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chileanspursfan

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According to MARCA.COM, there were scouts from Tottenham and Man Utd. assessing Carlos Kameni performance against Valencia at Montjuic last weekend.

It is interesting to notice some of the comments from the fans about a potential move from the Cameroon international to White Hart Lane. Most of them agree in that it would be a dream move for him and that he deserves it, despite being in excellent form for "Los Periquitos"

More interesting is one comment from a Deportivo fan who claims that Juande Ramos should instead focus his attention towards Julian De Guzman, who he rates as the "best in the world in his position" (DM).

Could this guy be a useful addition to our midfield? A new, better version of Zokora?

This are his numbers for the present season: his tally/team total

Total shots: 17/?
Shots on goal: 2/145
Turnovers: 92/1786
Recovered possession of the ball: 159/1399
Fouls: 44/444
Fouls against: 33/480

It's interesting to see how this player was responsible for over 10% of the team's total recoveries of possession.
For his position, he seems pretty accurate with his passing, doesn't have many yellow cards, no red card at all as well.
His shot rate seems below par though, but still 2 shots on goal is better than Zokora's 0.
 

davros

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It's interesting to see how this player was responsible for over 10% of the team's total recoveries of possession.
For his position, he seems pretty accurate with his passing, doesn't have many yellow cards, no red card at all as well.
His shot rate seems below par though, but still 2 shots on goal is better than Zokora's 0.

I don't know how many games this chap has played, or what system they play, or how these numbers are taken, but wouldn't you expect your DM to be responsible for more than 10% of your team's recoveries of posession?
 

chileanspursfan

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I agree that judging a player based only in stats is a bit unfair and not precisely objective, and that this categories may be a bit limited and confusing. But in the same category, as a reference, Poulsen from Sevilla has 107/1399 of the total recoveries of possession for his team.

I have to admit as well that I am suspicious about the accuracy of the statistical information provided by marca.
 

clarryboy

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I saw the match on TV and Kameni would have impressed the Spurs scouts in particular.

Everything that he was expected to do, he did well.
Granted, Valencia in their poor run of form weren't the toughest of opponents but I thought at times the game was too easy for him.

You can see the lad has alot of confidence in his own ability. Valencia were largely restricted to shots from outside the area which didn't bother Kameni one bit.

At times he wasn't even positioned properly but he didn't need to because he got across his goal so quickly and every shot stuck. He never spilled anything.

I'm sure there's a crazy streak in him somewhere but I'm looking forward to seeing more of him.

Sources have his get out clause at 4.5m which doesn't sound like alot of money in today's market. Hell, we could even recoup that from Robbo's sale alone and when you think of it as a straight swap, Kameni for Robbo, it's great business.
 

spurs4europe

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I saw the match on TV and Kameni would have impressed the Spurs scouts in particular.

Everything that he was expected to do, he did well.
Granted, Valencia in their poor run of form weren't the toughest of opponents but I thought at times the game was too easy for him.

You can see the lad has alot of confidence in his own ability. Valencia were largely restricted to shots from outside the area which didn't bother Kameni one bit.

At times he wasn't even positioned properly but he didn't need to because he got across his goal so quickly and every shot stuck. He never spilled anything.
I'm sure there's a crazy streak in him somewhere but I'm looking forward to seeing more of him.

Sources have his get out clause at 4.5m which doesn't sound like alot of money in today's market. Hell, we could even recoup that from Robbo's sale alone and when you think of it as a straight swap, Kameni for Robbo, it's great business.

thanks for the report. i've seen clips of him, and that whilst a fantastic shot stopper, he can be a little erratic.
my main question is though is what is he like on crosses?
am i correct in saying that a lot more more balls are whipped in to the area in the PL than La Liga?

