fishhhandaricecake
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I’d take 5 years of another Poch type journey under the next manager all day everyday.
The ousting of Daniel (COYS)
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Japhet
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We were 4th and sinking fast when Conte was sacked. He was doing exactly the same thing game after game and results were getting worse and worse. Instead of actually changing something, he went for the players in a way that ensured he'd be sacked. Yes, the players take a good share of the blame, but he did nothing to resolve the problems his management had created which just made it worse. As I said, he absolved himself of all responsibility.
JamieSpursCommunityUser
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I understand that fellah cheers.
I move this from the Manager thread, should have posted the context - but basically we were talking about Levy's interference in transfers being a power grab.
Or whether as a 25% owner he doesn't need to be accountable to the other 75%.
My argument is no his shares don't entitle him to loose other shareholders (and you!) money.
As well as waste the stakeholders (the fans) time, emotion, and resources.
That ordinarily he'd be sacked, but he's only getting away with it because of his and Lewis' business dealings, and the money he's made him to date.
SpursForever71
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the fact he got us to 4th last season and was 4th when we left was a miracle. We was nowhere near it when Mourinho and Nuno left.
Yes he could of changed things, but he hasnt been here for a good chunk of games now, and nothing has changed results wise
ultimateloner
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This is the main reason why I put Jose above him. What Conte did should scare away all big clubs despite his coaching prowess; he is a snake and will jump ship easily. He isn't someone a club can rely on in times of need.
SirHarryHotspur
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If I was a shareholder in a company where a £50/60 million investment had been turned into an asset worth in excess of £2 bn, I wouldn't be voting for the chairman to be fired , wish some of my investments had risen that much.
JamieSpursCommunityUser
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If I was a shareholder in a company where a £50/60 million investment had been turned into an asset worth in excess of £2 bn, I wouldn't be voting for the chairman to be fired , wish some of my investments had risen that much.
And if you'd bought shares in 2019?
In no other job can you say "well I failed the last 4 years, but I did well the 15 before that."
The other factor is whilst acknowledging his achievements, most of that value growth isn't Levy genius.
Every PL club's value has exploded. It's global TV audiences.
Most clubs are riding United and Liverpool's coat tails.
fridgemagnet
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Odd question that I think I already can guess the answer too but here goes;
When we've gone overseas for pre-seasons in the recent past has Levy always put himself with Poch/Jose/Conte etc when the team arrives like he did when we were in South Korea* last year and have you ever seen any other clubs chairman do it?
I'm struggling to recall any other clubs chairman that interpose themselves within the team like DL, for someone who likes to remain private he sure likes to be front and centre of stuff.
It just seems to me that it must be awkward to any manager/coach to have the big boss mixing themselves in with the playing staff.
*I get that it's an important market for us BTW.
When we've gone overseas for pre-seasons in the recent past has Levy always put himself with Poch/Jose/Conte etc when the team arrives like he did when we were in South Korea* last year and have you ever seen any other clubs chairman do it?
I'm struggling to recall any other clubs chairman that interpose themselves within the team like DL, for someone who likes to remain private he sure likes to be front and centre of stuff.
It just seems to me that it must be awkward to any manager/coach to have the big boss mixing themselves in with the playing staff.
*I get that it's an important market for us BTW.
SirHarryHotspur
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Football club ownership doesn't quite work like that as about 13 clubs in the PL haven't won a major trophy this century, should all their owners resign for being failures.
Should the owners of Leicester City resign, they sacked a manager that won them the PL title , recently sacked the manager who won them the FA cup and are now likely to be relegated but they do own a horse called The Foxes who won The Dante and is 10-1 for the Derby , so that should be some compensation for Leicester fans.
Wish ENIC would buy a horse and name it Cumonuspurs.
Karol
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Yes
danielneeds
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Any business person could argue the majority of that is the growth in football as an industry all round and the stadium. Loads of companies get rid of a CEO who improved a certain area of the business when they want to move on to expanding in different areas.If I was a shareholder in a company where a £50/60 million investment had been turned into an asset worth in excess of £2 bn, I wouldn't be voting for the chairman to be fired , wish some of my investments had risen that much.
mil1lion
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I wish Conte just saw out the season before his rant. He should have just seen out his 15m a season contract and did his best to get into top 4 again. Once the season is done then have the rant and tell a few home truths. We certainly needed it.
I blame Levy still though because it was always going to happen with Conte. Unless you back him fully it will always blow up in your face. This latest update from dragon I think it was about Levy possibly making a u turn for Nagelsmann has me worried. I can't help but see him promise Nagelsmann control and then getting involved again, upsetting him and back we are again looking for a new manager.
I blame Levy still though because it was always going to happen with Conte. Unless you back him fully it will always blow up in your face. This latest update from dragon I think it was about Levy possibly making a u turn for Nagelsmann has me worried. I can't help but see him promise Nagelsmann control and then getting involved again, upsetting him and back we are again looking for a new manager.
Joshua shepherd
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Were we sinking? We had just won 5 of our last 8 in the league. Since Conte left we've won 2 of 9. We were struggling to secure wins on the road but that's been the case for about 5 years.
Cinemattis
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Sooo … have we ousted him yet?
dirtyh
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ultimateloner
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He didn't fail in the last 4 years financially.
He has done a great job for shareholders. It's hard to deny that. The stadium alone is 10 years of work.
ultimateloner
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I think it's a good sign. He isn't just a passive investor.
I don't support a business, I support a football club.
