MassadaTom
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Of cours he thinks big 5 leagues that’s my point.
European Super League Mega Thread
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dudu
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Unless I'm mistaken over 50% of people on here voted that levy should not go now.
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Amo
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Good question. It would have to be staggered, I suspect. Initial rounds decentralised and defered to clubs, with later rounds centralised and equitably distributed.
Would be a good time to set up the Netflix thing.
MassadaTom
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Sl could have playoff early rounds with bottom half of the teams in SL against top teams in national leagues winner takes spot for year, in case of founder loosing they are out for season and than they have to win it in next year play offs.
God ,there is so many ways to make that alternative idea competitive and better than new CL.
God ,there is so many ways to make that alternative idea competitive and better than new CL.
spursfan77
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I agree with Wenger here
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The likes of Real and Juve been envious of the money Premier League generates for years
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So dumb how Spurs and Arsenal went along with helping Perez nuke the Premier League. And The Athletic has a long piece today about how Levy was one of the key advocates of this thing after 2016 (the year Levy was angry for Spurs being snubbed by the ICC). Less "had to accept the invite because Spurs would be left behind" and more "let's get this show on the road and leave everyone else behind."
They could perhaps have two tournaments like they do now. One an FA Cup style free-for-all and another that's more selective and has a lot less games. Maybe those in that one get to enter the other at a later round.
That would make the two competitions distinct and unique unlike now where the Europa League is just a diluted version of the Champions League and the similarities just expose the vast chasm between them.
I was about to say what I've written is all on the basis of three minutes of thought and that those in charge will know better and have more time time to about it. But then Perez and Co took three years on the ESL and look how that turned out.
That could work. Probably need to get rid of the PL teams from the league cup though. I just think that something needs to be done and I think it would be a bit boring to go back to what it used to be. The other way could be to have different phases to let these teams join, so 5th to 7th start at the 3rd. 2nd to 4th in the 4th and the winners in the 5th. Less games for the more successful, although that could create a barrier, but probably not anymore than the extra games being played in the Europa.
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Awesome article in the Athletic today:
theathletic.com
The whole thing is fantastic but I can't paste all of it as too many characters but I'd recommend finding a way to read it: I've copied the Spurs centric aspects of it.
When Spurs take on Manchester City in the League Cup final tomorrow they will be trying to win their first silverware since that same trophy in 2008. Their last league championship was in 1961 and, 60 years on, perhaps it should not come as a surprise that some of the Super League big-hitters were, it is said, attracted more to the idea of involving Daniel Levy, the club’s chairman, than Spurs themselves.
Levy, after all, has championed the idea of a Super League longer than anybody in England’s top division. It made sense to recruit Levy when John W Henry, Liverpool’s owner, started talking seriously with Joel Glazer, his counterpart at Manchester United, about what, ultimately, will be remembered as one of the more infamous episodes in the era of the Premier League.
Abramovich and Mansour never talk to the media. Levy was not considered important enough to take the lead (though nobody was impolite enough to put it that way). Kroenke was not part of the core group, led by United and Madrid in particular, who championed the project. The Glazers have an image problem and do not like going in front of the cameras. And, though it was put to Henry that he should lead from the front, he was not keen either.
As for Spurs, Levy was said to be infuriated when, in 2016, five of the Premier League’s Big Six were invited to meet an executive from the International Champions Cup at London’s Dorchester Hotel. The ICC’s founder was Stephen Ross, the New York real estate developer and Miami Dolphins owner. Spurs did not get the invitation.
More puzzling is what Joe Lewis makes of everything in his position as Tottenham’s majority owner. Lewis, an 84-year-old billionaire, lives as a tax exile in the Bahamas. Yet he has a good relationship of his own with the Americans. At one function in New York, which was to celebrate a television rights deal for NBC and where one of the guests was a British ambassador, guests were struck by how friendly he was with Kroenke and the Glazers, though Spurs sources insist the events are unrelated.
“He was part of that club,” says a source familiar with the Tottenham hierarchy. “He appeared to be part of the group and he is likely to have been in on this.”
Levy, nonetheless, was always the one from Spurs who took part in the negotiations and was most intent on joining what Agnelli is still stubbornly claiming would be “the most beautiful competition in the world”.
Special report: The rise and rapid fall of the 'universally despised' Super League
What happened behind the scenes at Europe's top clubs as their Super League plans were pitched and ripped apart in a matter of days
theathletic.com
The whole thing is fantastic but I can't paste all of it as too many characters but I'd recommend finding a way to read it: I've copied the Spurs centric aspects of it.
When Spurs take on Manchester City in the League Cup final tomorrow they will be trying to win their first silverware since that same trophy in 2008. Their last league championship was in 1961 and, 60 years on, perhaps it should not come as a surprise that some of the Super League big-hitters were, it is said, attracted more to the idea of involving Daniel Levy, the club’s chairman, than Spurs themselves.
Levy, after all, has championed the idea of a Super League longer than anybody in England’s top division. It made sense to recruit Levy when John W Henry, Liverpool’s owner, started talking seriously with Joel Glazer, his counterpart at Manchester United, about what, ultimately, will be remembered as one of the more infamous episodes in the era of the Premier League.
Abramovich and Mansour never talk to the media. Levy was not considered important enough to take the lead (though nobody was impolite enough to put it that way). Kroenke was not part of the core group, led by United and Madrid in particular, who championed the project. The Glazers have an image problem and do not like going in front of the cameras. And, though it was put to Henry that he should lead from the front, he was not keen either.
