Next Manager Watch

[Ghost Hardware]

Well, I was told Levy tried really hard for Poch before we appointed Nuno. I shared this at the time. PSG wouldn’t budge as they couldn’t get a replacement despite not being keen on him himself.

I imagine Levy hasn’t changed his mind since, and now Poch and his team are free of charge. No compo.

The stumbling block now would probably be having a DoF as Poch doesn’t like working with them and if QSI were investing because of their history. But as it seems Paratici is likely leaving and QSI are very likely not investing then that does seem to very much open the door to him.

Personally I’d like us to replace Paratici first before getting in a new manager (assuming Paratici is a dead man walking).

 

[Albertbarich]

The stumbling block now would probably be having a DoF as Poch doesn’t like working with them and if QSI were investing because of their history. But as it seems Paratici is likely leaving and QSI are very likely not investing then that does seem to very much open the door to him.

Personally I’d like us to replace Paratici first before getting in a new manager (assuming Paratici is a dead man walking).

We need a DOF, one who is here long-term and one who is in complete control of footballing matters .

Going from manager to manager, buying different sorts of players for different sorts of systems is NOT the way to go and it's been a disaster.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

None of us know who turned down who…. I’m just going on what is more probable…. And it‘s not very probable that a club like Spurs turns down Ten Hag but rather probable that a manager like Ten Hag turns down Spurs. It’s even more probable when the club eventually appoint Nuno.

All the info at the time, including also ITK, was that Levy wasn’t convinced by him. I remember some saying concerns over his manner but who knows if that’s the reason. We definitely strung him along tho as I think it did come to a point were he was no longer interested because of this. There was pretty unanimous reports tho that we could have got him if we wanted him.

 

[Stuart Leathercock]

All the info at the time, including also ITK, was that Levy wasn’t convinced by him. I remember some saying concerns over his manner but who knows if that’s the reason. We definitely strung him along tho as I think it did come to a point were he was no longer interested because of this. There was pretty unanimous reports tho that we could have got him if we wanted him.

Better for the club to indicate that they didn't fancy a manager as opposed to it getting out that it happened to be the other way round.

 

[ralphs bald spot]

I would say we really need an overhaul through the football side of the club top to bottom - for us to move on we need to present ourselves as a football club that has a method and playing style that encourages young talent and that there is a clear pathway for that talent to progress - mixed with the purchases of a few established players and an occasional top player you have a chance to cement that identity - who the manager is for that I would suggest someone young but even the management we should be looking to develop our own coaches

 

[PLTuck]

Anyone that isn't anti possession, anti flair, anti creativity, and anti passing tbh. Even Deki seems to have had the fun sucked out of him. Son is a shadow of the player of previous seasons and looks like he has the weight of the world on his shoulders.

I'd take the more defensively chaotic but infnitely more enjoyable Redknapp style over this boring shite game after game. Win or lose its just joyless football by numbers. Ideally it'd be someone like Poch (although not necessarily Poch himself) who will have a defensive system but then allow the forwards and midfield to actually play a bit when in possession.

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

I don't know who it would be but I just want a manager who actively encourages our players to pass the ball.

Should that really be such a high bar to reach?

Honest question, other than Bentancur, Kane, Kulu, Sarr and Skipp to an extent, who in our squad has the actual ability to pass the ball? And not only that but to play balls on the first touch?

I ask this because other than those I mentioned above, our team is filled with players who simply can’t pass the ball other than to the side or backwards. This isn’t a matter of coaching to me, it’s a matter of technical ability.

I would hope that if we do go down that route again, and I really hope we do, that we have a plan to add more players with that ability to actually pass the ball and more importantly control it quickly.

 

[Timberwolf]

The stumbling block now would probably be having a DoF as Poch doesn’t like working with them and if QSI were investing because of their history. But as it seems Paratici is likely leaving and QSI are very likely not investing then that does seem to very much open the door to him.

Personally I’d like us to replace Paratici first before getting in a new manager (assuming Paratici is a dead man walking).

Yeah IMO we should target a DoF who can prioritise playing progressive, attacking football but can also utilise and develop the scouting and recruitment infrastructure Paratici has put into place. We should then commit to this project for the long term and do what we can do hire managers that fit our model rather than jumping all over the place every 18 months.

While Paratici is one of the best things to happen to this club in years in a recruitment sense, it's clear his vision of football is that of an Italian pragmatist, hence he immediately vetoed Fonseca - a very attacking manager - in favour of turds like Gattusso and Nuno (classic Levy - promises attacking football then hires an arch pragmatist as DoF). If Paratici stays and has a big say in our next manager I highly doubt we'll suddenly pivot back to a possession based, attacking style and are more likely to target another pragmatist.

While we clearly haven't exactly prioritised signing technical players, I think the likes of Porro, Sarr Bentancur, Bissouma, Kulu and Romero would all be well suited to a transition to a more progressive style and hopefully Udogie would too. Main issue is the fact we've signed 3 specialist wingbacks for quite a lot of money so ideally need to find a manager who can make good use of them...

 

[talkshowhost86]

Honest question, other than Bentancur, Kane, Kulu, Sarr and Skipp to an extent, who in our squad has the actual ability to pass the ball? And not only that but to play balls on the first touch?

I ask this because other than those I mentioned above, our team is filled with players who simply can’t pass the ball other than to the side or backwards. This isn’t a matter of coaching to me, it’s a matter of technical ability.

I would hope that if we do go down that route again, and I really hope we do, that we have a plan to add more players with that ability to actually pass the ball and more importantly control it quickly.

Yes we'd need to get the right players to do this, but from me it didn't really look like Conte was ever interested in that.

