Feeling Positive Today......

[SpurSince57]

You know what they say about Gooners? That they're seriously retarded numbfucks? Seems it's true.

Let's keep our fingers crossed that this one has been incapable of breeding.

 

[TopSpurMan]

I can't see where the goals are coming from myself especially now that Pav is out. Let's say Bentley regains his form, can then cross ball into Bent - Bent learns how to go to a ball rather than wait for it to arrive and actually gets to a ball before his marker who he gave a 40 yard start to then perhaps and this is just perhaps we may score. But that is the problem I can't see who out goal scorer would be be unless Darren "goal machine" Dent steps up that mark and claims his place in Spur's history.

Look on the bright side our seasons tickets may cost a little less when we are facing Southend!

 

[Rackybear]

Football is football, you really never know what is going to happen!

Based on current form, I cant see us winning a premiership game this season, but football being football, we could well end up losing to stoke and bolton to then go on and beat arsenal and liverpool or vice versa.

I seriously dont know, all we can do is hope something clicks and things start going right for us.

I do also fear we are in a relegation battle.

 

[SpurSince57]

I can't see where the goals are coming from myself especially now that Pav is out. Let's say Bentley regains his form, can then cross ball into Bent - Bent learns how to go to a ball rather than wait for it to arrive and actually gets to a ball before his marker who he gave a 40 yard start to then perhaps and this is just perhaps we may score. But that is the problem I can't see who out goal scorer would be be unless Darren "goal machine" Dent steps up that mark and claims his place in Spur's history.

Look on the bright side our seasons tickets may cost a little less when we are facing Southend!

The lights are on, but the Brain family's gone away on a long, long vacation.

 

[DC_Boy]

I think I worked out in another thread that to achieve the 40 odd points needed to stay in the EPL, we can only afford to lose another 13 games.

[DC knows what I'm going on about - can't be arsed to find the thread right now]

Anyway, considering we have to play the Top 4 SEVEN more times, if we lose to Stoke, what many of us think would be one of our easier challenges (much like Hull at home ), then we are in deeper shite than we are now.

100% argree with DC - if we don't beat Stoke relegation could realistically be on the cards.

yep I remember the thread HT

no need to find it though

if we accept 42 pts as a safety mark

we need 40 more from 31 games

a likely spread is 11 wins 7 draws 13 defeats

of course 12 wins 4 draws 15 defeats is another possible spread, but not so likely I feel

10 10 11 is more possible I reckon

it's all massively hypothetical at this stage - eg normally 40 points gets safety (from memory) - but it's kinda grisly fun to speculate

 

[Bill_Oddie]

In many ways Stoke is a tougher assignment than Liverpool and certainly Arsenal.

Not in terms of quality faced but these two should (Arsenal moreso) create space and actually try to take possession of the football from us. In doing so, our players can find the odd piece of space that will be denied to us when Stoke keep men behind the ball and try to hit us on the break.

We've been bloody clueless thus far against teams set up like this (although Gus and Ramos have admitted they knew all Premiership sides would play like this against us, hence our choice of pre-season oppo), so to have Arsenal and Liverpool together should be a respite of sorts.

Our best game was against Chelsea who didn't sit back, hence we should be optimistic that, as long as we get points on the board against Stoke and Bolton - both of whom will go down, I'm sure - we should be confident of bloodying some noses at the very least.

 

[Bromavinci]

Stoke 2 Spurs 1 and Spurs 1 Bolton 1 ... Relegation, I must admit I will be laughing if we do go down ( sorry I mean it, as I really do ont feel anything for this club anymore... I really pity those fans that waste money in these tight Economic times) I just want to see the reaction on Levy's face ...:grin: Sorry, its only a game and the way things are going at the moment ... 'Look on the bright side of life'

This really fucking pisses me off...Mate answer me this, seriously; If you do not feel anything for this club anymore then why the fuck are you here posting on a SUPPORTERS forum? This is a forum for people who DO feel something for the club. Sure we get people who spout off and vent but thats ok because they SUPPORT the club.

Its fuck knuckles like you (I do believe thats member abuse but I would hope the powers that be forgive this one transgression for the sake of sanity) who post this sort of useless pointless drivel that should just fuck right off and not even bother. If you dont care then FUCK OFF

 

[mil1lion]

I bet we dont get any points against Liverpool though :wink:

Seriously though, i cant get optimistic about Spurs right now. I'll be watching in hope rather than expectation on Sunday. I thought we could beat Hull, or at worst Draw. After that defeat, i have no reason to expect anything good from Spurs as yet. And even if we beat Stoke, theres still alot more damage to be repaired. I think that, if we beat Stoke on Sunday, the fans will feel relief more than satisfaction. How can we possibly be very happy with a win on Sunday? It will be a case of "thank god for that." and "now we need to beat Bolton." And even then, it will still take a couple more wins by the end of November before that optimism is back. We need to win as many games as we've lost before i'm personally going to feel positive about Spurs.

