Defensive Coach

[Twizzle]

Do we have a defensive coach ?

As has been mentioned a few times of we don't we could certainly use one.

Does Ledley get involved in coaching ?

I thought he was looking after one of the younger squads but cant find any information on it.

 

[beats1]

Do we have a defensive coach ?

As has been mentioned a few times of we don't we could certainly use one.

Does Ledley get involved in coaching ?

I thought he was looking after one of the younger squads but cant find any information on it.

He is an ambassador but is involved with the U18's with Kieran McKenna. He's not head coach of the U18s though as some claimed

 

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Do we have a defensive coach ?

As has been mentioned a few times of we don't we could certainly use one.

Does Ledley get involved in coaching ?

I thought he was looking after one of the younger squads but cant find any information on it.

I think he's quite defensive.

He seems to bat away criticism quite well, anyway.





In all seriousness, I think we lack the personnel rather than the coaching

 

[Adam456]

MP was an international centre-back. You would think that would be handy

 

[Doomchicken]

Get King, Mabutt and Roberts all in as defensive coaches.

 

[DaSpurs]

Poch started in a World Cup for a nation which has won the tournament on a defensive back line. I think he knows how to set up a back line. I think we can also agree that the quality of our defenders is not worse than Hull's, Swansea's, Aston Villa's, West Brom's, Sunderland's, etc's, each of which have conceded less than us. Erego, according to deductive reasoning, that leaves us with the very obvious solution that the problem lies elsewhere, either in other personnel or the system.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

I think it's Ossie Ardiles.

 

[Twizzle]

Poch started in a World Cup for a nation which has won the tournament on a defensive back line. I think he knows how to set up a back line. I think we can also agree that the quality of our defenders is not worse than Hull's, Swansea's, Aston Villa's, West Brom's, Sunderland's, etc's, each of which have conceded less than us. Erego, according to deductive reasoning, that leaves us with the very obvious solution that the problem lies elsewhere, either in other personnel or the system.

Hence the need for a defensive coach.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

I think it's Ossie Ardiles.

I think it's Ossie Ardiles wife.

 

[shelfboy68]

Poch started in a World Cup for a nation which has won the tournament on a defensive back line. I think he knows how to set up a back line. I think we can also agree that the quality of our defenders is not worse than Hull's, Swansea's, Aston Villa's, West Brom's, Sunderland's, etc's, each of which have conceded less than us. Erego, according to deductive reasoning, that leaves us with the very obvious solution that the problem lies elsewhere, either in other personnel or the system.

I think the problem is a bit of both personnel and system which needs fixing fast.

 

[DaSpurs]

Hence the need for a defensive coach.

Well, no... since that was ruled out as the most preeminent factor in the problem.

What Poch needs to do is reassess the personnel and/or the system he is using, and carefully consider a) if he should develop other plans (which he should) and/or b) if this current plan is really worth continuing to try and force for the time being. Something he could come up with just might make the difference that makes our back line actually not concede more goals than a side hovering just above the relegation zone.

 

[Ionman34]

Get King, Mabutt and Roberts all in as defensive coaches.

Or players?

 

[Sweech]

I think it's the players that Poch has at his disposal and the push to play youth in positions (mainly the midfield) which leave the back 4 exposed that has led to our poor defensive record.

I say this because by all accounts Poch's previous teams had solid defensive records and we appear to be the outlier on his record.

 

[Gbspurs]

Poch started in a World Cup for a nation which has won the tournament on a defensive back line. I think he knows how to set up a back line. I think we can also agree that the quality of our defenders is not worse than Hull's, Swansea's, Aston Villa's, West Brom's, Sunderland's, etc's, each of which have conceded less than us. Erego, according to deductive reasoning, that leaves us with the very obvious solution that the problem lies elsewhere, either in other personnel or the system.

So did Matthew Upson........

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

The defense is not the sole reason why we are conceding goals. If you play a hard pressing game the whole team needs to work coherently. If they don't then massive holes leave the defense vulnerable to being overloaded by the oppositions runners from midfield as well as attackers. Ultimately it's the front 4 not pressing coherently which is leaving us so open at the back. So we don't need a defensive coach. We need Poch to knock some heads together and get the current front 4 to work harder or change personnel to those who will adhere to the system.

 

[mpickard2087]

We effectively play a 4-2-4. When the front four doesn't press effectively and consistently (no matter who gets picked, before we start blaming individuals) then you will always be in trouble.

 

[Japhet]

The defense is not the sole reason why we are conceding goals. If you play a hard pressing game the whole team needs to work coherently. If they don't then massive holes leave the defense vulnerable to being overloaded by the oppositions runners from midfield as well as attackers. Ultimately it's the front 4 not pressing coherently which is leaving us so open at the back. So we don't need a defensive coach. We need Poch to knock some heads together and get the current front 4 to work harder or change personnel to those who will adhere to the system.

I agree with what you say but would also count the 2 CMs in there. Neither Mason nor Bentaleb have a defensive mind set and don't break play up well enough IMO. They also don't (can't) cover the flanks well enough or stop players coming through the middle. We really need 3 in MF for a while to steady things up a bit. Every team we play must fancy their chances of scoring and the whole set up looks shaky from a defensive perspective.

 

[danielneeds]

Defensive coach is a misnomer. People suggesting former defenders, as well, lots of very good defenders can't coach for toffee - Stuart Pearce, Tony Adams, etc.

We could tighten up in a pragmatic fashion very easily - move the back four to defend just outside the 18 yard line, fullbacks not crossing halfway, team all dropping back into two banks of four when we lose the ball, but Poch is obviously working towards something more agressive and difficult.

He may need more time and some different players, but let's judge him after another season.

 

[IGSpur]

I say this because by all accounts Poch's previous teams had solid defensive records and we appear to be the outlier on his record.

#spursy

 

[Sweech]

#spursy

My name is Christian Eriksen and I do not understand this reference.