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jebratt

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Not saying he is the answer but at what point does Mason come into contention?

As in which options need to be off the table and would people rather Mason than say the likes of :
Potter
Rodgers
T.Frank
Glasner
Galtier
Will Still
S.Conceiao
Etc

I personally would. He has 6 yrs coaching experience he totally 💯 gets exactly what the club and squad need.

Now I’m not saying he should get the job and tbh it would be a huge huge failing on Levy if Mason ended up getting it but what I’m saying is if for some reason we(Levy) is unable to or for some crazy reason can’t get or won’t consider any of : Naglesmann, Poch, Slot, De Zerbi, Amorim, Big Ange, Gallardo, L.Enrique… then at that point surely Mason would start to become a better option than some of the other scraping the barrel names?
I don't think there is anything particularly wrong with Mason and no doubt, he would be more popular with fans and players than some other candidates...The problem I think that most have with Mason is his lack of managerial experience (especially at big clubs) and, judging from most recent comments regarding Levy, he would appear to be another "yes man"... That is, can you see him challenging Levy and would he be a big enough draw when recruiting players?
 

Tucker

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Not saying he is the answer but at what point does Mason come into contention?

As in which options need to be off the table and would people rather Mason than say the likes of :
Potter
Rodgers
T.Frank
Glasner
Galtier
Will Still
S.Conceiao
Etc

I personally would. He has 6 yrs coaching experience he totally 💯 gets exactly what the club and squad need.

Now I’m not saying he should get the job and tbh it would be a huge huge failing on Levy if Mason ended up getting it but what I’m saying is if for some reason we(Levy) is unable to or for some crazy reason can’t get or won’t consider any of : Naglesmann, Poch, Slot, De Zerbi, Amorim, Big Ange, Gallardo, L.Enrique… then at that point surely Mason would start to become a better option than some of the other scraping the barrel names?
I think he’s done ok with a cobbled together side. I was looking at all our injuries earlier. Something like 8 1st team players out.

I’d actually rather him than the likes of Rodgers, Potter, and even Postecoglou.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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I don't think there is anything particularly wrong with Mason and no doubt, he would be more popular with fans and players than some other candidates...The problem I think that most have with Mason is his lack of managerial experience (especially at big clubs) and, judging from most recent comments regarding Levy, he would appear to be another "yes man"... That is, can you see him challenging Levy and would he be a big enough draw when recruiting players?
Good points but I don’t think he’d be a yes man, I think he has a very very clear vision as to what the club and squad needs so recruitment wise he’d have a very good influence imo.

As for big enough draw for new players I don’t know how much to a difference it would make tbh, we have no europe and we hardly signed messi and neymar under Jose and Conte. Location, PL and wages will still attract some half decent players.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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I think he’s done ok with a cobbled together side. I was looking at all our injuries earlier. Something like 8 1st team players out.

I’d actually rather him than the likes of Rodgers, Potter, and even Postecoglou.
Nice one mate glad some others are seeing my perspective on him.

Id rather Postecoglou than Mason but I’d rather Mason than Rodgers or Potter and some lesser linked names.

I don’t buy for one minute that if we hired Mason we’d get relegated, I think with a full pre season and him having a clear vision for how spurs should play and our DNA and attitude required he’d sort out the loan player situation and make a few smart signings and could have a solid season with us.

Again it would be a huge failing if we
End up hiring him given the talent of managers that have been available but it’s starting to look like slim pickings and if so then I think Mason should certainly come into the reckoning at that point.
 

jebratt

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Good points but I don’t think he’d be a yes man, I think he has a very very clear vision as to what the club and squad needs so recruitment wise he’d have a very good influence imo.

