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Oh Teddy Teddy

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I know a lot of you will be disappointed with Ange and understandably so. He isn't a big name, comes from a tinpot league, isn't young (or bald for that matter), his nationality isn't from footballing pedigree, he doesn't look good in high-end knitwear...the list goes on.

But he has been my clear no. 1 pick from the start, he is a shockingly good manager and imo the perfect guy for the job, not least of all because he really does galvanize an entire club with his force of personality.

There are a few others I have seen on here who also seemed to be clued in on him. What I am utterly convinced of is he will transform us into an exciting attacking team very quickly - his teams play scintillating football and at the very least will get everyone enjoying watching the team play again.

yeah but he managed a team with a funny name 15 years ago so :meh:
 

Metalhead

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I'm not for one second saying Mason should get the gig cause I'd opt for Gallardo, Nagelsmann or Amorim over him.

However, the benefits COULD BE huge.

Mason knows what is required at the club, he knows the exact kind of character we need and will want to head in the right direction in terms of playing style.
I think he'd opt for young players who are breaking through and look to mould a team similar to how Poch did but around the brilliance and experience of Kane. Bit like England.

I do think Mason has a bright future BUT he has a long way to go. That would mean we'd have to be very very patient as we'd have some very bad periods but there would be green shoots.

And when I say patient, I mean 2-3 years. It would be very similar to Arteta at Arsenal.

It would be painful and there will be plenty of moments where we'd have to resist firing him. But the upturn could be great and we could get our Tottenham back.
I can certainly see what you are saying. I still feel like I'd like him to get a bit of experience elsewhere rather than us being his 'proving ground' but who knows what the board are thinking.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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With the recent discussion lately, would people prefer Mason over Ange?
Not over Ange but certainly over the likes of Potter, Rodgers, Glasner, Galtier and some of the other uninspiring lower rung names being mentioned.

However we started this new manager search with in theory all of these names who surely we could’ve hired one of if we nailed our colours to the mast so if we do end up with Mason or a lower rung choice that just reflects so badly again on Levy:
•Naglesmann
•Poch
•De Zerbi
•Slot
•Big Ange
•Amorim
•L.Enrique
•Gallardo

Thats 8 very exciting options i whilst I don’t think Mason is a terrible idea, to go from that list to Mason or a lower rung option is such a bad failing and shows that Levy cannot plan and execute and that players and managers are turning him down left right and centre.
 

HildoSpur

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Not over Ange but certainly over the likes of Potter, Rodgers, Glasner, Galtier and some of the other uninspiring lower rung names being mentioned.

However we started this new manager search with in theory all of these names who surely we could’ve hired one of if we nailed our colours to the mast so if we do end up with Mason or a lower rung choice that just reflects so badly again on Levy:
•Naglesmann
•Poch
•De Zerbi
•Slot
•Big Ange
•Amorim
•L.Enrique
•Gallardo

Thats 8 very exciting options i whilst I don’t think Mason is a terrible idea, to go from that list to Mason or a lower rung option is such a bad failing and shows that Levy cannot plan and execute and that players and managers are turning him down left right and centre.
No harm to you but I think this is utterly bonkers.
 

ntmac82

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I see it differently. It's an expensive option for Levy!

Fans will be furious and plenty will not renew season tickets as it shows no ambition.
It has more possibility of going very awry. Which means no European money etc etc.
May be harder to attract players.
Mason will probably want to kick out at least 8 players.

So it won't be cheap and it'll be very risky.

Cheap for Levy is 'safe'.

Bigger name coach, less change around, short-term gain.
I don't disagree to a certain extent but how long is the waiting list for a season ticket? If people don't renew, always someone else that will take the opportunity

In regards to Europe, it clearly can't be that high on the agenda as if it was he wouldn't of made the decisions he has at the end of this season as we still had a very good chance of getting top 4 or 5.

We will have a job attracting players next season anyway as we have no Champions league so will give Levy the chance to try and get some young players with a high ceiling that he can try and make money on.

Which 8 players would he want to kick out that no other manager wouldn't want to ? Whoever comes in will probably want to clear the decks.

It does have the chance to go awry but when has that ever stopped Levy?
 

chas vs dave

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Times up now for patience

every day that goes by with the two jobs vacant exposes utter incompetency. Season over, no excuse
What do you mean times up for patience?

Not really, perhaps wait and see, and not lose your shit before you know what's happening.
 

YiddoInPoland

You got some statistical evidence to back that up?
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If Mason gets the job we are in much more trouble then we think.

I like Mason a lot, a true Spurs man, but this is not the time for him. One day, would love it, just not now.
 

Johnny J

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Mason is far too big a risk IMO. There's no guarantees with anyone, but the next appointment is critical, or we'll genuinely end up as a bottom half club, particularly if Kane leaves.

Look what happened when Conte left, we absolutely fell to pieces. Yes it wasn't great before he left, but we fell off a cliff.
 

ntmac82

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Spot on 👏

Hiring Mason would be very risky and people saying it’s a ‘cheap’ get out option is bs, Levy spent tons of wages on Conte & Jose, hiring Mason would actually be a very brave option not ‘cheap’.
It is a cheap option. How you can try and sugarcoat that as not cheap and brave is beyond me.
 

rossdapep

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I can certainly see what you are saying. I still feel like I'd like him to get a bit of experience elsewhere rather than us being his 'proving ground' but who knows what the board are thinking.
I totally agree.

Ideally we would go for Nagelsmann or Gallardo and Mason goes away to develop his style of play/coaching and irons out some aspects that don't work.
 

Trent Crimm

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It’s not Angie’s fault if we hire him. It’s levy’s

Burning thru a list of some of the best coaches on the planet.pissing them off, making bizarre statements to the press (JN), thinking he’s billy big bollocks and it’s still 2005, making Slot feel so wanted he stayed at his club etc etc etc. Angie is where we now are on the list

Angie could be just what we need or a disaster. As for his age? Who gives a shit by the same model JN’s balls have just dropped.

If we sign him now he will still only be 58 when he leaves.
 

olithfc

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What do you mean times up for patience?

Not really, perhaps wait and see, and not lose your shit before you know what's happening.
I think the wait and see bus has passed. It’s been 60 days?
Now instead of preparing for next season everything is on hold whilst these morons fail to act decisively and chase after their 3rd or 4th choice
 

Karol

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If Kane is on board, just give the job to Ryan Mason and starting working

I have a better idea

Let Mason go off and cut his managerial teeth in the lower leagues

If he is good enough he will be successful and then at some point, years in the future he can come back as Coach

The job is too big for a rookie
 

evoid

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If it’s Ange, then so be it. It’s an underwhelming appointment considering who else has been available and personally think it’s doomed to fail (doubt he lasts the season). However, he seems like a likeable character and will try to implement an attacking brand of football, so I can at least get behind that.

I do think that he (or whoever we bring in) will be starting with one hand tied behind their back, as usual 🙄. Firstly, as has been mentioned previously, the fact the fans know they’re not our first choice (or poch), patience and time will not be afforded and as soon as we hit a bad patch the knives will be out.

Secondly, as we have no European football one mahoosive clear out will need to be done squad-wise. I can see ‘sell to buy’ having a whole new meaning this summer & can see their being little movement in or out of the playing side until very late into the window. I don’t know when the window closes this year but no doubt this will have an impact on our early season results & any toxicity that may have dissipated over the summer will come back tenfold - but at least the football will be a bit more enjoyable 🤷🏼‍♂️.

Good luck to whoever takes the role, as they’ll need it - just hope this and DOF gets sorted ASAP so we can start thinking about transfers!
 
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