Harry Kane

[austinfh]

So, you must be of the opinion that it is a matter of better coaching and this same set of players would have been better this season? I’m not completely bought in on this notion that every bad thing that happened this season was down to one person. As for the cool aid comment... do we really know what happens behind the scenes? It is very clear to see on the pitch... no matter who is the coach in the last two years... that this team lacks leadership and cohesion and discipline.

Im not 100% confident right now, that even if (pick your favorite) coach came in, and had to work with the same set of players, they would‘nt run into some of the same systemic issues we have seen for a long time now. It could be possible that there really is a group of players in the squad who did believe in the coaching but couldn’t interpret what he wanted out on the pitch. Harry’s point here has some merit. But it isn’t the Jose love aspect that irks me... it’s that he doesn’t seem to take on any accountability. And the fact is, he has had games as well this season where he did not show up. Did not lead by example. That’s what actually annoys me about this quote. He’s throwing his teammates under the bus.

this rhetoric of being 'men' is the particularly grating bit to me... I mean doesn't he sponsor Mind charity for Leyton Orient. It's just disappointing him using this sort of language

 

[cabinfever]

Yeah I think that's fair. Two hundred mil in two payments, one now, one next summer.

Cash.......used notes........

 

[Saoirse]

Fucking hell. Fully drank the Mourinho coolade. It's all down to leadership and not lack of tactics. Should've just played Joe Hart in midfield.

Bit of toxic masculinity to boot.

The tactics were shite. But attitude and commitment are massively important in sports too. There's nothing toxic about demanding that and to be honest I really don't like that use of the term (seen it from Windy on Twatter too) when it originally referred to far less trivial behaviours like bigotry, violence and rape.

 

[dickieven]

Just watched the interview and I am shocked by Harry. His putting is shit.

 

[Blackcanary]

Or... hear me out... there are a lot of players in this squad who don't respect the fans, don't respect the club, don't give 100% and need to be shipped out ASAP. They very clearly decided to turn on Poch, turn on Mourinho, were called out by Hugo after Zagreb and now by Harry.

You're assuming that Kane didn't want Poch out too...

 

[Saoirse]

You're assuming that Kane didn't want Poch out too...

By most accounts he did, and I don't like that if so. But he's never been anything less than ultra-consistent and a fighter on the pitch whether he approved of the management or not. He didn't down tools.

 

[Saoirse]

this rhetoric of being 'men' is the particularly grating bit to me... I mean doesn't he sponsor Mind charity for Leyton Orient. It's just disappointing him using this sort of language

I think you can 100% support mental health without having to abandon all notion of gendered qualities or differences. I'd go as far as to argue that modern negativity about masculinity has some role in that crisis, but I'll try to avoid dragging this too far off topic!

 

[Sandros Shiny Head]

Or... hear me out... there are a lot of players in this squad who don't respect the fans, don't respect the club, don't give 100% and need to be shipped out ASAP. They very clearly decided to turn on Poch, turn on Mourinho, were called out by Hugo after Zagreb and now by Harry.

Harry and Hugo are the two weakest mentality players in the squad so that's hilarious to me

 

[austinfh]

I think you can 100% support mental health without having to abandon all notion of gendered qualities or differences. I'd go as far as to argue that modern negativity about masculinity has some role in that crisis, but I'll try to avoid dragging this too far off topic!

I disagree but entirely different convo like you say

 

[journeyman]

Interesting interview, but Kane’s analysis of why we were crap under Jose is incomplete to say the least. It’s the type of Roy Keane analysis that only queries the mental fortitude of players and puts much less emphasis on style of play, its suitability for the players in the squad, and clarity of coaching and tactics.

 

[RuskyM]

Or... hear me out... there are a lot of players in this squad who don't respect the fans, don't respect the club, don't give 100% and need to be shipped out ASAP. They very clearly decided to turn on Poch, turn on Mourinho, were called out by Hugo after Zagreb and now by Harry.

can both not be true?

besides, hugo and harry are meant to be our two captains: it's all very well blaming everyone else but if there's a lack of leadership, maybe they should consider what their job is meant to be.

 

[hughy]

warms your heart

Crazy flashbacks to the days when only Spurs fans rated him.

 

[Johnny J]

Jenas on Radio 5 talking about Kane and whether he has it in him to force a move through by being disruptive.