On another note, does anyone think the International break is a good thing or bad thing? We lost to Hull, but we played a lot better in that game than recent weeks. After our performance against Chelsea, the International break seemed to set us back a bit, and we went and lost to Villa. I'm a little worried that the break will have taken the sting out of our performance against Hull, and we may start a bit tentative against Stoke.

I can't see where the goals are coming from myself especially now that Pav is out. Let's say Bentley regains his form, can then cross ball into Bent - Bent learns how to go to a ball rather than wait for it to arrive and actually gets to a ball before his marker who he gave a 40 yard start to then perhaps and this is just perhaps we may score. But that is the problem I can't see who out goal scorer would be be unless Darren "goal machine" Dent steps up that mark and claims his place in Spur's history.

Look on the bright side our seasons tickets may cost a little less when we are facing Southend!

Spurs are usually a Club that has plenty of goalscorers in a season. When the Club finally return to form, there are plenty of goals. For the imediate future, i agree with what you say. Simply because we're so poor at the moment. We couldn't score to save our lives against Hull, despite creating plenty of chances. But there are goalscorers throughout. Be it a Bentley/Bale free-kick. Or Jenas breaking from midfield. Modric or Giovani getting off the mark. An own goal off the arse of a Stoke defender. Anything will do right now. But there are goals in this team when we start playing well.

 

[DC_Boy]

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On another note, does anyone think the International break is a good thing or bad thing? We lost to Hull, but we played a lot better in that game than recent weeks. After our performance against Chelsea, the International break seemed to set us back a bit, and we went and lost to Villa. I'm a little worried that the break will have taken the sting out of our performance against Hull, and we may start a bit tentative against Stoke.
ll.

didn't we lose to villa before the CFC game?

but as to whether the break will help or not - I don't know - but as I posted last week it's a massive bit of luck that it's a a Sunday 4 pm sky game - if it was a sat 3pm game I'd have stoke down as favourites to win

as it stands I think we have about as much chance of winning as them

I think gds won't be ready for stoke after his travels

possibly neither modric or corluka - but maybe corluka has to play - who knows - not me

 

[Jonboy]

Im going on sunday and predicting 2-1 Spurs, aslong as we go 4-4-F*kin-2!

 

[Bromavinci]

which 2 would you suggest? the only 2 we have ?

 

[AngerManagement]

Stoke 2 Spurs 1 and Spurs 1 Bolton 1 ... Relegation, I must admit I will be laughing if we do go down ( sorry I mean it, as I really do ont feel anything for this club anymore... I really pity those fans that waste money in these tight Economic times) I just want to see the reaction on Levy's face ...:grin: Sorry, its only a game and the way things are going at the moment ... 'Look on the bright side of life'

The with all due respect, why do you waste your time frequenting a website thats soul purpose (pretty much) is to discuss the club you no longer feel anything for?

It's a fans forum, you by your own admission are no longer a fan. Surely you have beeter things to do with your time then to engage in discussions over a club you no longer care about.

 

[mil1lion]

didn't we lose to villa before the CFC game?

Unfortunately i still remember it all like a bad dream. It went:

pre-season went win, win, draw, win, win, win, win, win with Darren Bent on fire (In fact i think the home win against Roma was the worst thing that could have happened to us.) Then the season started with an away loss to Boro, a home loss to Sunderland, an away draw with Chelsea resulting in a rey of hope. Then the final day of the transfer window resulting in all our hopes dashed. Then the International break came, followed by a loss to Villa. Then the home draw with Wigan, away loss to Pompey and finally the home loss to Hull. Now an International break again...

 

[DC_Boy]

Unfortunately i still remember it all like a bad dream. It went:

pre-season went win, win, draw, win, win, win, win, win with Darren Bent on fire (In fact i think the home win against Roma was the worst thing that could have happened to us.) Then the season started with an away loss to Boro, a home loss to Sunderland, an away draw with Chelsea resulting in a rey of hope. Then the final day of the transfer window resulting in all our hopes dashed. Then the International break came, followed by a loss to Villa. Then the home draw with Wigan, away loss to Pompey and finally the home loss to Hull. Now an International break again...

apologies million - I'm getting confused with some other season's disastrous start - you are right of course

must admit am getting a bit confused with all these bad starts - was there a recent season where we lost a very early season home game v Villa?

we sure have had some terrible lge septembers recently

 

[mil1lion]

apologies million - I'm getting confused with some other season's disastrous start - you are right of course

must admit am getting a bit confused with all these bad starts - was there a recent season where we lost a very early season home game v Villa?

we sure have had some terrible lge septembers recently

I know, and it always seems to follow from a good pre-season. False hopes maybe? Over confidence? Poor opposition?

