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PaulM

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Arteta? Potter?
Arteta was the highest spending manager in world football last summer and spent a fair chunk of change since then.

You could make the case for Potter at Brighton but they were nowhere near our level. He's had 600m+ spent at Chelsea since he's been there. We can bring in any "project manager" we want - it makes no difference unless he has a bucketload to spend.

Poch was the closest anyone came to being a "project manager".
 

Danfunkel

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Tbh the squad shouldn’t dictate our hire. The club should decide on the philosophy the want to instill after serious deliberation and then start to build the club with the new philosophy as a base. If Enrique fits that, then go for it and shape the squad over a long period, sticking to the plan through whatever adversity is encountered until everything fits harmoniously. Then when Enrique leaves, we have the base and just hire someone very similar to Enrique and get new players similar to the ones who were there with Enrique. Replace Enrique with any manager and my overall point still holds true. Philosophy, ethos, culture over everything. I think these past 4 or so years of hiring guys to get the best out of the squad is a huge reason for why we are where we are. Hire Conte or Jose, fine. But then the philosophy of the club has to fit, and it doesn’t. If we were Chelsea, then those two would have been successful I’m sure. We aren’t Chelsea nor do I desire to be Chelsea, but the point is the club currently has zero idea of what it wants to be. The first step is deciding that, then you make decisions that fall in line and everything becomes a whole lot clearer. That’s why the first step absolutely HAS to be getting the identity and long term plan, NOT the next guy in charge.
Well said. This is why it’s so important to keep the DOF model going forward. He should be the one dictating the style and playing staff we have, and the head coach does exactly that..coaches the players on that remit.

When coach A leaves, coach B comes in to replace and carries on the work. It’s cookie cutter football.

Consistency, a philosophy and a proper plan will win you trophies. Currently, we have none of that.
 

beats1

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Enrique would be madness. Totally unsuited to our players. When we speak about going for the total opposite of what we had before then surely this is it. A guy routed in a style of play .
Based on what?
Gill/Son ———— Kane ———— Kulusevski
CM —— Bentacur
Bissouma
Reguillon — LCB — Romero — Porro
GK​
CM - I think he would go for skipp, as he is the most used to that style of play
 

Timberwolf

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There's no such thing at the level we're at and aspiring to. It's an absolute myth of a concept.
I think there's some truth to the concept, even if it gets blown out of proportion.

Some managers like Conte have a track record for being at clubs for short periods of time and getting instant success, while others build a project over years and years.

Compare the careers of Conte vs Klopp for instance. One comes in, wins instantly (well..not at Spurs) then fucks off. The other builds gradually to a crescendo over a long time. Someone like ETH at Man United strikes me as more of a project manager who could be at the club for 7-8 years, whereas a Tuchel will implode and be gone within 2.
 

Albertbarich

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Based on what?
Gill/Son ———— Kane ———— Kulusevski
CM —— Bentacur
Bissouma
Reguillon — LCB — Romero — Porro
GK​
CM - I think he would go for skipp, as he is the most used to that style of play
Hmm that's actually pretty fair.

Maybe sell Holjberg, use that money for a top centre back, bring back Winks as back up for Bissouma, lo Celso and N'dombele could do a job too.

I was wrong maybe.
 

Styopa

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Tbh the squad shouldn’t dictate our hire. The club should decide on the philosophy the want to instill after serious deliberation and then start to build the club with the new philosophy as a base. If Enrique fits that, then go for it and shape the squad over a long period, sticking to the plan through whatever adversity is encountered until everything fits harmoniously. Then when Enrique leaves, we have the base and just hire someone very similar to Enrique and get new players similar to the ones who were there with Enrique. Replace Enrique with any manager and my overall point still holds true. Philosophy, ethos, culture over everything. I think these past 4 or so years of hiring guys to get the best out of the squad is a huge reason for why we are where we are. Hire Conte or Jose, fine. But then the philosophy of the club has to fit, and it doesn’t. If we were Chelsea, then those two would have been successful I’m sure. We aren’t Chelsea nor do I desire to be Chelsea, but the point is the club currently has zero idea of what it wants to be. The first step is deciding that, then you make decisions that fall in line and everything becomes a whole lot clearer. That’s why the first step absolutely HAS to be getting the identity and long term plan, NOT the next guy in charge.

I agree with all of this. However, I have no faith that the club will see this kind of thing through. They have a history of doing precisely the opposite.

There's also a huge question over whether our DoF, allegedly pushing for Enrique, will even be here next season.

For these reasons, I would be more in favour of hiring a coach who does not need to make wholesale changes to squad personnel to implement his system.
 

diamond lights

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Anyone think the club might be letting it out there about this shortlist and Poch not being favoured. Then when he's appointed they can say it was after a thorough examination of the options blah blah. Looks better than just shipping in your ex in a panic.
 

shelfstandspur

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We need a manager who breeds optimism and positive energy. As Spurs fans we are hard to drain of our optimism, even if it is quite often blind. For most of us right now we are drained, another season looks to have been wasted and Arsenal being the cherry to top it all off.

The managers since Poch have all promised much but ultimately delivered very little (success or decent football); even Conte. Yes, Poch ultimately didn't win anything but he delivered a team that played good football, he developed players, he became one of us (for better or worse).

So, yes I would love to see him back, or a manager with the same drive and heart for the challenge. Someone who will look at the squad for the good players it does have, reinvigorate the players who appear to have done badly under Conte (Son, Bissouma?), give a chance to the young players to shine, perhaps even bring one of the 'misfits' in from the cold.

A reason I would like this to be Poch is that he knows Levy (who we are likely stuck with) and can now tell him he is only coming back with a budget to spend and that certain players go asap. For me we need a partner for Romero, Lloris' replacement and a creative midfielder. Plus he is the fullback whisperer and we have plenty of them including Spence & Udogie; there is talent there.

What do I know? I will still be here with the rest of you supporting the team next season; optimistic that the new manager will be the one.
 

haslemereyid

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No point in appointing an elite manager because our chairman doesn’t have an elite wallet. Let’s go for a coach who can improve young players into elite players. Suits Levy suits the coach suits the fans - go backwards a bit to hopefully go forward a lot - i am sure no one would agree but i would go for Cooper - great coaching CV
 
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