Alessandro Bastoni

[OpenHeartZoo]

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Bastoni is a tad reluctant about moving here. He's a massive Inter fan and is living the dream, planned on being captain etc. Seems Inter are pushing him out of the door as the sacrificial lamb. Conte is the key to greasing the wheels but when he never commits to staying at a club for more than a year, I'm not sure that would fill me with confidence if I wasn't sure about moving to a new country.

On the other hand he's only 23, so he could move here for five years as an adventure and then get a free transfer back to Inter in his prime and get another five year deal. Not a bad life for some!

 

[Trix]

I agree but Inter are a slippery club and what we don’t want to happen again is what reportedly happened with Martinez. We were confident of getting him? only for Inter to sell Lukaku instead. For all we know they could be negotiating to sell one or two other players again = no need to sell Bastoni. I think this is one deal where we need to be aggressive and get it over the line before Inter get chance to drag it out and play silly buggers again.

Indeed, and again something I said in my original post on the subject when I first confirmed our interest.

 

[van_Pommel]

Put a clause in the contract so that Inter can buy him back after 2 years for the same price we paid. Then it's up to them if they bid and up to him if he wants to go back. Worst case scenario we net out at 0 (minus wages) having had a great player for 2 years. I think these types of clauses are going to become more common, especially with the latest trend of top players running their contracts down.

 

[Timberwolf]

Because Chelsea sill owe them most of the original transfer fee?

I explained this in a previous post - Inter still need the money owed from the Lukaku deal to sort out their financial woes. They can't just write off 71m simply cos they want Lukaku back. That would mean they would need to raise an additional 71m through sales, on top of the 60m they're trying to get at the moment.

 

[CantSmileWithoutYou]

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Bastoni is a tad reluctant about moving here. He's a massive Inter fan and is living the dream, planned on being captain etc. Seems Inter are pushing him out of the door as the sacrificial lamb. Conte is the key to greasing the wheels but when he never commits to staying at a club for more than a year, I'm not sure that would fill me with confidence if I wasn't sure about moving to a new country.

On the other hand he's only 23, so he could move here for five years as an adventure and then get a free transfer back to Inter in his prime and get another five year deal. Not a bad life for some!

Yeah right... Like Levy would let that happen...

 

[CantSmileWithoutYou]

Because Chelsea sill owe them most of the original transfer fee?

I explained this in a previous post - Inter still need the money owed from the Lukaku deal to sort out their financial woes. They can't just write off 71m simply cos they want Lukaku back. That would mean they would need to raise an additional 71m through sales, on top of the 60m they're trying to get at the moment.

Genuine question. Are Chelsea allowed to pay them at the moment due to the restrictions in place? Just a thought...

 

[Timberwolf]

Genuine question. Are Chelsea allowed to pay them at the moment due to the restrictions in place? Just a thought...

Don't know for sure, but I assume with the Chelsea buyout now confirmed the restrictions are no longer a problem, or won't be for much longer.

 

[sausage]

Put a clause in the contract so that Inter can buy him back after 2 years for the same price we paid. Then it's up to them if they bid and up to him if he wants to go back. Worst case scenario we net out at 0 (minus wages) having had a great player for 2 years. I think these types of clauses are going to become more common, especially with the latest trend of top players running their contracts down.

Not the worst - there's transfer inflation, too. Imagine buying Romero for £50m and then losing him for £50m after another good season like the last, and then you realise that to replace him it's usually £90m, rather than what you normally get for £50m (e.g. Davinson Sanchez).

Kind of like if we'd set Kane's release fee at £50m a few years back when it seemed a lot, and then you find that it gets you an Olly Watkins in today's money.

 

[Phil-spur99]

Maybe, but I don't think their original asking price was ever an issue. Of course with every deal you don't just outright agree to pay what they ask, but it wouldn't be what was holding the deal up if they were standing firm on it. It's more likely that they are trying to squeeze a bit more which again wouldn't be a surprise. The fact is they have to sell players(and that is indeed a fact), and Bremer is going to have other suitors if they delay too long. Still think(opinion) this could well be done before the week is out.

It’s interesting how inter-related deals are such as Bastoni to us and Bremer to Inter.

I understand a player can’t play for two clubs in a season but wondered whether if we were in a position where Bastoni was a first choice but Bremer was a second choice, we could pay for a first option on Bremer and still pursue Bastoni and use that option to bargain with Inter, we won’t exercise the option / will novate it to you if you sell us Bastoni for X. Is there any reason why this is not allowed?

 

[OpenHeartZoo]

Put a clause in the contract so that Inter can buy him back after 2 years for the same price we paid. Then it's up to them if they bid and up to him if he wants to go back. Worst case scenario we net out at 0 (minus wages) having had a great player for 2 years. I think these types of clauses are going to become more common, especially with the latest trend of top players running their contracts down.

I was thinking this, but it would have to be weighted slightly more in our favour. Something like a clause that kicks in after three years and they have the option to purchase for £15-20m more than we paid? Obvs would require new ownership for them but that's not impossible in three years.

Still not ideal tbh but it would be a way to "back Conte" in the short term if the player is adamant about playing for Inter again.

 

[mattspur1986]

If he doesn't want to come, screw him and move on. So much for his love and appreciation of what Conte did for him.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

Genuine question. Are Chelsea allowed to pay them at the moment due to the restrictions in place? Just a thought...

The payments to Inter for Lukaku would not have benefited Abramovitch so would assume they were still allowed, problem was Chelsea didn't have the money so government allowed a cash injection to pay wages and other outgoings.
Conte left Inter because they couldn't guarantee investment in the transfer market let's hope they need the money for Bastoni. Not sure any of the football wage websites can be believed, Bastoni is reportedly on 3.1 mill. euros wages , Spurs could improve on that with ease especially when/if we unload N'Dombele.

