The ousting of Daniel (COYS)

KingNick said:

Yes, I was thanks. He was a bag of nerves as always with no positional awareness. And his uncertainty spreads across the rest of the back 4. Relying on a young player to add leadership which a full international with a lot of games under his belt should have been doing, just shows how prejudicial he is to our performance.

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Yet we only conceded 1 own goal?

I thought the back struggled in possession because of a lack of options. Skipp, Hojbjerg and lo celso offered nothing in terms of showing for the ball. Put biss, maddison and sarr in and he looks a lot more assured.

chas vs dave said:

Yet we only conceded 1 own goal?

I thought the back struggled in possession because of a lack of options. Skipp, Hojbjerg and lo celso offered nothing in terms of showing for the ball. Put biss, maddison and sarr in and he looks a lot more assured.

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this is now a pointless conversation. If you think Sanchez is an acceptable back-up, fair play to you. I don’t think I’m in a minority in thinking he is terrible and makes us a much worse team whenever he plays. The lack of interest in him even at a knock down price would suggest this view is widely held in football.

KingNick said:

this is now a pointless conversation. If you think Sanchez is an acceptable back-up, fair play to you. I don’t think I’m in a minority in thinking he is terrible and makes us a much worse team whenever he plays. The lack of interest in him even at a knock down price would suggest this view is widely held in football.

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No, what I am saying is that he has adequately demonstrated so far that he can play in anges system.

He has had terrible and good games for spurs.

People keep mentioning that the top teams struggled to sell/get out their players so lets look at that:

Man Utd Sales: Henderson, Elanga, Fred, Kovar, Telles, Iqbar

Loaned out - Williams, Fernandez, Greenwood

Total players out - 9

Liverpool Sales: Henderson, Fabinho

Loaned out - Carvalho, Van Den Berg, Ramsay, Phillips, Williams

Total players out - 7

Arsenal Sales: Balogun, Xhaka, Turner, Trusty, Mari, Holding

Loaned out - Tierney, Tavares, Marquinhos, Lokonga, Okonkwo, Runarsson

Total players out - 12

Chelsea Sales - Havertz, Mount, Kovacic, Koulibaly, Pulisic, Mendy, Loftus Cheek, Ampadu, Hudson Odoi

Loaned out - Lukaku, Kepa, Ziyech, Santos, Angelo, Fofana, Hall, Slonina

Total players out - 17

Man City sales - Palmer, Mahrez, Laporte, Herrera

Loaned out - Cancelo, McAtee, Perrone, Kabore, Doyle, Wilson-Esbrand, Tedic

Total players out - 11


Now for us...

Spurs sales - Kane, Winks

Loaned players out - Spence, Tanganga, Reguilon, Rodon

Total players out - 6


Brighton had 16 out in total, Newcastle 10 and Villa also 6 just as an FYI.


We seem to be struggling to sell/loan out our players more than all the other teams around us (other than Villa). Why that is, I will leave that up to you to decide.

HertsYid said:

Right.
Levy you horrible little hobbit. You have fucked us yet again and yet some of us still believe in you.
Just sell the club I’ve bled blue for nearly 40 years and piss off. You tight-fisted little balding C U Next Tuesday

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I'm anazed you haven't had about 30 WTF ratings from the Levy fan club
100% agree mate the runt is destroying our club!

King of the Lane said:

People keep mentioning that the top teams struggled to sell/get out their players so lets look at that:

Man Utd Sales: Henderson, Elanga, Fred, Kovar, Telles, Iqbar

Loaned out - Williams, Fernandez, Greenwood

Total players out - 9

Liverpool Sales: Henderson, Fabinho

Loaned out - Carvalho, Van Den Berg, Ramsay, Phillips, Williams

Total players out - 7

Arsenal Sales: Balogun, Xhaka, Turner, Trusty, Mari, Holding

Loaned out - Tierney, Tavares, Marquinhos, Lokonga, Okonkwo, Runarsson

Total players out - 12

Chelsea Sales - Havertz, Mount, Kovacic, Koulibaly, Pulisic, Mendy, Loftus Cheek, Ampadu, Hudson Odoi

Loaned out - Lukaku, Kepa, Ziyech, Santos, Angelo, Fofana, Hall, Slonina

Total players out - 17

Man City sales - Palmer, Mahrez, Laporte, Herrera

Loaned out - Cancelo, McAtee, Perrone, Kabore, Doyle, Wilson-Esbrand, Tedic

Total players out - 11


Now for us...