Thats a point also actually. I think a lot of us looked at pre-season this year as a good one for competition, including myself. But it didn't work out that way. We were never truly tested against Dortmund or Celtic in Holland. Both were quiete poor really. And Roma were shocking. It didn't help that they were a few weeks behind us in the pre-season either, as the Serie A started a couple of weeks later than the Premier League. So i think we got way too ahead of ourselves.

Hopefully next summer we take some bloody good hidings in pre-season. I think its what we need to start the season off well.

 

[DC_Boy]

I know, and it always seems to follow from a good pre-season. False hopes maybe? Over confidence? Poor opposition?

Thats a point also actually. I think a lot of us looked at pre-season this year as a good one for competition, including myself. But it didn't work out that way. We were never truly tested against Dortmund or Celtic in Holland. Both were quiete poor really. And Roma were shocking. It didn't help that they were a few weeks behind us in the pre-season either, as the Serie A started a couple of weeks later than the Premier League. So i think we got way too ahead of ourselves.

Hopefully next summer we take some bloody good hidings in pre-season. I think its what we need to start the season off well.

good points million - I really give up as to pre-season etc - it seems we **** ourselves whatever we do

last pre-season we picked up that injury to Bale in a low key irish friendly and I think that first injury was key to the three he suffered (pure guess work I admit)

then we lose hutton for months in an even lower key training ground friendly this pre-season - both injuries have done us a lot of damge

I know we have to play pre-season but where who why I jes dunno

the best one in recent years was the peace cup

i was disappointed we didn't play that again - but hey what do I know?

 

[hellava_tough]

good points million - I really give up as to pre-season etc - it seems we **** ourselves whatever we do

last pre-season we picked up that injury to Bale in a low key irish friendly and I think that first injury was key to the three he suffered (pure guess work I admit)

then we lose hutton for months in an even lower key training ground friendly this pre-season - both injuries have done us a lot of damge

I know we have to play pre-season but where who why I jes dunno

the best one in recent years was the peace cup

i was disappointed we didn't play that again - but hey what do I know?

DC, what are you doing in this thread? Get your arse over to the financial discussion - I've got a post-apocolyptic future to plan!!

:grin:

 

[DC_Boy]

DC, what are you doing in this thread? Get your arse over to the financial discussion - I've got a post-apocolyptic future to plan!!

:grin:

ok HT - but if it's Mad Max you're after - you've got the wrong man -

I'd be one of the slightly terrified peeking out of the curtains, and wondering whether it was safe to go down to the local pub before the curfew kicked in

 

[worcestersauce]

The ironic thing is that the "lower" clubs actually do see themselves as "lower" clubs when they come to play us and they do set up accordingly.
If you were to have asked Sunderland, Wigan & Hull if they would have taken a point before the games they would have taken it, whereas against each other they'd have hoped for a win.
What this means is that they raise their game against us as they do against the title contenders unfortunately we are not able to overcome them as the contenders do.
There is therefore hope and that hope is that other teams stop taking us seriously and go for it more.

Another reason for optimism is that in my experience nothing can break down team spirit and cameradery more than a bad run of results and being bottom but nothing does build team spirit and cameradery better than fighting your way out of it together, this means that when we turn the corner and come good (and we will) we will have a better team spirit than anyone else in the English Premier League.

Keep the Faith Bro's

 

[TheBigMatch]

The ironic thing is that the "lower" clubs actually do see themselves as "lower" clubs when they come to play us and they do set up accordingly.
If you were to have asked Sunderland, Wigan & Hull if they would have taken a point before the games they would have taken it, whereas against each other they'd have hoped for a win.
What this means is that they raise their game against us as they do against the title contenders unfortunately we are not able to overcome them as the contenders do.
There is therefore hope and that hope is that other teams stop taking us seriously and go for it more.

Another reason for optimism is that in my experience nothing can break down team spirit and cameradery more than a bad run of results and being bottom but nothing does build team spirit and cameradery better than fighting your way out of it together, this means that when we turn the corner and come good (and we will) we will have a better team spirit than anyone else in the English Premier League.

Keep the Faith Bro's

Pretty much sums up why the next two games are so important.

If we beat Stoke and Bolton (fairy tale stuff at the moment), then a win against arsenal at the emirates is just the type of daft thing that happens in football.