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Shadydan

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Jul 7, 2012
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First visit to the stadium today for a match, sat in the Premium East stand in the middle tier, apart from the result enjoyed the experience. The concourses feel like you're in an airport lounge not a stadium, there was a bad playing all day and there were free cakes and cookies on hand as well as free beer and wine on the go.

There were times that you could really hear the noise reverberating around the stadium and it is loud! We need to keep that up as fans.

Toilets are ridiculously clean as well, never seen toilets that clean in a football stadium before.

Didn't stay too long in the end cause I was pissed off and wanted to get home but I'm going back for the Everton match so I'll probably stay longer.
 

BPR_U16

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Jun 28, 2006
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Whats this shit floating around social media we pump crowd noise into our games can anyone enlighten me on why this was happening pre game?

No noise coming from our white wall second half - only groans and moans.
Has novelty worn out because cannot believe how quiet we were the whole game - apart from when prats start singing stand up if you hate a*****l, which people are singing purely as a result that they dont want to sit down.
 

whitesocks

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Jan 16, 2014
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Fans have noted that the chants are synchronised around the ground, especially compared with Wembley. Sound has a set speed - you can't physically design around that, so they must be repeating the chants via the sound system to keep them in step. Is this cheating? I dunno.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/...er-than-ever-and-its-the-poor-who-suffer-most

This article goes on about changing the reverberation of spaces - effectively remodelling the background noise - adding reverberation, or tweaking decay, strength, clarity and warmth . It is all the rage today. Invisible architecture.

I think it is more than likely that we have gone in for some of that.

As others have noted, if no-one is making any noise, then the stadium is silent, so it is not adding noise - just editing the noise that is already there to help coordinate and make the sound space more pleasing. Is that fair enough?
 

worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
Jan 23, 2006
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Whats this shit floating around social media we pump crowd noise into our games can anyone enlighten me on why this was happening pre game?
It is exactly that, shit it doesn't happen, they play music and stuff like to dare is to do before the game but that's no different to what they did before.
 

RichieS

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Dec 23, 2004
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Fans have noted that the chants are synchronised around the ground, especially compared with Wembley. Sound has a set speed - you can't physically design around that, so they must be repeating the chants via the sound system to keep them in step. Is this cheating? I dunno.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/...er-than-ever-and-its-the-poor-who-suffer-most

This article goes on about changing the reverberation of spaces - effectively remodelling the background noise - adding reverberation, or tweaking decay, strength, clarity and warmth . It is all the rage today. Invisible architecture.

I think it is more than likely that we have gone in for some of that.

As others have noted, if no-one is making any noise, then the stadium is silent, so it is not adding noise - just editing the noise that is already there to help coordinate and make the sound space more pleasing. Is that fair enough?
You're right that you can't control the speed of sound (without introducing a different medium for it to travel through, anyway) but you can control where and when the reflections (i.e. echoes) arrive. You do this by carefully designing the shapes of things and using certain materials. That's what the designers of our stadium have done.

There's no way the architects and the club have gone on at length about how they've built a stadium with close to perfect acoustics, only for it to actually turn out to be playing crowd noise through the speakers.
 

Grey Fox

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Jul 10, 2008
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It won't be long before opposing fans start singing, "you only sing when you're winning ". Its when the team are losing or having a tough time that they need support not when we are winning 2 or 4-0.
Yesterday was a disgrace, we will become like the Emirates , brilliant acoustics or not
 

therhinospeaks

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Dec 18, 2014
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It won't be long before opposing fans start singing, "you only sing when you're winning ". Its when the team are losing or having a tough time that they need support not when we are winning 2 or 4-0.
Yesterday was a disgrace, we will become like the Emirates , brilliant acoustics or not

Did you go to Tottenham in the 90s?
 

Tiffers

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Aug 7, 2011
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I was in the north stand yesterday, for the first time, and it seemed to me that the noise in the stadium, in the first half only, was a lot louder than when I’ve been sitting higher up in the south stand .
 

whitesocks

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Jan 16, 2014
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You're right that you can't control the speed of sound (without introducing a different medium for it to travel through, anyway) but you can control where and when the reflections (i.e. echoes) arrive. You do this by carefully designing the shapes of things and using certain materials. That's what the designers of our stadium have done.

There's no way the architects and the club have gone on at length about how they've built a stadium with close to perfect acoustics, only for it to actually turn out to be playing crowd noise through the speakers.
True the club could have spent £10m installing some fancy material to near instantly propagate the chants around the stadium. Instead maybe they used the medium of copper wire!

The club are never going to tell us too much about this. As long as it sounds natural and is pleasing, then it is fine by me.
 

SteveH

BSoDL candidate for SW London
Jul 21, 2003
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Thought the slope at the corners of the pitch was going to be reduced?
 
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