Harry Kane

[brasil_spur]

I'm sure there are other examples. That's the first that came to mind. The point was that selling Kane to Bayern is not a lifetime guarantee that he's not in the starting XI at ManCity against us in 2 years.

The only one I can think of that's similar is Ronaldo, albeit he left Utd before he peaked, then went to Juve and then came back to Utd, which somewhat contradicts your point as he came back to the PL to play for his old club.

There's De Bruyne of course, but he was sold by Chelsea because he wasn't deemed good enough and it was early in his career.

I honestly can't think of a single top player that went abroad towards the latter part of their career and then came back a couple of / few years later and signed for a rival PL team.

 

[St José Dominguez]

The absolute certainty some people speak about Richarlison not being good enough to be our number 9 baffles me. He’s been here a year. A year in which he didn’t start a single Premier league game at number 9. He barely had a run of games to get any form before being benched. Under a manager playing turgid negative football and who by sounds of it constantly criticised him.

He’s scored 20 goals for Brazil and has premier league experience but yes he does need to prove himself. Personally if Ange likes him, we should stand by the fact we invested money into bringing him here and give him at least until January as a starter under a manager who will be playing football that creates shit loads of chances for him. Rather than just writing the guy off with not much actual evidence as to why.

 

[yido_number1]

The absolute certainty some people speak about Richarlison not being good enough to be our number 9 baffles me. He’s been here a year. A year in which he didn’t start a single Premier league game at number 9. He barely had a run of games to get any form before being benched. Under a manager playing turgid negative football and who by sounds of it constantly criticised him.

He’s scored 20 goals for Brazil and has premier league experience but yes he does need to prove himself. Personally if Ange likes him, we should stand by the fact we invested money into bringing him here and give him at least until January as a starter under a manager who will be playing football that creates shit loads of chances for him. Rather than just writing the guy off with not much actual evidence as to why.

Take this to the Richarlison thread but he's a 1 in 3 striker at best. Even at Everton his finishing was never great and that hasn't improved at spurs. He lacks the killer instinct to be our number 9 full time.

Forget his 1st year at spurs across his career he hasn't been anywhere good enough to lace Kane's boots.

 

[curlacious]

He’s 1 in 2 for Brazil. He’s not had the kind of club team that would allow him to be prolific before.

He could easily be a consistent 1 in 3 striker, like Gabriel Jesus. We can then get more goal contributions from the wingers and midfield, from Maddison (Saka, Martinelli and Odegaard style)

 

[St José Dominguez]

Take this to the Richarlison thread but he's a 1 in 3 striker at best. Even at Everton his finishing was never great and that hasn't improved at spurs. He lacks the killer instinct to be our number 9 full time.

Forget his 1st year at spurs across his career he hasn't been anywhere good enough to lace Kane's boots.

There’s no point taking it to any thread because until he starts premier league games as a number 9 here at Tottenham with these tactics and a manager like Ange any opinion is pretty redundant as there nothing to base it on.

 

[Leroy]

Not sure why so many are reading this as a binary (he goes, or he signs a new contract) when Ange literally says that he has another year left in them. The clarity that's required is not just sold or sign. Just stay is also clarity on the coming season.

Did you not just read Anges quotes where he doesn’t want this to drag on. Either he stays and commits or his sold. No third way

 

[worcestersauce]

I get the sense there's an argument that he's worth 20-30 goals a year and we won't replace his goals if we lose him alongside an argument that Bayern Munich aren't the team they were a couple or few years ago missing the point he will add 20-30 goals to their season, personally I think they missed Lewandowski's goals big time last season and they think the same.
For the record I predict we'll score more goals this season than last with or without Harry Kane.

 

[TheWook]

Did you not just read Anges quotes where he doesn’t want this to drag on. Either he stays and commits or his sold. No third way

that's not what was said at all.

 

[Leroy]

that's not what was said at al

that's not what was said at all.

So what do you think he meant by his latest quotes, about this need’s resolution one way or the other? Please do explain

 

[DJS]

I would still think Kane might be excited at prospect of having Maddison in team to create even more chances for him.

Or maybe I’m just easily pleased lol.