Spurs sales - Kane, Winks

Loaned players out - Spence, Tanganga, Reguilon, Rodon

Total players out - 6


Brighton had 16 out in total, Newcastle 10 and Villa also 6 just as an FYI.


We seem to be struggling to sell/loan out our players more than all the other teams around us (other than Villa). Why that is, I will leave that up to you to decide.

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100% on some small greedy man!

King of the Lane said:

People keep mentioning that the top teams struggled to sell/get out their players so lets look at that:

Man Utd Sales: Henderson, Elanga, Fred, Kovar, Telles, Iqbar

Loaned out - Williams, Fernandez, Greenwood

Total players out - 9

Liverpool Sales: Henderson, Fabinho

Loaned out - Carvalho, Van Den Berg, Ramsay, Phillips, Williams

Total players out - 7

Arsenal Sales: Balogun, Xhaka, Turner, Trusty, Mari, Holding

Loaned out - Tierney, Tavares, Marquinhos, Lokonga, Okonkwo, Runarsson

Total players out - 12

Chelsea Sales - Havertz, Mount, Kovacic, Koulibaly, Pulisic, Mendy, Loftus Cheek, Ampadu, Hudson Odoi

Loaned out - Lukaku, Kepa, Ziyech, Santos, Angelo, Fofana, Hall, Slonina

Total players out - 17

Man City sales - Palmer, Mahrez, Laporte, Herrera

Loaned out - Cancelo, McAtee, Perrone, Kabore, Doyle, Wilson-Esbrand, Tedic

Total players out - 11


Now for us...

Spurs sales - Kane, Winks

Loaned players out - Spence, Tanganga, Reguilon, Rodon

Total players out - 6


Brighton had 16 out in total, Newcastle 10 and Villa also 6 just as an FYI.


We seem to be struggling to sell/loan out our players more than all the other teams around us (other than Villa). Why that is, I will leave that up to you to decide.

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Interesting post - thank you

You didn’t include Scarlett, Devine and Parrot as loaned out players.

There were also 3 released players but I can see why they weren’t included.

chas vs dave said:

It's going to take a few windows to get the crap out.

We also need to.provide a pathway for our youth. A lot of people are saying we have a lot of diamonds in the youth system. We have to try them at some point.

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It will if we keep loaning players & only manage to sell 2 players, one of which was Kane …

Russ1201 said:

I'm anazed you haven't had about 30 WTF ratings from the Levy fan club
100% agree mate the runt is destroying our club!

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Mad isn’t it mate, it’s almost like the ‘Levy fan club’ doesn’t exist.

King of the Lane said:

People keep mentioning that the top teams struggled to sell/get out their players so lets look at that:

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Now do just the non-HG players as that's our biggest problem.

Oscar22 said:

Mad isn’t it mate, it’s almost like the ‘Levy fan club’ doesn’t exist.

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Levy has a god like status

Jody said:

Interesting post - thank you

You didn’t include Scarlett, Devine and Parrot as loaned out players.

There were also 3 released players but I can see why they weren’t included.

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You are right! Transfermrkt didnt show them when i looked. That makes it look like we are average overall. On par with Utd and the Toon but still behind City, Chelsea and Arsenal. Food for thought on both sides of the argument.

Trying to be balanced, Levy hasn't done a terrible job but he hasn't done a good job. He's kept us roughly where Spurs should be but managed to also develop a losing mentality around the club during his tenure.
Surely he's maxed out the value and time to do the decent thing and let someone else try and take it forward.
Not doing the decent thing is causing the anger.

The only club that exists in this thread is the “There’s a Levy fan club” club.

Every time someone says point out someone who is just overly praising or ‘fan clubbing’ over Levy, none of you can do it. I asked one of you the other day to point out one post, you couldn’t (because it would be mean).

All you see is people who come in here and try and talk in context about this window and it’s transfers and they’re hounded. The issue we have is failures over multiple windows, which yes the buck falls on Levy, but I haven’t seen anyone deny that. However suggesting it gets you the same four or five posters crowing about a Levy fan club.

I haven’t seen ANYONE on this entire board say they think Levy has done a great job, or that they think he’s brilliant - it is always caveated, I.E “he’s done a good job to remove us from the near disaster of the Scholar/Sugar days… but he hasn’t advanced us on the pitch as much as he could have”. Multiple people have spoken about how we should have had the deadwood out years ago, but they talk about whether Sanchez can work as a 3rd backup because like it or not, that’s what he’s going to be now.

