New Stadium Details And Discussions

[worcestersauce]

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When I started reading your post, I really wanted to correct your punctuation! But I read on, and the punctuation became irrelevant. Your passion for the event and the stadium, shone through. You built a wonderful picture of the stadium, in words.

Almost because of the ??? punctuation!

Wicked! I really can't wait to go.

sod off my punctuation is awesome

 

[spursfan77]

From today’s Daily Telegraph
Tottenham's awe-inspiring new home is a £1bn game-changer that could steal Wembley's thunder

• JASON BURT.

he Tottenham Hotspur Stadium – or whatever it will be called once the naming rights are sold – is more than a new stadium. And judging by the reaction to its first event, a test event involves the club’s Under-18s, that name should be the Wow Stadium.
It is a £1billion game-changer; a stadium that alters the landscape of sport in London; a stadium which has repercussions for English football and Tottenham’s standing in it but also for other sports and other arenas and what they might do - because it is now the best on the market.
Suddenly, or, rather, less suddenly given the frustrating over-run on its construction, it has arrived. The Emirates Stadium is still impressive, still a good football ground even if it lacks individuality, but Tottenham’s is a world-class, significant upgrade on what its rivals can offer and feels more bespoke and while West Ham United are making the best of the London Stadium it is simply not in the same bracket.
Above all, though, what does it mean for Wembley Stadium? The Football Association are acutely aware that despite the fact it opened just 12 years ago at a cost of £800million Wembley is in need of improvements – with £12million committed this year and a further £60million expected to be spent. The hope was that Fulham’s American billionaire owner Shahid Khan would take Wembley off the FA’s hands for £600million but that deal was kiboshed.

So the fear has to be that Wembley will be usurped especially with Spurs’ ambition to host concerts (the acoustics are first-rate and have been a big part of the planning) events and other sports – chiefly American football – to build a hotel and attract two million visitors a year. “We shall be a home for the NFL in London,” Spurs chairman Daniel Levy said and, in one stroke, that will take Wembley’s place and kudos in the United States.
The expectation is, with Spurs on the scene, other events will gravitate towards them and Wembley will be left to partly trade on its name (the one caveat, possibly a significant one, is that transport links to Wembley remain superior). Part of the attraction of Khan’s bid was what he could bring to Wembley beyond football.
“Their dedicated entrance, as well as dressing rooms and medical facilities in our East Stand, mean our stadium is the only one outside the United States specifically designed for the sport,” Levy added with Spurs having researched throughout the US, specifically the Dallas Cowboys vast, imposing stadium in Arlington and the futuristic, angular Minnesota Vikings stadium. Wembley cannot compete with that.
“One of the best of the best in the world,” Tottenham manager Mauricio Pochettino said of his club’s new home during Sunday’s first test event and it is no idle boast. It should be that – given it is the newest – but that is easier said than done and Spurs have achieved it. The extraordinary thing is that the £1billion cost, and it could be above that, the over-run, already feels like money very well spent. It looks value for money. It looks worth it. It is clear to see where the cash has gone.

Everyone who knows Levy not only talks about how demanding he is but how meticulous, also, and the stadium has the feel of his exacting standards – as well as an old-fashioned sense of one-upmanship. In the NBC documentary “To Dare Is To Do”, which aired in America in 2017, Levy admitted building a bigger stadium than Arsenal’s 60,260-capacity home “wasn’t the sole driver” for him (therefore it was a “driver”) and also spoke of the design meaning the fans are “five metres closer to the pitch than a comparable stadium in north London” (obvious who he was referring to there, then).

The 17,500-seat steeply-banked South Stand bis the largest single-tier stand in the UK CREDIT:REU
A spin through the dynamics and number show just how awesome – and is the right word – Spurs’ 62,062-seater stadium is. For example the 17,500-seat steeply-banked South Stand is the largest single-tier stand in the UK; the grass pitch can be removed in 25 minutes and can stay in a garage, in storage space under the South Stand, for up to 10 days where it is sustained by LED lighting, cooling and irrigation systems.
There are 1,800 HD TVs throughout the stadium and four bespoke main LED video displays totalling more than 1,000 square metres (enough to fill both penalty areas). The two screens on the South Stand are 325 square metres making them the largest in Europe while the floodlights use 50 per cent less energy than traditional, metal halide ones.

There are 471 WCs (84 per cent for women) and 773 urinals, 115 turnstiles, 265 wheelchair bays and even drinking water fountains. There are 65 food and drink outlets with 878 cashless payment points. It is the first football stadium to have its own microbrewery and the Goal Line Bar, at 65 metres, is claimed to be the longest in Europe.
The attraction is obvious and, for its rivals, over-powering.
Spurs are on a rapid upward trajectory.

Another idiot who thinks it cost £1 billion. If they can’t get an important thing like the cost correct, what else is wrong in their articles they write because they can’t be bothered to look up the financials properly.

 

[spursfan77]

There are no bookies, but with perfect wifi they're not really necessary anymore.

I think it’s a good move as well really. We are bombarded with enough betting adverts. It’s so deeply associated with football now for a lot of people.

 

[hellava_tough]

I do think that is the wrong way to look at it.

I know I caution about expecting too much of an impact, but there will be an impact. And, I think the financial impact alone will keep Spurs within reach of the top-4 in any given year. Its not enough to compete on money with the financially doped clubs - but its enough to have a talented squad year in, and year out, and that gives Spurs a chance to win.

