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Flobadob

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Tbf I didn’t actually realise Ferguson was quite so young so yea fair enough I just thought the way people spoke about him on here that he’s the 2nd coming of Wayne Rooney or something.
I kind of agree with you tbh. I really rate Ferguson and he looks like he has everything you’d want an 18 year old to have to turn into a future world class striker, but he’s not actually done the most important thing of all and that’s show he can do those things consistently at the highest level over 90 minutes week in and week out. Once he’s done that then I feel some of the praise he’s gotten so far will be fully deserved. Excellent young player though. Probably the best teenage striker in world football, that I’ve seen anyway
 

Timberwolf

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Tbh Ferguson to Spurs within the next 2 years is almost as unlikely as Mbappe to Spurs.

He's on a long contract at a club that will want upwards of 100m for him given his age, potential, contract length and Brighton being Brighton.

We ain't paying what they're asking anytime soon so, while it's all well and good discussing his merits, it's completely irrelevant to our search for a forward.
 

bbunc

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Tbh Ferguson to Spurs within the next 2 years is almost as unlikely as Mbappe to Spurs.

He's on a long contract at a club that will want upwards of 100m for him given his age, potential, contract length and Brighton being Brighton.

We ain't paying what they're asking anytime soon so, while it's all well and good discussing his merits, it's completely irrelevant to our search for a forward.
Almost certainly will be Haaland’s successor at City
 

spursfan77

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They don’t need the money, I doubt they’d sell and if they were open to it he’d be extortionate. A non starter if ever I’ve seen one.
 

wrd

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If we're talking 60-80 mill, I'm not sure we should be in a rush to spend ridiculous sums on an 18 year old when we have our own 18 year old prodigy who we could develop. Ferguson has shown he can do it because he's been given the opportunity to do so but he needs games to continue to develop and grow. I really don't see why we wouldn't first take a look Dane Scarlett getting involved. People can point to his loans but look at Kane's loans, I wanna judge Scarlett on his ability to play with our players.

I can understand Vlahovic at the amount he is, I can understand Gift Orban at the amount he is, 80 mill at 18 is insane to me, particularly if we'd be integrating him slowly. He may well at Brighton prove an incredible player who we wish we got but it will be because Brighton took the time to develop him. We have talents that are potentially are on a similar trajectory if handled correctly for free.
 

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If we're talking 60-80 mill, I'm not sure we should be in a rush to spend ridiculous sums on an 18 year old when we have our own 18 year old prodigy who we could develop. Ferguson has shown he can do it because he's been given the opportunity to do so but he needs games to continue to develop and grow. I really don't see why we wouldn't first take a look Dane Scarlett getting involved. People can point to his loans but look at Kane's loans, I wanna judge Scarlett on his ability to play with our players.

I can understand Vlahovic at the amount he is, I can understand Gift Orban at the amount he is, 80 mill at 18 is insane to me, particularly if we'd be integrating him slowly. He may well at Brighton prove an incredible player who we wish we got but it will be because Brighton took the time to develop him. We have talents that are potentially are on a similar trajectory if handled correctly for free.
I think they’d be looking for twice that.
 

wrd

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I think they’d be looking for twice that.

I mean that's just ridiculous to me. I thought I'd get some pushback on comparing the potential of Scarlett to Ferguson but I've only seen glimpses of his capability where I can see the potential Scarlett has due to my untrained eye. However both Jose and Conte went out of their way to highlight his capability, so I'm guessing that there isn't that vast a difference between the two and personally, I want to see us take the risk on him this season. We've sold Kane, we've made it clear what sort of season this is, let's actually show ourselves that we don't have to spend ridiculous sums and develop the likes of Divine and Scarlett.

Let's bring back Marcus Edwards too, really fucking Spurs it up :LOL:
 

h2005

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I mean that's just ridiculous to me. I thought I'd get some pushback on comparing the potential of Scarlett to Ferguson but I've only seen glimpses of his capability where I can see the potential Scarlett has due to my untrained eye. However both Jose and Conte went out of their way to highlight his capability, so I'm guessing that there isn't that vast a difference between the two and personally, I want to see us take the risk on him this season. We've sold Kane, we've made it clear what sort of season this is, let's actually show ourselves that we don't have to spend ridiculous sums and develop the likes of Divine and Scarlett.

Let's bring back Marcus Edwards too, really fucking Spurs it up :LOL:
Ferguson is scoring goals already in the premiership. It’s comparing apples and oranges. Scarlett could be decent, we already know that Ferguson is and a little bit more too. It doesn’t matter anyways, we’d never spend the money needed.
 

wrd

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Ferguson is scoring goals already in the premiership. It’s comparing apples and oranges. Scarlett could be decent, we already know that Ferguson is and a little bit more too. It doesn’t matter anyways, we’d never spend the money needed.

