New Stadium Details And Discussions

[Coq_Au_Ginge]

 

[Saoirse]

surely the majority of ST holders will know where to go by then, with us already having a few familiarisations, and 2 test events they should hopefully know where to get in, and where to go.

travel disruption can happen on any given day. fair enough more likely during rush hour. I'm also sure if we had our 1st CL game as the opener a good amount of those 42k will either book the day and the following day off for the experience, or will be chucking a sickie and hope they are not spotted on TV

The vast majority haven't been yet have they? As far as I'm aware the December event was for 6k, and the others have been for corporates/premium (which are 8k on top, but I haven't counted as I'm guessing they're probably guided around a bit more, more likely to have already been etc). Not to mention that it was only the South Stand.

As for the test events, I guess it depends how it's done. Hopefully for the second one with a big enough capacity all ST holders can be invited, and put in their normal seats - that would help if the majority of them turn up.

And as for travel disruption, while it can happen on any day, it's a) more likely in rush hour and b) more disruptive. The late trains get even busier with the double whammy of fans + commuters, and fans tend to be arriving much closer to kick-off leaving far less room for manuever. Plenty milling around at 2.30 for a 5.30 kickoff on a Saturday (and more would for the first game), but at 5pm on a Champions League night nobody's there yet.

 

[worcestersauce]

Whether we like it or not, UEFA are not going to allow the first ever game at a new stadium to be a Champs League match. Especially as it’s midweek.

While it’s unlikely there’ll be any technical hitch, there is still an increased possibility compared to a fully-operational stadium. And they can’t take that risk, no matter how small.

Why not? Perhaps they'd appreciate having a EUFA Champions league game as the opening game at a brand new state of the art 21st century stadium.

 

[Lighty64]

The vast majority haven't been yet have they? As far as I'm aware the December event was for 6k, and the others have been for corporates/premium (which are 8k on top, but I haven't counted as I'm guessing they're probably guided around a bit more, more likely to have already been etc). Not to mention that it was only the South Stand.

As for the test events, I guess it depends how it's done. Hopefully for the second one with a big enough capacity all ST holders can be invited, and put in their normal seats - that would help if the majority of them turn up.

And as for travel disruption, while it can happen on any day, it's a) more likely in rush hour and b) more disruptive. The late trains get even busier with the double whammy of fans + commuters, and fans tend to be arriving much closer to kick-off leaving far less room for manuever. Plenty milling around at 2.30 for a 5.30 kickoff on a Saturday (and more would for the first game), but at 5pm on a Champions League night nobody's there yet.

sickie or day off

I'm sure the majority of 42k ST will get to 1 or both test events which will make it a lot less chaotic. I do know the probs with rush hour and disruptions, and also know a lot of the rushing to get to seats before kick off are also caused because "that 1 extra pint" can also cause a lot of delays. on the day fans will have to help especially if it is our 1st fixture

 

[FibreOpticJesus]

sickie or day off

I'm sure the majority of 42k ST will get to 1 or both test events which will make it a lot less chaotic. I do know the probs with rush hour and disruptions, and also know a lot of the rushing to get to seats before kick off are also caused because "that 1 extra pint" can also cause a lot of delays. on the day fans will have to help especially if it is our 1st fixture

I and the majority of ST holders I know are waiting for the 1st proper game so that our first visit will be extra special. I think the test events will be mainly filled by non ST holders as it will be difficult to get tickets for the majority of games and this will be their chance.

 

[Lighty64]

I and the majority of ST holders I know are waiting for the 1st proper game so that our first visit will be extra special. I think the test events will be mainly filled by non ST holders as it will be difficult to get tickets for the majority of games and this will be their chance.

