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MindOverMatter · Mar 11, 2023

Oh Teddy Teddy said:
It's an interesting one; seems obvious to just say 'yeah, the trophy one' – but... does that mean we don't bother following Spurs all season? If they're boring, turgid during league games, and it's a chore to watch, we'd just log in at the end of the season to see us lift the, what, League Cup? I'd love it, but have I only just tuned in for Spurs for that one moment

Good answer, but I’d still go week in week out to show my support however we play but that’s just me. Can’t just stop loving the team I support

Oh Teddy Teddy · Mar 11, 2023

MindOverMatter said:
Good answer, but I’d still go week in week out to show my support however we play but that’s just me. Can’t just stop loving the team I support

I suspect it's the same for me. I know we're playing like shit recently, but still tune in excited because, like you say, it's Spurs.

Without the knowledge of where a trophy is coming from though, I will always favour a manager who wants to attack and impose their own game on the opposition.

MindOverMatter · Mar 11, 2023

Tucker said:
It doesn’t though so it’s a meaningless question. It’s like asking if Santa was real would I let him use his magic to make us win the Champions League even though everyone would know we’d only won cause of Santa using pixie dust.

Santa doesn’t exist and we have seen over the last three years that defensive football doesn’t automatically win trophies.

Okay just let’s say that it’s a question and you had to answer… what would you choose?

I don’t think it’s a meaningless question to ask because it’s ‘if the outcome was to happen what would you choose’

Japhet · Mar 11, 2023

Without knowing too much about him, I nail my colours to the Gallardo mast. It's a risk for sure, but hiring Mourinho and Conte were meant to be dead certs and look what happened. I'm all for adventure and pragmatism and a Coach who can change things up and bring through young talent. Absolutely sick to the back teeth of negative, passive, dull football and managers who think they're too good for us.

aussiespursguy · Mar 11, 2023

Tucker said:
Yeah I know. But from what I can tell it’s just a load of Aussie’s who keep mentioning him. He’s nowhere near the level we should be looking at.

Err.....No I Didn't!

snakehipsspurs · Mar 11, 2023

Tucker said:
I’d still rather he showed what he’s got at someone like Southampton, Brighton or Leeds first. It’s too big a risk on someone who’s only ever done it in the minor leagues.

He may well be though highly of, but it’s a massive step up from managing in the Japanese or Scottish league to managing in the English premier league.

I’d argue managing Celtic is a bigger club management job than Poch’s time at Southampton. He was a risk at the time, and look how that turned out.

I think Enrique is the surer bet, but can’t lie would be very exciting if we went for a manager like Postecogluo who has massive potential.

jimbo · Mar 11, 2023

My feeling is that if we don’t get Gallardo we’ll look back at it in much the same way we can look back and wish we’d got Ten Hag now.

I fully expect us not to appoint him and I fully expect us to regret it.

Wig · Mar 11, 2023

Metalhead said:
I honestly don't think that Carragher is using his forum as a professional pundit to promote the best interests of a club that he supports. I'd give him a bit more credit than that.

Sometimes I'm not sure where the sarcasm starts and ends

Tucker · Mar 11, 2023

snakehipsspurs said:
I’d argue managing Celtic is a bigger club management job than Poch’s time at Southampton. He was a risk at the time, and look how that turned out.

I think Enrique is the surer bet, but can’t lie would be very exciting if we went for a manager like Postecogluo who has massive potential.

It’s not, I don’t think it was then and it certainly isn’t now.

Managing Celtic and Rangers is like shooting fish in a barrel. The Southampton manager has to show he can win games against the best most expensively assembled teams in the world. The Celtic manger has to beat Arbroath and St Mirren.

Fredo · Mar 11, 2023

0-Tibsy-0 said:
Guys - not that ratings mean that much. But just in case there is confusion... I am in fact not Jamie Carragher and therefore didn't pen this article....

They're just disagreeing with the article, not you.

Why are people so offended by ratings on this forum? Might aswell remove them altogether or just leave positive ones available.

sidford · Mar 11, 2023

I can't see levy taking such a massive risk as Gallardo. He is backed into an absolute corner now with Conte going and likely Paratici as well in the next few weeks (depending obviously on outcome of case). I just can't see him going on a manager untested in Europe never mind the premiership

Metalhead · Mar 11, 2023

Wig said:
Sometimes I'm not sure where the sarcasm starts and ends

No, genuinely. People seem to think that people involved in professional football are only using their position to promote the interests of the club that they support. It clearly isn't the case.

snakehipsspurs · Mar 11, 2023

Tucker said:
It’s not, I don’t think it was then and it certainly isn’t now.

