European Super League Mega Thread

[SpartanSpur]

Been some positive developments today (Pep, Ceferin appeal to PL clubs, Govt involvement, Visas, PL meeting, Henderson gathering PL captains) but that Trix info, coupled with Perez' brash interview and Neville's comments about Joel Glazer do make me fear the worst. Money always wins.

 

[Gingernut]

No way the clubs have gone for this with the intention of backing down.

The fallout would be all for nothing.

as Trix said - they are all prepared and they knew this would happen - us fans are sacrificial to them

 

[PLTuck]

Good to see that Klopp has stood by his principles. ?

Would love it if Pep said fuck this I'm out and bought out his contract.

 

[Pathfinder]

Boycotts, not buying tickets, merchandise, not subscribing to SKY etc should have been done when Chelsea were taken over. It is too little too late now. The game has been broke for too long and even the cancellation of the super league won't make things better as the new Champions league format is a shambles and that will probably get adapted so it effectively becomes a super league anyway.

People keep blaming these owners for greed but fans are just as much to blame. They could have prevented the rot a lot earlier. People keep demanding better players, criticise Levy for not spending money etc.

Fans, pundits, sky, need to have a good look at the mirror before going on their high horse.

I agree that the decline started a long time ago and that the governing/concerning football associations should have acted before. But if fans don't act now then when will they? If not now then never, and elite football will decline even more. Just because it's bad now just not justify not taking any action to prevent it from getting even worse.
Yes, the new CL set-up is a shamble but still a better option than this new super league.
Besides, though I do not support the way the EPL/football allowed Abramovich' money (or any other investor in any other club for that sake) to buy Chelski their success, as a club owner he's shown much more passion and interest in "his" clubs than Spurs owner Joe Lewis has.

 

[stov]

I don't believe this is true at all mate. Empty stadiums is going to equal one boring fucking product. There is a reason Americans and Chinese watch our league (and La Liga and Serie A) instead of their own, and it goes beyond just a few star players. They buy into the history, the culture and the passion that takes generations to build. If we stop fans getting in those stadiums then that allusion is broken.

This may well be true, but I don't think the break away clubs see this.

They believe the global revenues and guaranteed income will more than replace the stadium and legacy fans (that's what we have been reduced to) revenue.

 

[LeSoupeKitchen]

Is the UK market really that insignificant?

When I've lived overseas I've been able to watch so much more football for not much money.

I'm almost having to remortgage here to have sky and bt and go to games.

 

[Aleks]

Leicester won the Premier League more recently than three of the big six.

Well I know that, they are called the big six because of the size and money of the clubs.

By lower teams I meant 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc. division teams.

 

[OpenHeartZoo]

I feel like the super league could actually benefit the whole of football, I do not listen to criticism coming from the mouth of anyone associated with sky sports, BT or Uefa

You just listen to trustworthy folks like the Glazers, Abramovich and Perez then? Give me strength.

Perez just came out and said "football is a business that doesn't make money." And you believe a fucking word that comes out of his mouth? It doesn't make money if you voluntarily pay your players far more than you can afford to, no. Run your club as a business and it'll make a shit tonne of money.

 

[Matthew]

Sorry mate. Just because it was asked several times yesterday evening before you asked and if I remember correctly the links were then shared.

well if it was i must of glossed past them without clicking, but wasnt asking merely to take the piss.

 

[Shadydan]

Well the evidence is there by the universal disdain for the project and the out of touch comments from super league president Florentino Perez. What was the evidence for it ever actually being a success and not just a massive gamble?

That's not evidence at all lol, that's purely a statement that you've taken and spun and formed your own narrative, you don't have evidence that it will fail nor do I have evidence that it will succeed, you just got to wait it out like everyone else - Even if it does not take of how would the move have fucked the club forever?

 

[Stalterinho]

Is the UK market really that insignificant?

When I've lived overseas I've been able to watch so much more football for not much money.

I'm almost having to remortgage here to have sky and bt and go to games.

The posturing from sky sports that football is a working man's game is actually laughable, they don't like the ESL because less money for them, they do not care about the fans of that much I'm certain

 

[C0YS]

So essentially the same as Shef Utd Vs Burnley in the prem league

Yeah exactly, so you're going to have a lot of games with little interest and viewing figures and this replaces the CL. I don't see how replacing a tournament with pretty constant jeopardy with a slog overlong competition would turn fixtures historically exciting into the shef utd v Burnley.

 

[John48]

Not sure what the Prem's that worried about because the 6 still intend playing in it & because the 6 will be playing in the ESL there'll be places available for other teams in the Euro competitions.

 

[yawa]

Is the UK market really that insignificant?

When I've lived overseas I've been able to watch so much more football for not much money.

I'm almost having to remortgage here to have sky and bt and go to games.

I believe 50% of revenue approx for tv rights comes from overseas. Of course a much larger market to grow than the uk where you basically have 2 companies competing for tv rights.

 

[Gingernut]

I don't believe this is true at all mate. Empty stadiums is going to equal one boring fucking product. There is a reason Americans and Chinese watch our league (and La Liga and Serie A) instead of their own, and it goes beyond just a few star players. They buy into the history, the culture and the passion that takes generations to build. If we stop fans getting in those stadiums then that allusion is broken.

I'm not sure I agree with the reason you state. Having lived in Asia for a number of years - primarily it is about the teams who win the most or have the best players that are the attraction - not many I met would know about the history of any club. They'll happily swop teams if their favourite star play swops teams.

 

[LSUY]

I feel like the super league could actually benefit the whole of football, I do not listen to criticism coming from the mouth of anyone associated with sky sports, BT or Uefa

How? Please explain how Leicester and West Ham potentially finishing above Chelsea, Liverpool, Spurs, and Arsenal but still being denied a seat at the top table benefits football. Imagine if after the 2016 Euros qualifying UEFA turned around to Northern Ireland and said 'congrats on a successful campaign but we're giving your spot to Holland instead'. The super league benefits no one but those involved in it.

 

[chas vs dave]

@Gardham90 @chas vs dave how is this spam? by asking a question?

Did I spam something? Apologies, finger trouble

 

[Stalterinho]

You just listen to trustworthy folks like the Glazers, Abramovich and Perez then? Give me strength.

Perez just came out and said "football is a business that doesn't make money." And you believe a fucking word that comes out of his mouth? It doesn't make money if you voluntarily pay your players far more than you can afford to, no. Run your club as a business and it'll make a shit tonne of money.

If teams like Madrid didn't have the best players and they wernt an elite team, it would mean less eyes on there domestic leagues, meaning less revenue for the lower teams of those leagues

 

[TheRevolution]

That's not evidence at all lol, that's purely a statement that you've taken and spun and formed your own narrative, you don't have evidence that it will fail nor do I have evidence that it will succeed, you just got to wait it out like everyone else - Even if it does not take of how would the move have fucked the club forever?

So if there's no evidence that it will fail/succeed we can admit that it was a massive gamble? How is that good business from Levy?

Also I would argue that is evidence. Nobody wants this product lol.

 

[Amo]

I feel like the super league could actually benefit the whole of football, I do not listen to criticism coming from the mouth of anyone associated with sky sports, BT or Uefa

How about if they came from the mouth of a really cute meme cat?