rossdapep
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True but people often say they are bored of CL anyway.
European Super League Mega Thread
- Thread starter Saoirse
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LeParisien
Wrong about everything
- Mar 5, 2018
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The countries play in UEFA and FIFA tournaments. Also the national football federations are all against this move.
MassadaTom
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BTW European basketball did exactly the same leaving ibf and starting their own league and won.
EastLondonYid
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This is one huge fucking mess.
And we thought VAR was ruining the game.
And we thought VAR was ruining the game.
BuryMeInEngland
Polish that cock lads
- May 24, 2012
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I can hardly wait to see Tottenham get beat every week by the likes of RM, Barcelona, Juventus etc. Shit, it will make boring draws against Arsenal something to look forward to.
pffft
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Still have a lot of pages to get through in this thread, but there is something I want to address.
There have been plenty of people saying that they will be done with Spurs and/or football completely if this goes ahead. And there have been several posts saying that these people are talking bollocks. I want to address this latter group.
Many of us have been becoming increasingly disillusioned with football over a long period, and this is exactly why. This has been coming for at least three decades, and many people have seen it coming. Football is not football any more, it's just another money-making exercise for the greedy few. Football stopped being about sport a long time ago, it stopped being about the fans a long time ago. It doesn't give many of us what it used to.
Putting morals to one side for a moment- and there will be a LOT of people who genuinely will walk away from either Spurs or football as a whole purely on moral issues- why would anybody think people would stick with something they no longer have a connection to just because they have a lifetime of commitment to it? Would the majority of people stay in a marriage that had gone extremely sour purely because that marriage had lasted for decades? Football has become a one-sided abusive relationship. It is no longer about the fans, the sport or even the clubs- it's about a handful of greedy people abusing the folk who love the game for monetary and/or political gain, and no more than that.
Now, maybe some of you can live with what football has become. Maybe some of you weren't around back when there was a genuine connection between a club and its supporters. Maybe some of you are absolutely fine with this, or more than that, this is something that you actively want. And that's great, you're allowed to be. It's your choice, and so far I haven't seen anybody tell you otherwise. But if you genuinely believe that vast numbers of people won't be walking away from their club/the game because of this, which is a pretty huge final straw, then your belief is misguided and wrong. I would suggest that what you really mean is that you can't see any way that your support would wane, your interest die or your love end and are therefore incapable of understanding that other people don't hold the club/the game as dear as you do. But for many of us, no matter how important Spurs and football have been in our lives, the love has been dying for a while, and the end of the relationship is upon us.
So please stop telling people that they are not going to do what they say they are. You'r probably right about a few of them, but the majority...I believe them. Because I am just about done with football and with Spurs, and I'm pretty certain if this super league goes ahead that will be the end of my involvement with the game. The same way that if the club I have supported my whole life was to be bought by people who have made their money from slavery or murder it would instantly bring about the end of my involvement with the club. Some people might be fine with those things, some people aren't. Just because you can't understand another viewpoint does not mean that viewpoint is invalid, or that the people who hold it will not be true to themselves and their moral beliefs.
tl;dr People WILL walk away from the club and the game. You may not, but don't judge everybody else by your own position.
There have been plenty of people saying that they will be done with Spurs and/or football completely if this goes ahead. And there have been several posts saying that these people are talking bollocks. I want to address this latter group.
Many of us have been becoming increasingly disillusioned with football over a long period, and this is exactly why. This has been coming for at least three decades, and many people have seen it coming. Football is not football any more, it's just another money-making exercise for the greedy few. Football stopped being about sport a long time ago, it stopped being about the fans a long time ago. It doesn't give many of us what it used to.
Putting morals to one side for a moment- and there will be a LOT of people who genuinely will walk away from either Spurs or football as a whole purely on moral issues- why would anybody think people would stick with something they no longer have a connection to just because they have a lifetime of commitment to it? Would the majority of people stay in a marriage that had gone extremely sour purely because that marriage had lasted for decades? Football has become a one-sided abusive relationship. It is no longer about the fans, the sport or even the clubs- it's about a handful of greedy people abusing the folk who love the game for monetary and/or political gain, and no more than that.
Now, maybe some of you can live with what football has become. Maybe some of you weren't around back when there was a genuine connection between a club and its supporters. Maybe some of you are absolutely fine with this, or more than that, this is something that you actively want. And that's great, you're allowed to be. It's your choice, and so far I haven't seen anybody tell you otherwise. But if you genuinely believe that vast numbers of people won't be walking away from their club/the game because of this, which is a pretty huge final straw, then your belief is misguided and wrong. I would suggest that what you really mean is that you can't see any way that your support would wane, your interest die or your love end and are therefore incapable of understanding that other people don't hold the club/the game as dear as you do. But for many of us, no matter how important Spurs and football have been in our lives, the love has been dying for a while, and the end of the relationship is upon us.
So please stop telling people that they are not going to do what they say they are. You'r probably right about a few of them, but the majority...I believe them. Because I am just about done with football and with Spurs, and I'm pretty certain if this super league goes ahead that will be the end of my involvement with the game. The same way that if the club I have supported my whole life was to be bought by people who have made their money from slavery or murder it would instantly bring about the end of my involvement with the club. Some people might be fine with those things, some people aren't. Just because you can't understand another viewpoint does not mean that viewpoint is invalid, or that the people who hold it will not be true to themselves and their moral beliefs.
tl;dr People WILL walk away from the club and the game. You may not, but don't judge everybody else by your own position.
goughie1966
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The Euro's can still go ahead without the players from the ESL hopefully. And the teams who have just got through to the semi's can be replaced by the teams they knocked out. All sorted
shelfboy68
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- Jun 14, 2008
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At first maybe but the level of competition should improve us as a team playing stronger teams on a regular basis.
hellava_tough
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The Champions League should be 16 teams; 4 groups of 4.
Winners go into the semi-finals (home and away legs), followed by the final.
6 to 9 games.
Job's a good 'un
Winners go into the semi-finals (home and away legs), followed by the final.
6 to 9 games.
Job's a good 'un
Indisguise
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What we'll be is the Super League's Sheffield Utd.
LSUY
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- Jul 12, 2005
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How dare European competitions be open to all European countries. They should be limited to rich European countries. In fact, they should be limited to rich football teams in rich European countries.
mil1lion
This is the place to be
- May 7, 2004
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90k capacity on the other side of London vs 62k in Tottenham
EastLondonYid
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This is disgusting, immoral,mercanary and will pull the heart out of the game.
But don't be fooled by the other 14 prem clubs
They are pissed because their left out.
Don't trust any of these guys to have a sense of morality.
All cut throat, dog eat dog .
But don't be fooled by the other 14 prem clubs
They are pissed because their left out.
Don't trust any of these guys to have a sense of morality.
All cut throat, dog eat dog .
chas vs dave
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- Jul 17, 2008
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I had to switch off the radio when I heard man city fans complain about it being an unearned grab for power.
Do they even listen to themselves?
Do they even listen to themselves?
Spartanspurs
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- Jul 2, 2013
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Oh that's inevitable. I expect the other 11 teams to walk away unscathed and us to be forced to rehire Sherwood, Jose and Graham to manage us again as a team.