Managing Celtic and Rangers is like shooting fish in a barrel. The Southampton manager has to show he can win games against the best most expensively assembled teams in the world. The Celtic manger has to beat Arbroath and St Mirren.

Such a backwards view of Scottish football.

Celtic are a massive historic club with 60000 demanding fans in the stadium every week. He’s won two title challenges against an equally strong rival club and played champions league football twice. Feels like a pretty good test of a managers ability.

Oh plus he’s managed at a World Cup and his side were widely praised for how they played in a group against Netherlands and Spain.

He’s categorically a much more tested, proven and successful manager than Poch was before he came to us.

Metalhead · Mar 11, 2023

Rout-Ledge said:
It’s an odd premise, because we’ve had some of the most successful defensive coaches in modern times and they’ve failed to win anything for us. We can also debate what ‘backing’ really means (I’ve come to hate the phrase as it’s now seemingly shorthand for ‘buy a manager world class players in every single position’).

Ultimately I want us to win, and if we’re winning trophies then that probably means we aren’t playing particularly awful football. So against the specific parameters you’ve outlined - I’d rather win under a defensive coach than lose under an attacking one. But I don’t for a moment think we’ve got a better chance of actually winning under a defensive coach, so it’s a bit of a moot point.

That's a fair point. If we were winning regularly and winning trophies then I think that people would stomach the style.

Ledders Army · Mar 11, 2023

MindOverMatter said:
But if it did that’s the question. I just don’t know how to make a poll

If you had to choose what would it be?

I want to win trophies but I think the best way is to be a mainly attacking side who are willing to adapt.

We've shown the passive, sit back, give up possession tactic can be very effective against City but it doesn't mean we should do it against everyone regardless of their division or the state of the tie if over 2 legs.

With our budget we should be a team that goes out & dominates most teams in the league. But at certain times of the season or against certain teams we should also use the negative, defensive, counter attack tactic to give us the best chance of getting the result we want.

Albertbarich · Mar 11, 2023

Ghost Hardware said:
I really love the guy and a big fan of his but I think considering he’s 65, never managed outside Italy and doesn’t speak English I think it would be very risky especially for us in our current situation.

Yeah you're right. I love watching Atalanta though, and 3 at the back!

Wig · Mar 11, 2023

Metalhead said:
No, genuinely. People seem to think that people involved in professional football are only using their position to promote the interests of the club that they support. It clearly isn't the case.

Cool. In my opinion it's not that black and white though. Yes they are professionals but they are not discouraged to show their club bias.

Anyway I don't want to go off topic. I don't mind which new manager we go for, just one who will be proud of the club, who will foster daring attacking football, and a willingness to regularly blood youth prospects.

Tucker · Mar 11, 2023

snakehipsspurs said:
Such a backwards view of Scottish football.

Celtic are a massive historic club with 60000 demanding fans in the stadium every week. He’s won two title challenges against an equally strong rival club and played champions league football twice. Feels like a pretty good test of a managers ability.

Oh plus he’s managed at a World Cup and his side were widely praised for how they played in a group against Netherlands and Spain.

He’s categorically a much more tested, proven and successful manager than Poch was before he came to us.

Oh come on now. It’s completely substandard in comparison to the EPL. Half the teams would struggle in the championship, the rest probably wouldn’t get out of league one or two.

Ray Ray · Mar 11, 2023

brasil_spur said:
Really torn right now on who I want next.

I'm not sure I buy into Gallardo, as good as he theoretically is, it's a massive gamble bringing in a manager who's never managed in Europe before, let alone the PL.

If we're looking for the next Poch then I think we're out of luck as there isn't anyone right now that compares with him at the point we brought him to Spurs.

So whoever we bring in is going to be a gamble for us. Personally I think Poch is the most "reliable" option for us as he knows the club, knows many of the players, has PL experience and now has higher level experience with PSG.

Potentially Thomas Frank at Brentford is the closest. Has a team over-performing on a relatively small budget.

He's also improved a hell of a lot of the players he's brought in, and has a clear footballing identity in the way he plays.

If we are going for a long term project manager he might be the best PL-proven manager that's attainable.

yido_number1 · Mar 11, 2023

Ray Ray said:
Potentially Thomas Frank at Brentford is the closest. Has a team over-performing on a relatively small budget.

He's also improved a hell of a lot of the players he's brought in, and has a clear footballing identity in the way he plays.

If we are going for a long term project manager he might be the best PL-proven manager that's attainable.

There's no point signing a project manager levy will sack them I8 months

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