That formation doesn't really require ball-playing midfielders (or at least when it's working it doesn't) so it's obviously not been a concern of his.

But yes if we want a team that can pass we definitely need players that can pass.

 

[Oh Teddy Teddy]

Fit the bill: Gasperini, Nagelsmann*, Frank, Schmidt, Gallardo, Enrique (he doesn't have to be the possession guy - his Barca weren't iirc).
Good managers but not right/caveats: Potter, Tuchel, Rodgers, Glasner, Amorim, Simeone, Silva, Bielsa.
Wild card suggestions: Carlos Corberan, Fernando Diniz, Paulo Fonseca.

I might be in the minority, but if fans are interested in a more progressive, fast-flowing brand of attacking football, I'm not sure Frank is the answer? From what I've seen, Brentford are very effective but rely on slick attacking transitions and making the most of set-pieces. Sound familiar?

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

Yes we'd need to get the right players to do this, but from me it didn't really look like Conte was ever interested in that.

That formation doesn't really require ball-playing midfielders (or at least when it's working it doesn't) so it's obviously not been a concern of his.

But yes if we want a team that can pass we definitely need players that can pass.

100% agreed, just to let you know I didn’t ask because of anything to do with Conte or how things are under him, I’m thinking ahead to the next manager who may want to implement a system that we all enjoy but it falls flat on its face without the right personnel, just like Conte’s has.

 

[glacierSpurs]

Honest question, other than Bentancur, Kane, Kulu, Sarr and Skipp to an extent, who in our squad has the actual ability to pass the ball? And not only that but to play balls on the first touch?

I ask this because other than those I mentioned above, our team is filled with players who simply can’t pass the ball other than to the side or backwards. This isn’t a matter of coaching to me, it’s a matter of technical ability.

I would hope that if we do go down that route again, and I really hope we do, that we have a plan to add more players with that ability to actually pass the ball and more importantly control it quickly.

I don't doubt their passing abilities. I just feel they are too afraid to make mistakes. So majority of the players are just taking the safest routes of side and back passes.

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

I don't doubt their passing abilities. I just feel they are too afraid to make mistakes. So majority of the players are just taking the safest routes of side and back passes.

There may be a hint of apprehension there, but I still don’t believe they have the ability.

None of the other players I left out would make it into a Pep or Arteta team where passing and moving is essential.

 

[Timberwolf]

I don't doubt their passing abilities. I just feel they are too afraid to make mistakes. So majority of the players are just taking the safest routes of side and back passes.

Yup - also they're clearly ordered not to do anything outside of Conte's specific game-plan and stick to his automations as much as possible.

Sarr took a shot from about 25 yards last night in a moment of frustration and it looked to me like he immediately apologised to an angry Conte. The man wants to micro-manage everything the players do hence they rarely improvise, especially in their passing.

While we're not exactly blessed with incredible passers throughout the squad, I think they're certainly capable of more one-touch and technical play than we're currently witnessing.

 

[talkshowhost86]

I see Nicola Sturgeon is now available.

Could she be any worse?

 

[Norgie]

Yup - also they're clearly ordered not to do anything outside of Conte's specific game-plan and stick to his automations as much as possible.

Sarr took a shot from about 25 yards last night in a moment of frustration and it looked to me like he immediately apologised to an angry Conte. The man wants to micro-manage everything the players do hence they rarely improvise, especially in their passing.

While we're not exactly blessed with incredible passers throughout the squad, I think they're certainly capable of more one-touch and technical play than we're currently witnessing.

Yep almost the only excitement of the second half, I was willing him to shoot.

It looks like the players are bored of the over drilled movements to me, if its true he trains most moves then I would be too, robot football.

I am still unsure if I want him to go, as much as the football is boring I just don't want to get back in to the merry go round of another manager again. If he has intimated he is going in the summer though then he needs to go now.

 

[ralphs bald spot]

There may be a hint of apprehension there, but I still don’t believe they have the ability.

None of the other players I left out would make it into a Pep or Arteta team where passing and moving is essential.

i would say that in any decent football team that passing and movement are pre-requisites - the problem we have is that there very little confidence in the side and a number of players suddenly hide its easier not to make a run then you don't make a mistake - its easier to pass 5 yards sideways or backwards then lose procession with a progressive pass suddenly everyone looks at everyone else for the answers instead of doing their job I think its clouded by some being not sure of what is expected of them - you learn a lot about players at times like these

 

[Stuart Leathercock]

Yup - also they're clearly ordered not to do anything outside of Conte's specific game-plan and stick to his automations as much as possible.

Sarr took a shot from about 25 yards last night in a moment of frustration and it looked to me like he immediately apologised to an angry Conte. The man wants to micro-manage everything the players do hence they rarely improvise, especially in their passing.

While we're not exactly blessed with incredible passers throughout the squad, I think they're certainly capable of more one-touch and technical play than we're currently witnessing.

I think he was apologising to Richarlison (who was much better placed and should've been passed to instead of an incredibly low percentage shot being taken).

 

[JCRD]

I don't know who it would be but I just want a manager who actively encourages our players to pass the ball.

Should that really be such a high bar to reach?

I want a manager who when I listen to him I get a sense of connection and someone who wants to be here and someone who when talking inspires, encourages and leads. I was always against this whole coming out and telling how our players arent good enough - even if you think that, deal with it indoors with Levy et al, not out there in the public.

 

[ReadieSpur]

I don't really mind who it is, as long as they play nice football,

.....were born in Argentina, are approx. 1.82m tall, brown hair and like a black shirt/tie combo.

oh.. and they need to be Magic, you know.