I remember when reina came to liverpool, he already looked a fantastic shot stopper but was so suspect on crosses that there were rumours that pool wanted to get rid of him.
 

johnmc

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Kameni who I admit I have not seen a lot of, sounds like another Bruce Grobbelaar in the making. It would be entertaining to say the least. The bit about not being positioned properly might be a cause for concern, as is the little bit erratic comment. I really was hoping for someone rock solid in most departments, especially on crosses, Time will tell I suppose.
 

jerseyspur

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I don't know how many games this chap has played, or what system they play, or how these numbers are taken, but wouldn't you expect your DM to be responsible for more than 10% of your team's recoveries of posession?

Not that impressive really considering that there are 10 OUTFIELD players...?! (100/10 = 10%)

For a DM, i agree, i would've expected that % to be higher...!

On Kameni, he's a top shot stopper, but has rushes of blood similar to that of Barthez...he can be a maniac! Personally, i would go 4 the Ajax keeper if anybody... (whose name i can't spell!)
 

Spursking

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Kameni would be a great signing for us. He is young and a very good goalkeeper to build around for the future.
 

Marty

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He's 24 and has 4 years of La Liga experience. Not exactly a 'youngster', although he is a few years off the normal peak age for keepers.

I'm still worried about his aerial ability coming for crosses...

Plus, as he's African, he will miss at least a full month every other season due to the ACN, which is the main reason for why I don't want to buy players from Africa until they make it a summer tournament.
 

michaelden

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From SSN

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3237219,00.html

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Spurs in Kameni talks - reports

Reports claim Tottenham have made their move


Reports in Spain claim Tottenham have opened talks with Espanyol goalkeeper Carlos Kameni.

The highly-rated Cameroon shot-stopper is being watched by a host of clubs and the Barcelona-based club are bracing themselves for bids.
Spurs number two Gus Poyet has already confirmed that his club are interested in Kameni and now reports in Catalunya say the North London club have made their move.
The news comes after Manchester United watched Espanyol at the weekend, with Kameni the reported target for chief scout Martin Ferguson.
Espanyol have and are still denying any official contact has been made, but they are yet to tie the player down to a new contract with his current deal set to expire next year.
Tottenham, who have also been linked to Scott Carson in the last week or so, are seemingly set to move for a new goalkeeper with neither Paul Robinson or Radek Cerny impressing new coach Juande Ramos since he took charge
 

clarryboy

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Not sure about the accuracy of reports cos some quarters have suggested we've also done a deal for Amelia but at 4.5m we can't really go wrong, can we?

I just hope that, if he comes, he starts really well cos the knives will be out if people see that he's not much of an improvement from Robbo or that he's not the finished article that we'd hoped for.

It'd be ideal if he could be bedded in slowly over the course of six to twelve months just to get him used to the language and style of play cos if he makes a poor start it's going to be hard to recover.

I've said before that if we could get in a senior keeper like Jaaskelainen or Sorensen on a short term deal with the offer of games early on in the contract then we've got the GK position sorted.

Kameni's only young, 24. If we do everything right with him, he could serve us well over the next ten years. With Ramos at the helm, there's a good chance of that happening.
 

padgateyids

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i would perosnally prefer Amelia form livorno whos is a safer option than Kameni who looked a bit dodgy in the ACN like many of the african goalkeepers in that tournament
 

nickspurs

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Not sure how it can be accurate as unless we've been given permission to speak to the player by the club and they say this ain't the case. I thought we tried to do things by the book these days (ish).

Mind you we tapped up a manager in Spain...
 

Juande

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Not sure how it can be accurate as unless we've been given permission to speak to the player by the club and they say this ain't the case. I thought we tried to do things by the book these days (ish).

Mind you we tapped up a manager in Spain...


its from SSN its utter bollocks
 

Mattspur

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Kamini would be a step back. If he comes, Robbo will be No1 by the end of the season. I really don't rate this guy.

The Italian form Livorno would be a much better option.

And I wouldn't want that keeper from Ajax either. He to would be a step back.
 

Juande

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Agreed, here and now!

But Kameni could be that guy. :)


True every player we sign could be the guy, but imo i think Amelia at Livorno is a better keeper, but with the amount of keepers we have been linked with. we will probably end up with Booby Mimms, or worse Kevin Dearden
 
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