Next Manager Watch

[CerfBlanc]

Give it to Tuchel! He is the best chance we have of getting top 4 this season. I know some people think top 4 is nonsense and I get that but playing in CL next season massively improve our chances of Kane staying.

 

[Oh Teddy Teddy]

Well for a start;

Gallardo has been quite dominant in South America and is seen as a outlier and inspiration for budding coaches in that region..
South American football is a big step up from Asian football - winning the Copa Libertadores is special.

Amorim has come up against the best coaches in Europe and faired very well.

Celtic haven't done well in Europe.

That gives you some level of how good a coach can be.

No one is denying that, but by extension, it's already been well-shared on here that Postecoglou has admirers at the likes of City. Just don't see why we'd turn our noses up at him as a prospective choice.

The club is going to have to get a little imaginative, and not sure it should be limited to 'done well at chelsea once upon a time'

 

[iddebu52]

There was a table posted very recently of how much each manager we've had was financially backed and number of players bought. Could somebody redirect me to this please?

 

[nferno]

I’d be lying if I said I wouldn’t be happy with Tuchel. Take the ex chelsea manager thing out and I think the majority of people would be pleased with him too. So tactically astute and flexible, and it helps that perhaps he might be able to convince Kane to stay if given the rest of this season and the next to get us competing - compared to, say Gallardo or RDZ with a more longterm project. It would absolutely be the last roll of the dice though, because the warning signs are there for Levy that his appointment could easily go south very quickly too.

TLDR: Think Tuchel is high risk high reward. Don’t think any of the other options give us the same range in fortunes between potential upside (keeping Kane and competing again very soon) vs. catastrophic downside (Conte, Mourinho repeat).

 

[CerfBlanc]

I highly doubt Tuchel agrees to come for a number of factors

According to Matt Law a couple of months back he was open to it...

 

[GetSpurredOn]

I’m not as against Tuchel as some others on here. I saw how he got a strong turnaround when he first went to Chelsea. Played 3421 but it was very fluid, they really moved well with the ball and the movement off the ball was pretty sharp, none of the turgid stuff we have to watch week on week.
What reservation I do have though, is I do feel it’s a bit going round the same cycle again through, a known entity to have a bash at solving the puzzle. Possibly a better fit than Jose and Conte, but still it does feel very familiar, another one of the usual suspects. Enrique feels a bit similar, big name, plenty of experience. I’m not specifically against either option, but I don’t quite feel engaged in them either.
I’ve watched the Gallardo you tube videos, around how he revolutionised River Plate, and his ability to live with losing his star players and get on with what he had, bring in another player with potential to seamlessly fill the gap. Then I read the comments yesterday about Amorim from @rossdapep, really insightful post. That got me thinking that’s the sort of manager we need, someone who can take what we have, weed out those not quite right, and make the most of what is around in, develop talents. Buying players ready made is great, but there is something more refreshing about promoting a young player from within, doing it from the ground up. That’s what I want to see, someone who will make the most of players who at some point have been billed as next big things, like Parrott, Scarlett, Donley, Devine etc. show the best young talents that Tottenham is a place to come and flourish, with a manager that will help develop you and give a clear pathway, be that regular minutes as a developing fringe player, or a well managed loan to boost exposure in a block and come back ready to stake a claim for a first team berth. Stop players coming in and their careers stalking at U21 level. Make sure these guys are given every opportunity to be the next Kane or Skipp, rather than Onomah, Edwards or Madueke (differing outcomes for those currently, but my point being they had to leave). A Gallardo or Amorim seems a better fit for this than Tuchel or Enrique.
Maybe that leads to us losing players like Kane and Son, which would be tough to see, but if it got us a fresher squad of young hungry players with huge potential, playing progressive football that other clubs envied (once embedded properly), that 12-24 month back step would be worth it if it provided us with a more sustainable process, get our academy/development system providing players so we don’t have to rely on Levy stumping up every windows, knowing it’ll be difficult to deal with clubs in a timely fashion. I know City are built on some big signings, Dias, Grealish, Haaland etc, but equally I like that they have players like Foden as integral parts of the team, and are placing faith in a player like Rico Lewis to get regular minutes.