As for big enough draw for new players I don’t know how much to a difference it would make tbh, we have no europe and we hardly signed messi and neymar under Jose and Conte. Location, PL and wages will still attract some half decent players.
I see your point but I simply do not see Mason challenging Levy when it comes to signings...That is, I think he would be perfectly fine with Levy buying "bargains" and requesting that they are part of the first-team...Also, while it is true that we did not sign many star players recently, I think having a reputable manager might be particularly useful when attempting to recruit players who are on their way up and are looking for managers who can develop them or help them fulfill some of their career ambitions...
 

fishhhandaricecake

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I see your point but I simply do not see Mason challenging Levy when it comes to signings...That is, I think he would be perfectly fine with Levy buying "bargains" and requesting that they are part of the first-team...Also, while it is true that we did not sign many star players recently, I think having a reputable manager might be particularly useful when attempting to recruit players who are on their way up and are looking for managers who can develop them or help them fulfill some of their career ambitions...
I think he’d have a really good vision for the type of players we should be signing and would challenge where needed.

I don’t think it’s about ‘challenging’ Levy. Conte and Jose probably did that but their vision didnt align with the club so we signed some players who aren’t really a good fit.

You can be if Mason was manager we’d not have signed PEH or Perisic or Richarlison etc and we’d most certainly have signed an Eriksen replacement.

I just think having the correct vision for the team and style of play is paramount for the next manager.
 

jebratt

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Also, I realize that thist is rather unfair to Mason, but how many Premier League teams would even have him on their list of managerial targets? That is, are some fans a tad overly biased and are simply considering Mason because he has been a loyal soldier to the club over the years and someone who we would all like to succeed?
 

zicomerc

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What if Rodgers still has a good relationship with Maddison and Barnes and brings them both to Spurs?

I'm not a fan but the above might help stabalise the club alongside a good GK and CB.
 

jebratt

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I think he’d have a really good vision for the type of players we should be signing and would challenge where needed.

I don’t think it’s about ‘challenging’ Levy. Conte and Jose probably did that but their vision didnt align with the club so we signed some players who aren’t really a good fit.

You can be if Mason was manager we’d not have signed PEH or Perisic or Richarlison etc and we’d most certainly have signed an Eriksen replacement.

I just think having the correct vision for the team and style of play is paramount for the next manager.
We can agree with having a clear vision but I think Levy does need to be challenged when it comes to player recruitment because I am not sure he has the knowledge (or competence) of building a cohesive team...
 

Yiddo100

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We can agree with having a clear vision but I think Levy does need to be challenged when it comes to player recruitment because I am not sure he has the knowledge (or competence) of building a cohesive team...
That’s why we’re getting a DOF (hopefully)
 

robotsonic

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What if Rodgers still has a good relationship with Maddison and Barnes and brings them both to Spurs?

I'm not a fan but the above might help stabalise the club alongside a good GK and CB.
After a few years working with the bloke I'd be amazed if they still like him. The opposite is as likely.
 

jebratt

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What if Rodgers still has a good relationship with Maddison and Barnes and brings them both to Spurs?

I'm not a fan but the above might help stabalise the club alongside a good GK and CB.
Nope... I feel he is such a bad fit that I would not care who he brought with him... He seems rather arrogant and tends to have a short shelf life...
 

KingNick

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I like you’ve brought up Carrick. He should definitely be considered before anyone even starts thinking about Mason. As should Kieran McKenna.
To be clear, they’d all be way down the list still behind most other names linked but I think they offer all the same things as Mason but with the advantage of meaningful management experience.
 

jebratt

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That’s why we’re getting a DOF (hopefully)
Hopefully one that is not only competent in scouting and recruiting talent but also willing to standup to Levy when the two do not see eye-to-eye... I am not suggesting we need someone who is confrontational, but I think Levy is too controlling and it appears that he trusted Paratici because he respected his talents and experience...
 

ntmac82

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I think he’s done ok with a cobbled together side. I was looking at all our injuries earlier. Something like 8 1st team players out.

I’d actually rather him than the likes of Rodgers, Potter, and even Postecoglou.
Mason should be nowhere near the conversation for being the permanent manager. It's a cheap option for Levy.
 
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