Chelsea given financial boost after being allowed £30m cash injection

MIKE KEEGAN: Chelsea have been given a financial lifeline by the Treasury after they were told the club's parent company can inject £30m to resolve immediate cash flow problems.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Trix]

It’s interesting how inter-related deals are such as Bastoni to us and Bremer to Inter.

I understand a player can’t play for two clubs in a season but wondered whether if we were in a position where Bastoni was a first choice but Bremer was a second choice, we could pay for a first option on Bremer and still pursue Bastoni and use that option to bargain with Inter, we won’t exercise the option / will novate it to you if you sell us Bastoni for X. Is there any reason why this is not allowed?

Why would Bremer sign that?

 

[mattspur1986]

I would start panic only if Romano or Di Marzio reports that

DI marzio for sure, think romano gets a lot of his info from marzio.

 

[Phil_2.0]

I will be pleasantly surprised if we get this done early. Hope things will be different under Paratici because im becoming more convinced it is necessary to get your business done early and not let it drag out.

Only big players we've signed before August in recent history were Ndombele and Gil. Only looked at the last 5 years but i'm sure if you went back further you'd see a similar trend.

Rewatched the All or Nothing episode yesterday on transfers and Levy says when talking about January that it all happens in the last week. Summer is different but our business is all done throughout August after season has started

Its a stark contrast to Liverpool signing players before preseason. Liverpool sign their big players ASAP, Fabinho, Keita, Van Dijk, Allison, Konate all signed almost day one of the window opening.

We absolutely have to change, real clubs get this stuff done and give their manager the best chance to integrate them. The Directors get in a room or virtual room, force the selling teams hand and pull the trigger or they move onto the next target. A lot of the work is seemingly done months before. Even if by Aug 31 we have 6 new players and it looks like Conte has been backed it will not be the most optimal scenario for him if its a drip drab affect of people drifting in through Aug after the season has started and not being able to be coached by him properly in the pre-season.

Levy being too cautious on the trigger and wanting to haggle until the deals dead combined with Paratici being involved in too many pies makes me nervous that we could drift again this summer. We should have had Bastoni wrapped up a month ago, if we finish in the CL you're coming to us.

If Bastoni isn't done this week we move on but we have to have 80% of our work done before Pre-Season otherwise nothing will have changed, the club will irritate the best coach we've ever had and will probably mean we don't make a run at the title. If Spurs aren't aiming for winning the league with a top 5 coach in the world with the best player in our history Harry Kane in the team then I don't know what we are as a football club.

The only caveat is if Bastoni is Conte's ride or die target then I guess we should be comfortable letting drift and making sure our other work across the team is done early.

 

[Basil Brush]

I will be pleasantly surprised if we get this done early. Hope things will be different under Paratici because im becoming more convinced it is necessary to get your business done early and not let it drag out.

Only big players we've signed before August in recent history were Ndombele and Gil. Only looked at the last 5 years but i'm sure if you went back further you'd see a similar trend.

Rewatched the All or Nothing episode yesterday on transfers and Levy says when talking about January that it all happens in the last week. Summer is different but our business is all done throughout August after season has started

Its a stark contrast to Liverpool signing players before preseason. Liverpool sign their big players ASAP, Fabinho, Keita, Van Dijk, Allison, Konate all signed almost day one of the window opening.

We absolutely have to change, real clubs get this stuff done and give their manager the best chance to integrate them. The Directors get in a room or virtual room, force the selling teams hand and pull the trigger or they move onto the next target. A lot of the work is seemingly done months before. Even if by Aug 31 we have 6 new players and it looks like Conte has been backed it will not be the most optimal scenario for him if its a drip drab affect of people drifting in through Aug after the season has started and not being able to be coached by him properly in the pre-season.

Levy being too cautious on the trigger and wanting to haggle until the deals dead combined with Paratici being involved in too many pies makes me nervous that we could drift again this summer. We should have had Bastoni wrapped up a month ago, if we finish in the CL you're coming to us.

If Bastoni isn't done this week we move on but we have to have 80% of our work done before Pre-Season otherwise nothing will have changed, the club will irritate the best coach we've ever had and will probably mean we don't make a run at the title. If Spurs aren't aiming for winning the league with a top 5 coach in the world with the best player in our history Harry Kane in the team then I don't know what we are as a football club.

The only caveat is if Bastoni is Conte's ride or die target then I guess we should be comfortable letting drift and making sure our other work across the team is done early.

Do you consider Perisic a big player, as that looks done?

 

[Frank Blank]

No doubt it has already been said but why not make bids for both Bremer and Bastoni, just to fuck Inter about.

Transfers are like military counter offensives - the best ones being the ones where you know something's going to happen, you're just not not sure where and how.

 

[Phil_2.0]

Do you consider Perisic a big player, as that looks done?

Yes, on the one hand it's a sign to be encouraged but on the other Perisic is an easier deal to do with him being out of contract.

It does feel different the noises coming out of Tottenham this summer so I am more optimistic that we will be cold calculated and ruthless but we have 20 years of Levy running the club and the trend is let things run and hopefully save a few million at the end or wait for a good player to magically become available. I don't think it's a bad strategy, it's meant we've been in Europe for 10+ years in a row but ultimately if we want to close the gap to the top 2 you gotta match City and Liverpool for their ruthlessness in recruitment.

We probably will finish in the Top 4 next year if Conte is backed with all the players signing in the last week of August BUT theres a real opportunity to be a major player with Conte and go for Premier League title if we get our work done early and give him the best chance.

 

[ATZR]

Fuck Inter.

I agree.

 

[bceej]

Chelsea reportedly going in for Martinez now. I’d imagine it’d one of him or Bastoni.