 

[Guntz]

I highly doubt Tuchel agrees to come for a number of factors

£15m a year with no silverware expectations, living lavishly in London, and a nice payoff when it goes tits up.

Seems like a good gig to me?

 

[JCRD]

According to Matt Law a couple of months back he was open to it...

These managers have egos - they all want to upstage each other. I think Tuchel is like - haha Conte the fucker couldnt win anything, ill show him.

 

[night-watchman]

Well for a start;

Gallardo has been quite dominant in South America and is seen as a outlier and inspiration for budding coaches in that region..
South American football is a big step up from Asian football - winning the Copa Libertadores is special.

Amorim has come up against the best coaches in Europe and faired very well.

Celtic haven't done well in Europe.

That gives you some level of how good a coach can be.

For the record I am huge fans of Both Amorim and Gallardo. I have not once said I think Ange is a better manager than either of them or that I dont rate Amorim and Gallardo.

Having said this - River Plate is one of the biggest clubs in South America and Benfica as a club has far greater resources than Celtic (even if they do play in a non top-4 league). I think it is a little unfair to compare Celtic in Europe to River Plate in the Libertadores.

But in case I wasnt clear I would love either Gallardo or Amorim. I think its just a little unfair to dismiss Postecoglou as imo he is a simply brilliant Manager that I think we will highly regret not going after when we had the chance (like now).

 

[funkycoldmedina]

Keep seeing Ange name popping up, the Celtic boss.
My parents are Greek and I would love a Greek manager.

But back in the room....

On what basis do we employ him?
He's work down under or he's work north of the border?

Really???

Fkinel fellas, please raise the bar ffs.
He has done nothing to be in the frame...imo.

Like we wouldn't have taken De Zerbi before his spell at Brighton? Celtic were really competitive in their Champions League group. They didn't park the bus, they went after teams and generally just lacked a bit of quality

 

[only1waddle]

I wonder if there’s conflict between Paratici’s preferred choice in Enrique and perhaps Levy’s in Tuchel?

I also wonder if once again, Levy looks at Tuchel as not only a short cut to winning trophies but also to appease Kane who quite clearly wants to win silverware not way off in the future, but next season.

Agree, Kane leaving on the back of all this current mess would see it get a bit toxic toward Levy, I think he'd try to appease Kane.

 

[only1waddle]

Tuchel and Levy has disaster written all over it. Just bound to implode after two or three transfer windows.

Or they become lovers....

 

[chippospur]

I have just seen a fb post with a pic of the Graham Taylor statue. One of the inscriptions says, Football is a simple game, it's a game for the man on the terraces: It's a game to excite people. Words hopefully the new man & Levy would take note of.

 

[tony0379]

I have just seen a fb post with a pic of the Graham Taylor statue. One of the inscriptions says, Football is a simple game, it's a game for the man on the terraces: It's a game to excite people. Words hopefully the new man & Levy would take note of.

Only problem is. Levy is a bigger turnip than Taylor ever was

 

[felmani26]

Agree, Kane leaving on the back of all this current mess would see it get a bit toxic toward Levy, I think he'd try to appease Kane.

Poch and Tuchel have always been the easy plays for Levy/the board;

- Poch to appease majority of the fanbase and seemingly a proportion of the existing squad
- Tuchel so he can state he's the best candidate to win us silverware based on recent record and by extension, appease Kane's thirst for trophies.

If Poch is now courted by Madrid then it leaves Tuchel - I can see this happening unfortunately.

 

[Guntz]

New DOF thread too?

 

[A Bit Much]

Or they become lovers....

We need a mural of levy and tuchel necking on for his first home game.

 

[ernie78]

My issue is if I’m a manager that’s approached for the job and I’ve seen Jose and Conte come in and not get the players they’ve wanted, then turn on the players and club, why the hell would I think it would be any different for me??

 

[ernie78]

Tuchel and Levy has disaster written all over it. Just bound to implode after two or three transfer windows.

So the same as the last couple of managers then

 

[GMI]

These managers have egos - they all want to upstage each other. I think Tuchel is like - haha Conte the fucker couldnt win anything, ill show him.

Come on down Pep…