 

[HildoSpur]

The absolute certainty some people speak about Richarlison not being good enough to be our number 9 baffles me. He’s been here a year. A year in which he didn’t start a single Premier league game at number 9. He barely had a run of games to get any form before being benched. Under a manager playing turgid negative football and who by sounds of it constantly criticised him.

He’s scored 20 goals for Brazil and has premier league experience but yes he does need to prove himself. Personally if Ange likes him, we should stand by the fact we invested money into bringing him here and give him at least until January as a starter under a manager who will be playing football that creates shit loads of chances for him. Rather than just writing the guy off with not much actual evidence as to why.

There are very few strikers in the world at the moment who can regularly score you 15 + league goals a season. That is the reality of the situation unless you are going to spend an absolute fuck ton of cash. Richarlison is never going to score you 25 goals a season but then neither are 95% of all other available strikers out there. What he has shown with Brazil is that in the right team he can score fairly regularly playing as a striker. In his club career to date he has never really been given that main striker role for any length of time.

I think he is good enough in the context of what other options are available and considering we spent a lot of money on him it makes sense to give him the chance to prove himself up front with us.

 

[Trent Crimm]

I would still think Kane might be excited at prospect of having Maddison in team to create even more chances for him.

Or maybe I’m just easily pleased lol.

He could be equally excited in playing in CL next season. Which is where his level is at.

 

[KingNick]

Did you not just read Anges quotes where he doesn’t want this to drag on. Either he stays and commits or his sold. No third way

You’ve definitely just constructed that interpretation for your own purpose.

There was nothing in what he said to suggest that he has to commit LONG TERM. Merely that he does not want uncertainty. It is perfectly possible that he would be happy with a positive discussion for Kane to do this season and then see where things are.

 

[Smokinhotspur]

Did you not just read Anges quotes where he doesn’t want this to drag on. Either he stays and commits or his sold. No third way

Harry staying for one more year and we'll see what happens next summer would also fit with Ange's view of not wanting this to drag on so not as simple as extend or be sold. That would also provide clarity at least for next season at which point it is Harry's sole decision to make. Even this summer he doesn't have to go if he doesn't want to regardless of any bids that may be accepted for him.

 

[KingNick]

He could be equally excited in playing in CL next season. Which is where his level is at.

Yes, players have always said this. But in reality it’s really not many games at all, and surely too few to make life changing decisions on for the sake of possibly one season being out of it. With us he’s proven he can cut it at that level and he’s been to a final.

 

[Thenewcat]

Repeating myself here, but if he doesn’t go this summer, we don’t have him for next season, we have him until January - at best.

No chance he plays at 100% for the second half of the season. He’s not going to risk doing his ACL, a hamstring, or something similar giving everything for a club he’s leaving in a few months.

Christ sake you would think no one has ever left a club on a free at the end of his contract before. Did Gundogan stop playing in January or did he captain City to a treble? Kane is nothing if not a professional

 

[Trent Crimm]

Yes, players have always said this. But in reality it’s really not many games at all, and surely too few to make life changing decisions on for the sake of possibly one season being out of it. With us he’s proven he can cut it at that level and he’s been to a final.

My point is he won’t be next season.

 

[kremlyn]

The only one I can think of that's similar is Ronaldo, albeit he left Utd before he peaked, then went to Juve and then came back to Utd, which somewhat contradicts your point as he came back to the PL to play for his old club.

There's De Bruyne of course, but he was sold by Chelsea because he wasn't deemed good enough and it was early in his career.

I honestly can't think of a single top player that went abroad towards the latter part of their career and then came back a couple of / few years later and signed for a rival PL team.

Does Michael Owen count?

 

[Leroy]

You’ve definitely just constructed that interpretation for your own purpose.

There was nothing in what he said to suggest that he has to commit LONG TERM. Merely that he does not want uncertainty. It is perfectly possible that he would be happy with a positive discussion for Kane to do this season and then see where things are.

Don’t kid yourself, so every press conference he must b asked abt Kane and his future? Please he basically said it’s not good for Kane nor the team to have this hanging over them. That’s why he wants it resolved

 

[Thenewcat]

Does Michael Owen count?

Mcmanaman as well if he counts. So few top players have gone abroad it’s a moot point