But that was entirely my point, I think one of the thing's preventing Scarlett from scoring goals in the premiership is that doesn't get to participate in it.
 

Flobadob

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But that was entirely my point, I think one of the thing's preventing Scarlett from scoring goals in the premiership is that doesn't get to participate in it.
I have to be honest it’s very very clear that Scarlett isn’t anywhere near the level of someone like Ferguson. I think technically speaking in terms of all-round game you’d have an argument if you compared the two as Scarlett has a good touch and is a smart player and he’s also a good finisher but it’s the physical department where the gap really gets big. Ferguson has shown the acceleration, sprint speed, agility and strength to outplay experienced PL defenders, physically he is very impressive and at 18 he’s only going to get much better in that area. Scarlett can match up to him in the technical area’s of the game as he is actually a very good young player technically but he’s not that close to competing physically with PL defenders, I think he’d just about manage in the championship due to his technical level being probably a little better than most strikers at that level. We’re probably going to have to wait until Scarlett is 21 or around that age, a bit like Kane, to develop properly physically before we see what he’s capable of at PL level
 

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If we're talking 60-80 mill, I'm not sure we should be in a rush to spend ridiculous sums on an 18 year old when we have our own 18 year old prodigy who we could develop. Ferguson has shown he can do it because he's been given the opportunity to do so but he needs games to continue to develop and grow. I really don't see why we wouldn't first take a look Dane Scarlett getting involved. People can point to his loans but look at Kane's loans, I wanna judge Scarlett on his ability to play with our players.

I can understand Vlahovic at the amount he is, I can understand Gift Orban at the amount he is, 80 mill at 18 is insane to me, particularly if we'd be integrating him slowly. He may well at Brighton prove an incredible player who we wish we got but it will be because Brighton took the time to develop him. We have talents that are potentially are on a similar trajectory if handled correctly for free.
Your post made me think about this - in today's market, what would Rooney have cost Utd as the 18 year old that joined them?
 

wrd

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I have to be honest it’s very very clear that Scarlett isn’t anywhere near the level of someone like Ferguson. I think technically speaking in terms of all-round game you’d have an argument if you compared the two as Scarlett has a good touch and is a smart player and he’s also a good finisher but it’s the physical department where the gap really gets big. Ferguson has shown the acceleration, sprint speed, agility and strength to outplay experienced PL defenders, physically he is very impressive and at 18 he’s only going to get much better in that area. Scarlett can match up to him in the technical area’s of the game as he is actually a very good young player technically but he’s not that close to competing physically with PL defenders, I think he’d just about manage in the championship due to his technical level being probably a little better than most strikers at that level. We’re probably going to have to wait until Scarlett is 21 or around that age, a bit like Kane, to develop properly physically before we see what he’s capable of at PL level

I think too much emphasis is put on physical development personally, I agree that Scarlett isn't near the level yet but there's a way to accelerate that process and that's participating at the level you're trying to develop to. Some players will always be physically lacking and it's by participating that they learn to find solutions to overcome the deficits. I do appreciate the argument that he can work his way up but I think that it's one of those seasons where perhaps we have an opportunity to accelerate some development in a few players.
 

h2005

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Nominated for PFA young player of the year. That’s probably another 0 that Brighton will be adding on!
 

Danny1

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Yep, when it comes to the best young strikers on the planet, this boy is right up there. 18 years of age and scoring 10 goals in his first season. Very few players of his age are capable of achieving that.

He has a predatory instinct infront of goal and has all the attributes to be a major success. He is also at, pretty much, the perfect club for his development. He doesn't seem a stupid lad, which is why he won't be leaving Brighton any time soon.
 

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120m feels worth it
its easy to think 120m is worth it. ITs easy to think we should just spend it.
this isn't meant as a direct dig at you btw, more at us all as fans.
Its not our money so we always think just spend it, its only (insert amount).

In the vast majority of our lives we would baulk at making expensive purchases when there are cheaper out here. Especially when other things are needed.
As an example, would you buy a top of the range hot tub for the back garden, or repair the leaky shower in your bathroom?

As fans we want (and deserve) the best from tottenham because we love the club and we know we are cash rich. But Levy probably views it differently and in much of a way like the analogy above.
Why spend 120m on one potential generational talent when he can spend 60mil on 3 potentially good players, one of which could repair the leaky defence?
 
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