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[Lilbaz]

Did Harry Kane post anything on Twitter about how maybe if Pogba or Tammy would have scored their penalties then they wouldn't have got abused?

I'm sure there is a reason for you saying this. But i have no idea what?

 

[Lilbaz]

Don't go in an SC match thread...

I don't. Our fans aren't much better. Hopefully less racist though.

 

[Dillspur]

I'm sure there is a reason for you saying this. But i have no idea what?

Moise Kean was abused relentlessly against Cagliari, he scored and stood in front of the Cagliari fans and they ramped it up, Leonardo Bonucci (Italian captain I think? Hence ref to Kane) rather than defending him posted on Twitter Kean was partly to blame for the angry response.

 

[Marty]

Moise Kean was abused relentlessly against Cagliari, he scored and stood in front of the Cagliari fans and they ramped it up, Leonardo Bonucci (Italian captain I think? Hence ref to Kane) rather than defending him posted on Twitter Kean was partly to blame for the angry response.

Chiellini is both Juve and Italy captain, not Bonucci, and Chiellini vocally and unconditionally supported Kean. So the Kane reference is more than a little far-fetched.

 

[Dillspur]

Chiellini is both Juve and Italy captain, not Bonucci, and Chiellini vocally and unconditionally supported Kean. So the Kane reference is more than a little far-fetched.

Are you sure about that? The incident happened in 2018, as far as I can see he was captain of Juventus and Italy at the time? If not, then yes the Kane reference is far fetched. However I don't see anything from UTD players or Chav players stating Pogba/Tammy are party to blame for missing the penalties

 

[Shadydan]

Are you sure about that? The incident happened in 2018, as far as I can see he was captain of Juventus and Italy at the time? If not, then yes the Kane reference is far fetched. However I don't see anything from UTD players or Chav players stating Pogba/Tammy are party to blame for missing the penalties

Thought that Kean incident happened in April just gone?

 

[Dillspur]

Thought that Kean incident happened in April just gone?

You're right! Jesus, I thought that it happen just before the worldcup!

 

[Shadydan]

You're right! Jesus, I thought that it happen just before the worldcup!

Time flies I guess.

 

[Dillspur]

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ment-over-racist-abuse-directed-at-moise-kean

No punishment for Cagliari or their fans. I don't think people are deluded enough to know there aren't racist issues plaguing our society, but I can't imagine the FA/PL or clubs would stand for this.

 

['O Zio]

Moise Kean was abused relentlessly against Cagliari, he scored and stood in front of the Cagliari fans and they ramped it up, Leonardo Bonucci (Italian captain I think? Hence ref to Kane) rather than defending him posted on Twitter Kean was partly to blame for the angry response.

Chiellini is the Juve and Italy captain. He was the one trying to point out to the ref that there was racist chanting going on in the first place so you can't really blame him.

Bonucci made some stupidly worded comments in the immediate aftermath of the game that were taken out of context a bit by the media but he apologized the next day and clarified what he meant.

Either way, I don't think any of this really ties into anything about Harry Kane. Not really sure what you're trying to get at with that one, sorry mate

 

[Dillspur]

Chiellini is the Juve and Italy captain. He was the one trying to point out to the ref that there was racist chanting going on in the first place so you can't really blame him.

Bonucci made some stupidly worded comments in the immediate aftermath of the game that were taken out of context a bit by the media but he apologized the next day and clarified what he meant.

Either way, I don't think any of this really ties into anything about Harry Kane. Not really sure what you're trying to get at with that one, sorry mate

I had wrongly thought that the incident happened in 2018 and Bonucci was the Juventus/Italy captain, the point I was trying to make was that you wouldn't have the England captain (Kane) post on Twitter that any player receiving racist abuse was partly to blame.

Someone compared the Italian issues with our own, while I acknowledged that we have issues, our FA/PL and clubs are at least trying to tackle them, condemn it and ban the fans. While the Italian F.A./league don't, see article above regarding the Kean incident.

 

[ikky]

 

[KILLA_SIN]

Someone compared the Italian issues with our own, while I acknowledged that we have issues, our FA/PL and clubs are at least trying to tackle them, condemn it and ban the fans. While the Italian F.A./league don't, see article above regarding the Kean incident.

Didn't make a comparison, but a few posters have been almost self congratulatory about how we don't have these problems in English football as though it would never happen what Kean faced in Italy, but this is not true. Just because it doesn't happen in a stadium doesn't mean it doesn't exist, We talk about Chelsea fans and this all the time on this forum. And they are definitely all English.

 

[KILLA_SIN]

On social media no? Most utd fans these days aren't even english.

Disgusting though. Fans should support their players even if they fuck up. Abuse, racial or otherwise is not warranted.

They definitely are

 

[chaching]

They definitely are

Man utd say they have 659 million fans uk has 67 million people in it so that would suggest the majority of man utd fans are not British never mind English

 

[sausage]

https://amp-theguardian-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2019/aug/20/paul-pogba-manchester-united-racially-abused-penalty-twitter-wolves-disgusted?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQEKAFwAQ==#referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/aug/20/paul-pogba-manchester-united-racially-abused-penalty-twitter-wolves-disgusted


Are we still congratulating ourselves on how much better we are over here than disgusting Italian football

Bit of a strange flex. Twitter isn't exclusively UK tweets.

I would go as far as to suggest that a large good chunk of PL-related tweets I read on there are from fans who are quite blatantly from other parts of the world - such as is the expectancy with a globalised product emanating from a tiny island.

 

[Stamford]

Never seen so much discussion around a missed penalty.

 

[KILLA_SIN]

Bit of a strange flex. Twitter isn't exclusively UK tweets.

I would go as far as to suggest that a large good chunk of PL-related tweets I read on there are from fans who are quite blatantly from other parts of the world - such as is the expectancy with a globalised product emanating from a tiny island.

In the EFL, Stoke City’s James McClean, Southend United’s Theo Robinson, Bambo Diaby of Barnsley and the sister of the Fulham defender Cyrus Christie were targets of abuse based on discrimination

Yes I am sure these clubs have hugely global fan bases, a very strange flex indeed - almost as strange as flexing that it must be foreigners in other countries abusing foreigners in this country, I think I'm going to have to have a little think about that one. But anyway I'm sure you have far more extensive experience about these matters than I do.

 

[ikky]

 

[Dillspur]

Didn't make a comparison, but a few posters have been almost self congratulatory about how we don't have these problems in English football as though it would never happen what Kean faced in Italy, but this is not true. Just because it doesn't happen in a stadium doesn't mean it doesn't exist, We talk about Chelsea fans and this all the time on this forum. And they are definitely all English.

Totally agree, the point I was trying to make (not very well) was the clubs/PL/FA seem to be trying to do something about it, whereas the Italian powers don't.