerous, if the price is right! Money talks in the modern football world! COYS!
 

JJetset

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Not any more. They are there to do both. Crouch falls a bit short on the scoring side in the league there's no doubt, but like other players of his ilk, he plays more for the team, and the team generally did better with him in it than without him last season.

He played great and scored the the goal that took us into the CL quarters on Feb 15. He then wasn't used again until Stoke in April when he scored two goals in a 3-2 win. We didn't win a game in between.


unfortunately the strikers that do both well are gold dust. Drogba, Rooney, Berbatov, RVP, Torres etc.

We get too hung up on strikers individual tallies. As long as the team is scoring, it doesn't really matter who scores. Crouch is limited for sure, we must upgrade him, but Pav and especially Defoe are too, and they don't give the team much either, especially Defoe.

Spot on BC :clap:
 

StockSpur

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i think we should keep crouch because he is different and is a good impact sub if used correctly.

pav and keane are playing badly however...

defoe at least got a goal.
 

Spurs_Bear

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Pav scored goals when he was picked. Defoe was injured for half the season and when he returned he never had a run of games, albiet when he did play his contribution was bordering on zero.

Crouch is just shocking, unfortunately there's no other word to describe him. He's without doubt the worst striker I've seen at this club in the 30 years I've watched and I've seen some Shit.

Categorically one of the worst posts of the year. To be so jealous of a man just because he has a fit wife is quite sad.

If you can, read BC's post, we may not agree on much, but it's absolutey on the fucking money regards to Crouch.
 
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Categorically one of the worst posts of the year. To be so jealous of a man just because he has a fit wife is quite sad.

If you can, read BC's post, we may not agree on much, but it's absolutey on the fucking money regards to Crouch.

Where is there any reference to his wife?
Read all my posts regarding Crouch and you will find absolutlely no mention what so ever about his wife.

Please explain why I'm jealous, as I'm fucking baffled by your utter shite.
 

Spurs_Bear

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Where is there any reference to his wife?
Read all my posts regarding Crouch and you will find absolutlely no mention what so ever about his wife.

Please explain why I'm jealous, as I'm fucking baffled by your utter shite.

Because honestly, hand on heart you are saying that Crouch is the 'worst' you have seen in 30 years?

Rory Allen
Rasiak
Andy Booth

I could go on.

Honesty call, are you just a jealous man or do you have no clue?

Honest.
 

Legend10

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Strikers don't always need to be involved to effect the game. Defoe for example effects the game by making teams defend a bit deeper because he's always looking to run in behind the result of this is that our players with more ability like Rafa in particular where he plays and Modric find more time and space in less congested areas. Crouch on the other hand is so slow that it encourages the opposing CB's to squeeze further up the pitch as he is never ever going to run in behind anybody, this causes the play to become condensed and in the main hurts us as our better players find less time and possesion more difficult to control.

Crouch is only effective if you can get decent crosses in from deep positions but because we don't have a threat in behind because Rafa is the second striker it's not easy to create these situations.
 
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Because honestly, hand on heart you are saying that Crouch is the 'worst' you have seen in 30 years?

Rory Allen
Rasiak
Andy Booth

I could go on.

Honesty call, are you just a jealous man or do you have no clue?

Honest.

Why am I jealous. You've still not answered my question.

Rory Allen, Rasiak and Booth were utter shite, but they didn't cost £9m or played the same amount of games as Crouch, so no real comparison.

Not sure how you categorize whether I have a clue as your posts are as substantial as a chocolate fireguard
 

Pringle

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totally agree with BC. People have a hang up on how many goals a striker scores and thinks that is it. Strikers are not ranked on how many they score, just like the best keepers are not the ones who necessarily concede the least - that is a very basic and uniformed opinion imo as there are too many subjective factors.

Dont normally agree with a lot of what BC says but he is spot on here
 

NEVILLEB

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Crouch is a fantastic option off the bench if you want to change the way you play.

He should not be a regular.
 

OneHotspur1988

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With crouch on the pitch we turn into a rich man's stoke, long balls all day. It's no secret that it doesn't work, but we try anyway.
 

BorisTM

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Crouch is a fantastic option off the bench if you want to change the way you play.

He should not be a regular.

No, he is not a fantastic option off the bench. I can't stand how we play when Crouch is on. The players are so used to this long ball fiesta they keep doing it when Defoe plays instead of Crouch, it is sad to see the little man trying to out-jump the tall defenders.
 

stemark44

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totally agree with BC. People have a hang up on how many goals a striker scores and thinks that is it. Strikers are not ranked on how many they score, just like the best keepers are not the ones who necessarily concede the least - that is a very basic and uniformed opinion imo as there are too many subjective factors.

Dont normally agree with a lot of what BC says but he is spot on here

I couldn't care less how many goals he scores ..........he is simply a useless footballer.
 
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