European Super League Mega Thread

[MassadaTom]

Probably. But you know what... I'm not actually convinced that a sporting organisation should have a greater legal reach than a country's (or union of countries) government, or indeed that it does so.

Maybe if FIFA threw together a manifesto outlining their plans for the improvement of my country and entered a few candidates in elections I'd think differently, but as it stands the idea of a sporting organisation holding more sway than a government (yes, even a shit one like...oh I don't know, ours) on anything is pretty abhorrent, and although I am admittedly no expert on legal matters I very much doubt that if it came to a court case any judgement would rule in favour of FIFA law (which is basically just some rules they jotted down) over a government, whose laws are actually real ones (even if they are crap ones).

I think that you missing the point, Fifa laws are not really laws per se, they are rules that you need to abode if you want to take part in fifa/uefa competition. That's all. Government involvement will end in English team being ban from all fifa/uefa competition. Ban can then be challenged in arbitration sport court in Europe so outside reach of UK Parliament. Sure Premier league brexit could be a goal of government but then why oppose sl in first place.

 

[pffft]

I think that you missing the point, Fifa laws are not really laws per se, they are rules that you need to abode if you want to take part in fifa/uefa competition. That's all. Government involvement will end in English team being ban from all fifa/uefa competition. Ban can then be challenged in arbitration sport court in Europe so outside reach of UK Parliament. Sure Premier league brexit could be a goal of government but then why oppose sl in first place.

No, I got the point mate, but I appreciate you taking the time to explain it, which would have been extremely helpful if you hadn't completely missed the point of my post.

 

[Bobbins]

So cringe going on social media at the moment and seeing all these twerps writing stuff like "We won! Football belongs to the fans again!"

FFS you dingbats, the fans have won fuck all except the right to be once again entirely at the mercy of their chosen clubs, to pay through the nose for tickets, to have matchdays cost a week's wages, to have absolutely no say in how their club or the wider game is run.

I'm seeing it everywhere and it's laughably pathetic.

 

[PLTuck]

So cringe going on social media at the moment and seeing all these twerps writing stuff like "We won! Football is owned by the fans again! The fans won!"

FFS you dingbats, the fans have won fuck all except the right to be once again entirely at the mercy of their chosen clubs, to pay through the nose for tickets, to have matchdays cost a week's wages, to have absolutely no say in how their club or the wider game is run.

I'm seeing it everywhere and it's laughably pathetic.

Fans, media, ex players, current players etc won the battle. The war has only just started (hopefully). It's vital that people now follow through for more fundamental changes.

 

[JCRD]

So cringe going on social media at the moment and seeing all these twerps writing stuff like "We won! Football belongs to the fans again!"

FFS you dingbats, the fans have won fuck all except the right to be once again entirely at the mercy of their chosen clubs, to pay through the nose for tickets, to have matchdays cost a week's wages, to have absolutely no say in how their club or the wider game is run.

I'm seeing it everywhere and it's laughably pathetic.

I find it cringeworthy - talksport last night was cringeworthy

We havent won shit

 

[MassadaTom]

No, I got the point mate, but I appreciate you taking the time to explain it, which would have been extremely helpful if you hadn't completely missed the point of my post.

You said:
Probably. But you know what... I'm not actually convinced that a sporting organisation should have a greater legal reach than a country's (or union of countries) government, or indeed that it does so.
My answer:it does not. Actually it has no legal reach at all.

 

[PLTuck]

I trust every single poster on SC that is currently asking for fundamental changes to the game have cancelled their sky sports?

Be part of the solution, not part of the problem.

 

[jonnyrotten]

I thought the mood would be happier but a lot of people seem to be preferring to dig out fans for celebrating or have a go at Gary Neville - yep its all his fault! Sad.

 

[yojambo]

Still can't stop thinking about how aghast Gary Neville was about the thought of franchise football when he literally bought a club with a billionaire and changed the club colours from orange to red.

 

[dudu]

Now if we could all get as angry about bigotry in any form, poverty and climate change please.

Ta.

Yeah I'm wondering how many feeling so passionate about this are going to boycott the upcoming World Cup

 

[dudu]

Full disclosure, I'm beyond glad this whole ESL fiasco has gone tits up.

However, I find it sickening that this created more of a fuss and generated far more outrage than the reports of Qatar essentially using slave labour to the point of killing workers when building stadiums for the 2022 World Cup.

I don't blame fans for this as I think the level of outrage can be at least partly managed by the media and it's so blatantly obvious in this case that Sky + others drove a huge amount of the outrage because it threatened their bottom line.

It just can't be right though that footballing competition is treated more seriously by governments, pundits, football organisations and fans than the deaths of hundreds of people.

Thousands.

 

[PLTuck]

Yeah I'm wondering how many feeling so passionate about this are going to boycott the upcoming World Cup

I'm in. I'm having nothing to do with Murderers 2022. I dont think I could bare to watch it knowing that those lush stadiums are built on the deaths of what is it? 3,500 people?

 

[pffft]

You said:
Probably. But you know what... I'm not actually convinced that a sporting organisation should have a greater legal reach than a country's (or union of countries) government, or indeed that it does so.
My answer:it does not. Actually it has no legal reach at all.

Yes, I know what we both said.
Again, I appreciate your reply and attempt at clarification, but...you still haven't quite caught hold of the point I was making, which is pretty much that it doesn't really matter if anything breaks FIFA law BECAUSE it has no legal reach. Maybe I should have just said that in the first place.

Enjoy the rest of your day

 

[dudu]

I'm in. I'm having nothing to do with Murderers 2022. I dont think I could bare to watch it knowing that those lush stadiums are built on the deaths of what is it? 3,500 people?

Upwards of 6500 I've read

 

[tototoner]

 

[MassadaTom]

Yes, I know what we both said.
Again, I appreciate your reply and attempt at clarification, but...you still haven't quite caught hold of the point I was making, which is pretty much that it doesn't really matter if anything breaks FIFA law BECAUSE it has no legal reach. Maybe I should have just said that in the first place.

Enjoy the rest of your day

Hey sorry I kind got hang on fifa vs government laws and kinda missed you point.

 

[Yiddo100]

Lol, they’d do it all again in an instant if they knew they’d get away with it

 

[GMI]

I trust every single poster on SC that is currently asking for fundamental changes to the game have cancelled their sky sports?

Be part of the solution, not part of the problem.

I’m proud to say I genuinely cancelled Sky two weeks ago. Sadly it wasn’t a moral step to push change in the sport....but rather watching Spurs was burning my eyes and I couldn’t justifying the cost for ruining my weekends in this climate.?
True story.
That said, I’ll be in the Match Thread tonight and I hope there will be a positive vibe with Mason in charge until the end of the season.

 

[hellava_tough]

I’m proud to say I genuinely cancelled Sky two weeks ago. Sadly it wasn’t a moral step to push change in the sport....but rather watching Spurs was burning my eyes. True story.

I've only watched the Marine game this season; streamed on i-player.

Obviously the pubs have been closed (kind of) and I don't have a subscription to Sky, etc. I've listened to most of the games on the radio; BBC Radio London is 100% better than 5-Live.

I really want the PL to create their own football Netflix, with all the games on it.

The dumb muppets would make so much money if that happened and the need for a Super League (well, for English clubs) wouldn't exist.

And they could even afford to lower ticket prices in the grounds.

 

[easley91]

For anyone interested THFC Supporters Trust co-chairman Martin Cloake is meant to be on Channel 5 news soon.