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rossdapep

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Nah. I've never understood this idea that Levy "isn't a football man" and "doesn't get it".

The guy knows more about Tottenham Hotspur and football than everyone on this forum put together. He has part-owned a football club for 20 years. He knows it top from bottom. He's there every day. He has signed and sold over a hundred players. He knows and is known by everyone in football. He practically runs the Premier League. He is executive chairman of the European Club Association.

He has hundreds of millions of pounds invested in the club - if you're hurt when we lose, imagine how you'd feel if you were him watching the club you support go down the pan and have a fortune riding on!

If you think you know more about football than him, you're deluding yourself. In fact, it's just utterly laughable to think that you do. You are a fan, I am a fan. We are not in the game in the same way as he is, managers are and players are.

The problem isn't that he "isn't a football man" or "doesn't get it". The problem is that he hasn't been making the right choices and, certainly recently, hasn't been good at the football side of his job.

We need Levy to get a new DoF in who isn't a criminal and is better and who can take the whole lot off him.
Imagine if Levy went on a sole scouting mission.

Would you trust him to make a good assessment of the players?
 

robertgoulet

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How does this work with our Board? I assume DL holds the power to veto if he doesn't want a candidate, but if he likes someone does it require majority approval? Unanimous approval? It is ridiculous that they can't come to an approvable consensus (unless they require unanimous approval which is stupid).
 

bbunc

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Has he at any stage played 3 at the back successfully?

I feel that if we switch to a manager who solely plays 4 at the back when we have almost 150m in wingbacks could be a complete disaster
More important to get the overall long term setup right than try to shoehorn every decision into a certain formation or players that don’t work.

If it means we have to shift or repurpose some guys so be it. At least Porro and Udogie seem to be reasonably talented technical players that probably have some optionality in how they are used.
 

Neon_Knight_

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Has he at any stage played 3 at the back successfully?

I feel that if we switch to a manager who solely plays 4 at the back when we have almost 150m in wingbacks could be a complete disaster
Who are the "almost £150m" of wing-backs? I'm unsure whether you're referring to what we've spent on wing-backs or what they're currently worth, but I think you're way off either way.

Wing-backs:
Perisic - free transfer / negligible transfer value
Porro - approx. £40m paid / £30m value (we knowingly paid a premium to sign him in January)
Udogie - approx. £18m paid (£15m + add-ons) / value must be similar now
Spence - approx. £15m paid / value more likely to have gone down than up
Sessegnon - approx. £25m paid / £20m value
Total - approx. £98m paid / £85m value

Fullbacks:
Emerson - approx. £22m paid / approx. £25m value
Davies - approx. £10m paid / £20m value
Reguilon - approx. £20m paid / £15m value
Total - approx. £52m paid / £60m value

The financial difference is in the ball-park of £25m, which is pretty minimal. Any one player we sign for our starting XI next season is likely to cost more than that, so choosing a manager on this basis would be no more logical than choosing a manager who wants to use a CM pivot without a CDM or CAM (we don;t have either of those in the squad atm).

I think it's clear that Perisic (declining) and Sessegnon (has spent 4 years failing to lived up to the hype) are not players we should be building our squad around. Once you take them out of the equation, we can only play with wing-backs if by either signing more of them or playing fullbacks (Emerson & Davies) out of position...which fans have been moaning about for the last 1.5 years.
If we were to bring in a manager who wants to play with a back four, I'm not entirely convinced we need to sign any others. Reguilon might get another chance and, although Udogie and Spence may have primarily played as wing-backs recently, they have both also played a lot of games at fullback. I would want to see far more than I have of them (couple of games + highlight reels) before pigeonholing them as attacking wing-backs who would have no future with us if we revert to a back four. Realistically, we'd sign one fullback and sell three of our existing wing-backs / fullbacks, to leave us with a total of six instead of our current eight (i.e. we'd actually be freeing up transfer funds for other areas of the pitch).
 

Chris Flynn

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Probably we should sell Kane to see our real level.
Agreed. In fact every team should sell their best player, see everyones real level. Then the new best player has to go, sort the men from the boys, then the third, now best, player, get down to brass tacs......
 

SpursForever71

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Would we have played those games with 10 men if Kane wasn’t there?
of course not, but he isnt going to be easy to replace is he? Even if we sold him in the summer for around the £100M mark, all that wont go to buying a replacement for him, just like the money we got from selling Bale
 

KingNick

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of course not, but he isnt going to be easy to replace is he? Even if we sold him in the summer for around the £100M mark, all that wont go to buying a replacement for him, just like the money we got from selling Bale
It was more a comment against the stupid suggestion that you can say where we would be in the league without him just by taking out his goals. It’s funny how whenever someone makes this point, they never consider that someone else might have scored goals in the same games and might even have scored more goals than HK did in the games we lost or drew and therefore helped us to more points
 

SpursForever71

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It was more a comment against the stupid suggestion that you can say where we would be in the league without him just by taking out his goals. It’s funny how whenever someone makes this point, they never consider that someone else might have scored goals in the same games and might even have scored more goals than HK did in the games we lost or drew and therefore helped us to more points
but in our squad, with the defensive way we have been playing, who else would be scoring in pretty much every game this season?
 
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