But, just in watching/reading/listening to the test event yesterday - the buzz in the new stadium was palpable. I think that has an intangible effect on the squad - and the club as a whole. It makes the matchday experience that much better - and I think that enthusiasm matters.

This is a good point.

We're on course for another Top-6 finish (at least) this season, which will be 10 in a row so clearly we're established as a Top-6 club. But the stadium will reinforce this position.

These league finishes are no mean feats, considering that when you look at clubs outside of 'The Big 6', only Everton have managed consecutive Top-6 finishes in the last 10 seasons. And no club outside of 'The Big 6' has managed 3 consecutive seasons.

It's also worth noting that most clubs (perhaps even all clubs) outside of 'The Big 6' have flirted with relegation over the past 10 seasons. To get into the PL and then stay competitive in it, is actually really difficult; something that we take for granted because we've had such a long period now of relative success on the pitch.

So the new stadium and the increased revenues it will bring will truly cement our place in the Top-6, and ensure that the prolonged periods of mid-table league finishes as witnessed in the 90s, never happen again.

 

[Lilbaz]

Another idiot who thinks it cost £1 billion. If they can’t get an important thing like the cost correct, what else is wrong in their articles they write because they can’t be bothered to look up the financials properly.

Since we our debt currently stands at £637m and we had already paid hundreds of millions on the stadium it is understandable why they quote £1bn.

 

[coys200]

What is my agenda?

Agenda was a bit strong it was late lol. Opinion. Yeah I’m not sure why people get their knickers in a twist over the £1bn figure. With a 6 month overrun I’m not sure it’s gonna be a million miles off that and actually it’s probably quite good PR for our perception. Rather be thought of as a big club that built a £1bn stadium than little old Tottenham.

From the start one thing that was a little bug bear was not filling in the wave at top of south stand and the similarities it drew with the emirates. I understand I think it was something to do with sight lines and furthest distance from the pitch and over time I’ve got used to it. But as a bit of fun someone did a photoshop. It does look pretty impressive all filled in. I guess if they did ever want to add some seats it’s the obvious place. But not sure if it would be possible without taking the roof off. Still interesting to see how it would look.

 

[hellava_tough]

Btw, now that the stadium is up and running and by all accounts appears to be a real success, it will be interesting to see if Levy and Lewis will be looking to sell the club in the next 24 months. And for that matter, if there is much interest in their much touted £2b asking price.

Perhaps a sports/music entertainment company such as AEG? Or an American investor with links to the NFL?

 

[DogsOfWar]

Worth bearing in mind that Wembley turns over £350 million even with us taking up a seasons worth of home games there.

The earning potential for our stadium as a standalone business is huge and as the surrounding area/infrastructure becomes more developed we will increase the stadium activity.

 

[coys200]

Worth bearing in mind that Wembley turns over £350 million even with us taking up a seasons worth of home games there.

The earning potential for our stadium as a standalone business is huge and as the surrounding area/infrastructure becomes more developed we will increase the stadium activity.

I wonder how many full capacity events Wembley stages in a year. The only sports events it gets full gate receipts is England which must be about 5 or 6 games a year. Everything is shared receipts.

 

[Hoopspur]

I wonder how many full capacity events Wembley stages in a year. The only sports events it gets full gate receipts is England which must be about 5 or 6 games a year. Everything is shared receipts.

Yes, and at the end of the day we will be competing as a venue. It will be down as much to the financials as opposed to just the facilities. I’m not sure say the Foo Fighters or Rolling Stones gave 2 monkeys about the actual facilities at the London Stadium last year, it was just a matter of the bottom line. To that end we will have to be competing - we will just be another venue.

 

[wrd]

krispy kreme don't have a spread like I do today.

 

[vicbob]

3 PC's, 3 different browsers and an Ipad, I'm going for it!

I'm going to get very little work done until this is over one way or the other

 

[shelfboy68]

Btw, now that the stadium is up and running and by all accounts appears to be a real success, it will be interesting to see if Levy and Lewis will be looking to sell the club in the next 24 months. And for that matter, if there is much interested at their £2b much-touted asking price.

Perhaps a sports/music entertainment company such as AEG? Or an American investor with links to the NFL?

I think given to such a strong lean towards the NFL that it's very likely our next owners could conceivably be American and owners of an NFL team looking to expand.

 

[Martin91]

3 PC's, 3 different browsers and an Ipad, I'm going for it!

I'm going to get very little work done until this is over one way or the other

Good luck!!
Ive got mine but now its the task to get my younger brothers tickets as they are only members!

 

[nicdic]

Come on you donut of doom!

 

[vicbob]

Come on you donut of doom!

I'm worried I've peaked too soon, 3 of mine are on about 80% already!!

 

[wrd]

I'm worried I've peaked too soon, 3 of mine are on about 80% already!!

Same, a couple of mine went through to the site before now but they've gone back into please wait after clicking on tickets, I've got a decent spread of timings. I'm back internet explorer to win it all.

 

[Wick3d]

I'm worried I've peaked too soon, 3 of mine are on about 80% already!!

It will get stuck towards the end, should sit tight and wait. Just hope your position in the queue is towards the front! I started queuing around 9am. Got it on multiple devices as well.

 

[Dougal]

Come on you donut of doom!

Soggy biscuit with a twist.

 

[Wig]

I'm worried I've peaked too soon, 3 of mine are on about 80% already!!

My donut of doom hasn't moved round in the past half hour. I am correct in assuming it will hold it's position now until the ticket sales window officially opens at 10am? Fingers crossed for everyone on here trying to get tickets