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Ernest Nuamah

talkshowhost86

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Oct 2, 2004
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I'm not quite sure how you can say there's no plan when every one (including Ange) is saying we need to trim the squad first before incomings.

We've probably lined up a few deals to be able to pull the trigger if we get the players out that we need to get out. But we can't just keep on signing players with all the deadwood mulling around.

I assume we inquired about both Gift and Ernest and thought the price is too high for unproven talents (which I agree with), but those inquiries were escalated by dubious reporters on Twitter and as people do, they got overly attached to both.
We hear this season after season under Levy though.

The 'deadwood' argument.

I just find it hard to believe that we've had no offers for these players (other than N'Dombele).

What I can believe is that we continue to 'drive a hard bargain' which effectively means waiting until the last week of the window and losing out on our targets in the meantime.

I'm far from a life-long Levy basher. In fact I've spent a lot of time on here defending him.

But he's shit at transfer windows...there's not really much evidence otherwise IMO.
 

Sputic

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Jun 17, 2005
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We hear this season after season under Levy though.

The 'deadwood' argument.

I just find it hard to believe that we've had no offers for these players (other than N'Dombele).

What I can believe is that we continue to 'drive a hard bargain' which effectively means waiting until the last week of the window and losing out on our targets in the meantime.

I'm far from a life-long Levy basher. In fact I've spent a lot of time on here defending him.

But he's shit at transfer windows...there's not really much evidence otherwise IMO.
He needs to set a budget and leave it to someone else to be responsible for negotiations.

Where's our DOF?
 

SandroClegane

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Jun 27, 2012
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We hear this season after season under Levy though.

The 'deadwood' argument.

I just find it hard to believe that we've had no offers for these players (other than N'Dombele).

What I can believe is that we continue to 'drive a hard bargain' which effectively means waiting until the last week of the window and losing out on our targets in the meantime.

I'm far from a life-long Levy basher. In fact I've spent a lot of time on here defending him.

But he's shit at transfer windows...there's not really much evidence otherwise IMO.
We haven't bought before we sold in the past though. This year we did, which makes it a more stark contrast.
 

yido_number1

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Jun 8, 2004
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We haven't bought before we sold in the past though. This year we did, which makes it a more stark contrast.
We sold winks and released Lucas pretty early. We also sent back lenglet and danjuma as the window closed so that's not really the case.

We knew kane was going so baldy was happy to take a small chance but that's 5 outs and 5 in if you include Phillips
 

Timberwolf

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We're probably simultaneously 'looking at' or 'interested in' about 150 players at any given time tbh.

There was so little smoke around this one I don't think he's a player that was particularly high on our list, even if we'd scouted him and put out the feelers.

I think if you're losing your shit about not signing this guy in particular, I'd just avoid transfer rumours all together as you're going to end up a very angry frustrated person when we 'miss out on' 100 players every window.

I can get the frustration over a player like Tapsoba that we were linked to on a daily basis for about 2 months, but this guy...nah.
 

WiganSpur

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Aug 31, 2012
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We hear this season after season under Levy though.

The 'deadwood' argument.

I just find it hard to believe that we've had no offers for these players (other than N'Dombele).

What I can believe is that we continue to 'drive a hard bargain' which effectively means waiting until the last week of the window and losing out on our targets in the meantime.

I'm far from a life-long Levy basher. In fact I've spent a lot of time on here defending him.

But he's shit at transfer windows...there's not really much evidence otherwise IMO.
I think the only player who would be objectively difficult to shift is Ndombele imo, and even then I reckon a French club would bite on a season long loan at 40-50% wages.

With realistic valuations, I don't see how shifting any of the other rumoured outs would be especially difficult.
 

mr ashley

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We sold winks and released Lucas pretty early. We also sent back lenglet and danjuma as the window closed so that's not really the case.

We knew kane was going so baldy was happy to take a small chance but that's 5 outs and 5 in if you include Phillips
We can’t claim any credit for players returning at the end of their loans
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Nov 15, 2018
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We hear this season after season under Levy though.

The 'deadwood' argument.

I just find it hard to believe that we've had no offers for these players (other than N'Dombele).

What I can believe is that we continue to 'drive a hard bargain' which effectively means waiting until the last week of the window and losing out on our targets in the meantime.

I'm far from a life-long Levy basher. In fact I've spent a lot of time on here defending him.

But he's shit at transfer windows...there's not really much evidence otherwise IMO.
Nailed it.
 

Maxtremist

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I think the only player who would be objectively difficult to shift is Ndombele imo, and even then I reckon a French club would bite on a season long loan at 40-50% wages.

With realistic valuations, I don't see how shifting any of the other rumoured outs would be especially difficult.
Easy, as has already been reported with others, it's when the players don't wanna go to the clubs that are interested in them.

That's one of the reasons why it's hard shifting them. And you have to remember it's a mix of football and personal reasons. Sure, we can assume that everyone 'wants to be playing' but at what level/with what pressure? Does Tanganga want to drop down to Luton and be in a relegation scrap? Dier has pretty much always been in Europe, now does he want to be fighting near the bottom of the table etc... As much as we can say they're not good enough anymore... these players aren't just gonna overnight accept that. It'll be them seriously having to reevaluate their life and their positioning.

Then there's the financial. If you're in a job paying you 100k a week, the next job you go to you'd want to pay you more or the same, pretty much. And seemingly there aren't many clubs offering that. So they're staying in the job they're currently in.

Then it's also do they want to move their life and family? Does Sanchez want to go to Turkey? Etc...

The transfer fees are only one part of it and ITK seems to back that up, as it sounds like the fees involved aren't the issue in the hold up.
 

EastUpperDK82

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Jan 16, 2022
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Practically confirmed at Lyon by Laurent Blanc...

- Ernest is in Lyon. And he stays in Lyon. Full of energy and determination, he will add competition in attack. It will be very good for us, says Laurent Blanc to the independent Lyon side Olympique et Lyonnais.

 

Tucker

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Jul 15, 2013
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They have financial problems so officially he wasn't bought from Nordsjaelland(as they wanted cash now) but newly promoted Belgian club with previous transfer record of 3m bought him for 25m. Multi clubs are funny
Dodgy as fuck.
 

SandroClegane

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Jun 27, 2012
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They have financial problems so officially he wasn't bought from Nordsjaelland(as they wanted cash now) but newly promoted Belgian club with previous transfer record of 3m bought him for 25m. Multi clubs are funny
Need to start closing these ridiculous loopholes.

The Barca levers, everything Chelsea does, now this. It's all ridiculous cheating.
 

pedrodelawasp

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Jan 14, 2019
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The Belgian side are essentially being used as a proxy by this John Textor fellow, who has stakes in each club (as well as Palace and Botafogo) to allow Lyon to kick the cost of the purchase down the line, cooking their books.

Shenanigans, I say!
 

George94

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I mean that’s absolutely ridiculous, not even a mention of the signing on RWD Molenbeek’s twitter.

The whole ‘multi-club model’ is gross.
 
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