I suggest you and your 20k friends book the day off if it's the CL match then

 

[mil1lion]

There was always a school of thought too that they wouldn't want us opening with a midweek which makes sense. We've got 42k ST holders. The normal process will assume they know exactly where they're going and can find there way in the ground and to their seat very easily. That obviously won't be the case for the first game. People will turn up having forgotten what number their block is, nobody will know the best way to get to it once inside, whether to go up or down, left or right etc without checking. That faff times 42 thousand people is going to equal quite a substantial slow-down, so it's imperative plenty of people arrive early. Which they would for a weekend opener - but a midweek game is much trickier. All you need is some transport issue out of our control, and you have tens of thousands turning up late, with little idea where to go, and slowly gawking around to boot. That would probably mean a delayed kick-off on safety grounds as if the match starts you'll have people rushing in and around, just going to the nearest part they can see space rather than their designated seat, etc. I could entirely understand, albeit I'd be very dissappointed, if it's a can of worms UEFA reckons they could do without.

So how is us playing our first game at the new stadium as a CL midweek game different to playing at Wembley for CL in 2017? Those games were the first and only games we played at Wembley, a stadium we were not used to going too, and a even larger capacity to this stadium. Yet we played there while playing league games at WHL. We didn't have test events for Wembley either.

 

[Dougal]

Interesting. Did you see someone found a traffic order from Haringey Council dated Tuesday about the new stadium for an event on the 16th with an attendance of 10,000 or more?

 

[Dougal]

It’s happening baby!

https://m.thegazette.co.uk/notice/3224593

 

[Saoirse]

So how is us playing our first game at the new stadium as a CL midweek game different to playing at Wembley for CL in 2017? Those games were the first and only games we played at Wembley, a stadium we were not used to going too, and a even larger capacity to this stadium. Yet we played there while playing league games at WHL. We didn't have test events for Wembley either.

They weren't the first games we played at Wembley - we'd already played five matches there in the past few years (plus two poorly-attended friendlies). So people at least knew their way around a bit more. Staff familiarity was also very good - stewards etc could look at a ticket and know very quickly where to send somebody - which we probably won't have. It was a group stage game, so a delayed kick-off or even a postponement would've been much less problematic as there'd have been less commercial attention on it and less time pressure on organising a new game. And the ground was proven in terms of coping with transport, even when there were big crowds and delays, whereas ours hasn't ever had this situation and has a sign-off based on everybody not arriving at once.

I'm not saying this makes it impossible to do, just understandable if UEFA would rather not go there.

 

[FibreOpticJesus]

It’s happening baby!

https://m.thegazette.co.uk/notice/3224593

Excellent whoring?

 

[Dougal]

Excellent whoring?

Like I’m the only one who’s hooked on Haringey Traffic Notices. It’s my daily lunchtime read.

 

[mil1lion]

They weren't the first games we played at Wembley - we'd already played five matches there in the past few years (plus two poorly-attended friendlies). So people at least knew their way around a bit more. Staff familiarity was also very good - stewards etc could look at a ticket and know very quickly where to send somebody - which we probably won't have. It was a group stage game, so a delayed kick-off or even a postponement would've been much less problematic as there'd have been less commercial attention on it and less time pressure on organising a new game. And the ground was proven in terms of coping with transport, even when there were big crowds and delays, whereas ours hasn't ever had this situation and has a sign-off based on everybody not arriving at once.

I'm not saying this makes it impossible to do, just understandable if UEFA would rather not go there.

Yes but WHL is a lot more familiar to us than playing the odd game at Wembley with a 50/50 fan split. We're all familar with the location of the stadium and the transport links available. I'm not sure it will be all that troublesome to be honest. The stewards will have had test events and been well drilled where everything is too.

I was actually convinced we wouldn't open the stadium as a midweek game earlier in the season. However we're now at a stage where we really need to open the stadium. I also think it's more inconvenient to a majority of fans going to Wembley for an evening CL game with the full capacity than a first game at NWHL.

 

[FibreOpticJesus]

Like I’m the only one who’s hooked on Haringey Traffic Notices. It’s my daily lunchtime read.