Should that be the case? No. However the window is shut, so they’re now talking about it because it’s what we are working with.

The saddest thing is watching you sow and cause division in a fan base, because literally not a single person here is doing what you’ve said, no one is in here or anywhere else on this forum roundly praising Daniel Levy and saying he’s untouchable.

People are just fed up and bored, of all your threads where all you muster is “that little bald c***” as if that’s a valid critique, it’s worse because everyone had to endure it because there’s a large portion of the staff of the site who are also anti Levy and so will let that continue, whilst telling you not to call Ndombele names.

You take the words of strangers on the Internet who are ‘ITK’ telling you Levy has ruined things, and feel it gives you a free reign to say what you want about a man you have never met. You believe every thing they say as if it’s gospel, even though track records show it not to be the case (and that’s for various reasons and not just me having a dig).

So many posts start with “the highest ticket prices in the league” …but you’re fucking paying them aren’t you.

“A soulless events dome” but you’re still going to it aren’t you.

The reason that Daniel Levy doesn’t work at this football club is because he is a businessman, not a football man. He’s there for money and profit, you, your ten mates, and your ten black balloons.. he doesn’t care about that. He cares about the money. If you want change, then stop putting cash in his pockets - it’s the only way he’s going to pay any attention to you.

Should you have to stop going to games because you don’t like your chairman? No, but if you want that change it’s the only way it’s going to happen.

Unfortunately nothing will change, because those of you who shout the loudest about wanting Levy out are more concerned about scoring points on a forum and talking about non-existent Levy fan clubs, ironically including posters, many of whom have openly said on here they don’t go to games anymore because they don’t want to pay the highest prices in the league, and they don’t agree with the rudderless non strategy of the club.

Again, not one person on this board have I seen go out of their way to say Levy is a great, good or even passable chairman, it’s always caveated with a “but he’s failing in this regard”.

This forum is becoming toxic again even with us playing better football with a likeable manager, some people just want to enjoy that a bit after the last four years of monotonous, abject, rubbish they’ve watched.

It doesn’t mean they don’t think things need to change.

Russ1201 said:

Levy has a god like status

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Can you point out an example yet?

Oscar22 said:

Can you point out an example yet?

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Plenty of examples not going to one example. So do you think that was a good window with no cb or striker signed and the Kane sale. You trust Levy?

RuskyM said:

Not really sure what people’s obsession with getting rid of “deadwood” is. I guess because they’re taking up squad space? But it’s pretty clear Ange won’t play them if he doesn’t want to, so why does it matter if whoever decides to stay? We’ve only got a game a week til January, they’re likely not going to play.

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Actually it’s what Ange has gone public several times… needing to trim the squad. The coaches will want to focus on the players that are the future and fit. Having others around that aren’t part of that impacts team spirit.

Irrelevant of who we have bought in, Ange hasn’t been backed in terms of getting rid of those he clearly doesn’t want.

It’ll be interesting to see how third parties view the window overall. Have been looking for some reviews but there doesn’t seem to be any published yet. Will keep searching.

They’ll pick up on the lack of CB & striker cover for sure but I’m interested in an overall (more objective?) assessment.

Edit: 13th here!


And a ‘B’ from the Daily Mail

Russ1201 said:

Plenty of examples not going to one example. So do you think that was a good window with no cb or striker signed and the Kane sale. You trust Levy?

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Do you not trust ange to get more out of this squad than conte got.out of the last?

We didn't sign a centre back? Wierd how some random 6 foot 4 Dutch guy has just accidentally turned up in the starting 11.

Ange has been clear that we cannot replace kane, and the striker role is different under him.

Jody said:

It’ll be interesting to see how third parties view the window overall. Have been looking for some reviews but there doesn’t seem to be any published yet. Will keep searching.

They’ll pick up on the lack of CB & striker cover for sure but I’m interested in an overall (more objective?) assessment.

Edit: 13th here!

Ranking every Premier League club's transfer window from worst to best

There is a clear loser of the Premier League transfer window - but who had the best window? 🤔

www.givemesport.com

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I’d think the views of outsiders is completely irrelevant.

You only have to see that clip of the debate on talksport about Brennan Johnson’s signing to realise that many “objective pundits” simply have no knowledge of the club’s strategy/requirements/shortcomings with which to underpin their opinions.