As for Spurs, Levy was said to be infuriated when, in 2016, five of the Premier League’s Big Six were invited to meet an executive from the International Champions Cup at London’s Dorchester Hotel. The ICC’s founder was Stephen Ross, the New York real estate developer and Miami Dolphins owner. Spurs did not get the invitation.
More puzzling is what Joe Lewis makes of everything in his position as Tottenham’s majority owner. Lewis, an 84-year-old billionaire, lives as a tax exile in the Bahamas. Yet he has a good relationship of his own with the Americans. At one function in New York, which was to celebrate a television rights deal for NBC and where one of the guests was a British ambassador, guests were struck by how friendly he was with Kroenke and the Glazers, though Spurs sources insist the events are unrelated.
“He was part of that club,” says a source familiar with the Tottenham hierarchy. “He appeared to be part of the group and he is likely to have been in on this.”
Levy, nonetheless, was always the one from Spurs who took part in the negotiations and was most intent on joining what Agnelli is still stubbornly claiming would be “the most beautiful competition in the world”.
spursfan77
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Awesome article in the Athletic today:
Special report: The rise and rapid fall of the 'universally despised' Super League
What happened behind the scenes at Europe's top clubs as their Super League plans were pitched and ripped apart in a matter of days
The whole thing is fantastic but I can't paste all of it as too many characters but I'd recommend finding a way to read it: I've copied the Spurs centric aspects of it.
When Spurs take on Manchester City in the League Cup final tomorrow they will be trying to win their first silverware since that same trophy in 2008. Their last league championship was in 1961 and, 60 years on, perhaps it should not come as a surprise that some of the Super League big-hitters were, it is said, attracted more to the idea of involving Daniel Levy, the club’s chairman, than Spurs themselves.
Levy, after all, has championed the idea of a Super League longer than anybody in England’s top division. It made sense to recruit Levy when John W Henry, Liverpool’s owner, started talking seriously with Joel Glazer, his counterpart at Manchester United, about what, ultimately, will be remembered as one of the more infamous episodes in the era of the Premier League.
Abramovich and Mansour never talk to the media. Levy was not considered important enough to take the lead (though nobody was impolite enough to put it that way). Kroenke was not part of the core group, led by United and Madrid in particular, who championed the project. The Glazers have an image problem and do not like going in front of the cameras. And, though it was put to Henry that he should lead from the front, he was not keen either.
As for Spurs, Levy was said to be infuriated when, in 2016, five of the Premier League’s Big Six were invited to meet an executive from the International Champions Cup at London’s Dorchester Hotel. The ICC’s founder was Stephen Ross, the New York real estate developer and Miami Dolphins owner. Spurs did not get the invitation.
More puzzling is what Joe Lewis makes of everything in his position as Tottenham’s majority owner. Lewis, an 84-year-old billionaire, lives as a tax exile in the Bahamas. Yet he has a good relationship of his own with the Americans. At one function in New York, which was to celebrate a television rights deal for NBC and where one of the guests was a British ambassador, guests were struck by how friendly he was with Kroenke and the Glazers, though Spurs sources insist the events are unrelated.
“He was part of that club,” says a source familiar with the Tottenham hierarchy. “He appeared to be part of the group and he is likely to have been in on this.”
Levy, nonetheless, was always the one from Spurs who took part in the negotiations and was most intent on joining what Agnelli is still stubbornly claiming would be “the most beautiful competition in the world”.
Im still confused how from ENIC’s benefit they thought joining the league was a good idea. Unless they thought joining it would help them getting a larger price should they put us up for sale. 23 years of guaranteed income would make us pretty desirable to quite a few purchasers I suspect.
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You are, I would think, mistaken. I haven't voted on anything and I suspect the majority of people who use this site haven't either.
Perhaps over 50% of the people who did vote chose that option, but it really is not indicative of anything except that the people who voted chose to do so.
dudu
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Fair and you're making my point for me. No one has consulted all spurs fans or taken a proper poll to see what the feeling is.
wrd
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Well if I was to try and see it from Levy's perspective, I think that he has an obsession with making Spurs one of the elite clubs of football - his reason for doing that will change depending on which user you ask but regardless of the reasons behind I think it's a fair assumption to say he is obsessed with making Spurs one of the elite clubs of football. Which is why he gets a lot of backing from us typically because we share a similar obsession of wanting to see Spurs being one of the elite clubs in football.
This is where I think the conflict between supporters and owners come through because as Levy found out this week, the vast majority of Spurs fans want to become an elite club through sporting merit and Levy simply failed to take that into account, so in his eyes he probably thought he was doing exactly what the fans wanted. I'd probably argue this has always been the disconnect between the owners and the fans because they believe they share the same desire as the fans but ENIC seem to ignore the part of it which would be done through sporting merit which is why we have time and time again seen the aspects which directly affect our possibility to compete on the pitch have significantly less investment than the aspects off the pitch.
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But that's how votes are judged......by those votes that are cast, not by those that aren't!
It's also worth pointing out that what you say about the vote on here could just as easily be said about the THST vote.
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Yes, agreed. But that wasn't the point...
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I see David Moyes is calling for Rangers and Celtic to join the EPL. How is that any different to the big 6 joining a mid-week super league? It would kill football in Scotland. It would make a mockery of the football pyramid to shoe-horn the 2 Scottish clubs into the EPL, I presume at the cost of the Championship clubs (and then a knock on effect down the pyramid).
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This is something that crops up fairly regularly, any serious discussion would be open, between all clubs, with the blessing of the footballing authorities and clubs would have the option to vote yea or nay. In other words there'd be a choice, not a mutiny. Apart from that...........
You're right though, it would shit all over football in Scotland, its wrong it shouldn't happen and lets be honest, it won't. Moyes is an Ozil eyed dickhead.