Said that when he was at Spurs, one player forced a move by doing shit like picking up the ball in training, whenever it came near him, and throwing it away (lmfao). I wonder who that was.

Can't be Modric, as he talked about his situation separately and said he was unhappy but trained OK and knuckled down to earn his move to Real.

 

[the yid]

Jenas on Radio 5 talking about Kane and whether he has it in him to force a move through by being disruptive.

Said that when he was at Spurs, one player forced a move by doing shit like picking up the ball in training, whenever it came near him, and throwing it away (lmao). I wonder who that was.

Can't be Modric, as he talked about his situation separately and said he was unhappy but trained OK and knuckled down to earn his move to Real.

Definitely 100% Berbatov

 

[Gspurs11]

The tactics were shite. But attitude and commitment are massively important in sports too. There's nothing toxic about demanding that and to be honest I really don't like that use of the term (seen it from Windy on Twatter too) when it originally referred to far less trivial behaviours like bigotry, violence and rape.

Not at all and didn’t mean to trivialise the term but Kane referring to the team needing to be “men” in my opinion is an issue and problematic. Maybe I was a bit hyperbolic but I stand by that

 

[muppetman]

I wonder if the CL final will have a weighting on this. If City miss out again on the prize they want most of all, might that push them to spend the obscene amount of cash Levy will demand?

 

[Tucker]

Jenas on Radio 5 talking about Kane and whether he has it in him to force a move through by being disruptive.

Said that when he was at Spurs, one player forced a move by doing shit like picking up the ball in training, whenever it came near him, and throwing it away (lmfao). I wonder who that was.

Can't be Modric, as he talked about his situation separately and said he was unhappy but trained OK and knuckled down to earn his move to Real.

Not that I think Kane would do anything like that, I was thinking about his situation earlier. Can he really afford to down tools and go on strike? If he’s as keen to break the goal scoring records for England and the premier league, he’ll need to be fit and in form. England have vital World Cup qualifiers coming up next season too, and then the winter World Cup in 2022. Can’t see him jeopardising his form and fitness for those either.

 

[mil1lion]

Only way to make him happy is to replace the players who Mourinho cast out. I have no doubt that Kane blames the players for the failure to win anything under Jose. We're the only team he hasn't won anything with after all. I'm not saying Jose isn't past it because he's not the manager he once was, but I think Kane believed he would win trophies with us.

Either make the changes in the transfer window to align with the goals of Kane, or sell Kane and just continue with players who don't have what it takes to succeed. I would much rather we keep Kane and match his ambition otherwise we will never break the cycle. I said it at the time Jose was here that he was a manager who knows the characteristics required to be winners.

That's one of the positives I had with Jose and I can understand why Kane feels that way too because not enough players have that mindset (Hojbjerg suggested as much too and he was around Bayern Munich so he will understand). The biggest issue with Jose was not being someone who can coach players and build them up. He couldn't do it with Salah and De Bruyne for example and look how good they are now. He needs players already developed. Then of course the style of football which isn't for Spurs.

We need a manager who recognizes what it takes to build a winning mentality within the team, develop the young talent and play expansive attacking football. It's kind of ironic that to do that we may need the Kane money. How crazy it would be if we sold Kane and then won trophies using the money we got for him. The only way to do both (keep Kane and get the players we need) is with a top DOF who doesn't need a player to break out and go up in value. He needs to find them before they break out because we can't afford ready made.

 

[Gspurs11]

Jenas on Radio 5 talking about Kane and whether he has it in him to force a move through by being disruptive.

Said that when he was at Spurs, one player forced a move by doing shit like picking up the ball in training, whenever it came near him, and throwing it away (lmfao). I wonder who that was.

Can't be Modric, as he talked about his situation separately and said he was unhappy but trained OK and knuckled down to earn his move to Real.

Wonder if it was Berbatov?

 

[topper]

Jenas on Radio 5 talking about Kane and whether he has it in him to force a move through by being disruptive.

Said that when he was at Spurs, one player forced a move by doing shit like picking up the ball in training, whenever it came near him, and throwing it away (lmfao). I wonder who that was.

Can't be Modric, as he talked about his situation separately and said he was unhappy but trained OK and knuckled down to earn his move to Real.

Definitely 100% Berbatov

Nah, if that was Berba he would have sat on the ball, got his fags out, and nonchentely blew smoke rings