Keep it up. Made my day

 

[Lighty64]

They weren't the first games we played at Wembley - we'd already played five matches there in the past few years (plus two poorly-attended friendlies). So people at least knew their way around a bit more. Staff familiarity was also very good - stewards etc could look at a ticket and know very quickly where to send somebody - which we probably won't have. It was a group stage game, so a delayed kick-off or even a postponement would've been much less problematic as there'd have been less commercial attention on it and less time pressure on organising a new game. And the ground was proven in terms of coping with transport, even when there were big crowds and delays, whereas ours hasn't ever had this situation and has a sign-off based on everybody not arriving at once.

I'm not saying this makes it impossible to do, just understandable if UEFA would rather not go there.

our last season at the lane, we played at Wembley for the CL. we hadn't been regulars until then

 

[Coq_Au_Ginge]

It’s happening baby!

https://m.thegazette.co.uk/notice/3224593

16th March! Great work sir

 

[carmeldevil]

16th March! Great work sir

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Lot of verbiage to say March 16th.

 

['O Zio]

So not just cashless but contactless.
That’s bollocks... my main card is not contactless.

Naughty of them to start selling prepaid Spurs only cards too. That’s a nice way to make a bit of extra cash as I would wager a lot of non-regulars end up spending less than they put on the card.

Every "new" card I've been sent in the last maybe 5 years has been contactless. My American card is contactless and they don't even use it over there (they only got chip and PIN about 2 years ago ffs) so I'm amazed you've managed to avoid being given one whether you asked for it or not to be honest. Even if not every card is contactless, I find it hard to believe that anyone under the age of 70 doesn't have a single contactless card and even then I guarantee you can get one from the bank if you ask for one, so it's really not an issue unless someone is just deliberately going out of their way to be anti-technology in a cutting their nose off to spite their face kind of way, in which case that's their own fault. It's like saying "What do you mean the new Star Wars film isn't available on VHS?! What are those of us who only have a VHS player supposed to do then?"

And you've almost certainly misunderstood the pre-pay stadium card things. I don't have the details of the Spurs ones obviously, but every stadium I've been to that operates a cashless system like that the prepay cards are e.g. 5 quid from the little machine in the concourse, but it comes with 5 quid credit already on it. So in practice it's free. Not a money-making scam, it's just a way to make the entire process of buying stuff in the stadium 100X more efficient. I suppose it then increases their profits indirectly because they can sell more stuff if they process each person more quickly, but I'd hardly call that naughty, it's just common sense.

 

[Saoirse]

Every "new" card I've been sent in the last maybe 5 years has been contactless. My American card is contactless and they don't even use it over there (they only got chip and PIN about 2 years ago ffs) so I'm amazed you've managed to avoid being given one whether you asked for it or not to be honest. Even if not every card is contactless, I find it hard to believe that anyone under the age of 70 doesn't have a single contactless card and even then I guarantee you can get one from the bank if you ask for one, so it's really not an issue unless someone is just deliberately going out of their way to be anti-technology in a cutting their nose off to spite their face kind of way, in which case that's their own fault. It's like saying "What do you mean the new Star Wars film isn't available on VHS?! What are those of us who only have a VHS player supposed to do then?"

And you've almost certainly misunderstood the pre-pay stadium card things. I don't have the details of the Spurs ones obviously, but every stadium I've been to that operates a cashless system like that the prepay cards are e.g. 5 quid from the little machine in the concourse, but it comes with 5 quid credit already on it. So in practice it's free. Not a money-making scam, it's just a way to make the entire process of buying stuff in the stadium 100X more efficient. I suppose it then increases their profits indirectly because they can sell more stuff if they process each person more quickly, but I'd hardly call that naughty, it's just common sense.

I think for us the season ticket/membership cards are going to act as pre-pays. Only thing is once we reach the point where games reach general sale those people won't have them.

 

[Mate]

I think it's perfect full stop. Increase the capacity much more and you'll get the daytripping selfiesticking pizza munching tourists that have been frequenting Wembley. Let's have an atmosphere.

Better known as the Son Heung Min fans