Player watch: Christian Eriksen

ToDarrenIsToDo · Jul 3, 2019

scat1620 said:
One more scary thing to add to the pile of scary things around the Eriksen transfer/contract situation is the closure of the PL transfer window before the European club window. I dread the prospect of Real Madrid putting together a bid that we would find financially acceptable as of today, but only deciding to make the offer after our window has already closed. With Eriksen out of contract at the end of the season, I can't see us rejecting an acceptable financial offer on the grounds that we wouldn't be able to use the funds to sign a replacement (until January), and so I could potentially see us losing Eriksen this summer with no one coming in to replace him, let alone strengthen the squad.

Nightmare scenario, right there.

In this instance the club would have to stick to a decision all the way through. Say that if a bid comes in after our deadline and we have no replacement be prepared to write off the money as a loss but ultimately make teams completely understand that this would be the case.

Does our window close later than the rest of Europe though? I thought that was only last summer.

ToDarrenIsToDo · Jul 3, 2019

spursfan77 said:
My theory is that Madrid will push to sign him in 12 months time so he will just wait it out. Risky strategy but he’ll have the pick of clubs if he does that and they don’t want him. Shit for us though. That’s what happens when you let contract situations play out like this.

What were we supposed to do then? Sell him last summer? These things happen, when a players contract is running down you're damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Hindsight maybe we should have sold him last summer and replaced him but with who? Grealish seems to have been our hottest interest? Do that and we may not have made top 4 it's all hindsight.

If a player doesn't want to sign an extension the club cannot be blamed,it happens

JKendall13 · Jul 3, 2019

DONOS10 said:
Being linked with Madrid's Mariano Diaz. Him along with Ceballos could be some players to ask for in exchange for Eriksen (plus cash).

Now that's an interesting one, I forgot he was back at RM. He scored bags of goals for Lyon two seasons ago. Would be an interesting Llorente replacement.

Ronwol196061 · Jul 4, 2019

I guess the Pogba situation is still brewing,which will have a direct affect on where Eriksen goes
If it comes down to it and Pogba goes to RM and RM dont want Eriksen and there is an opportunity for Eriksen to be sold to United,Levy will do it Im sure

tototoner · Jul 4, 2019

Madrid press keen on Eriksen in and Ceballos going the other way, but Ceballos only wants 1 year loan deal

Phomesy · Jul 4, 2019

EriksenFollower said:
Reading recent posts here, it almost feels like CE is an ungrateful, disloyal, prima donna and allround greedy asshole. All based on... speculations and no facts. Trump era is upon us. Awesome times

Couldn’t agree more. One of the most open honest and pragmatic players we’ve ever had - absolutely transparent about his ambitions from the start - and there’s a bunch of clowns on here shitting on his character.

Says a lot more about them tbh. Embarrassing that we have such fans.

Phomesy · Jul 4, 2019

Ronwol196061 said:
My only question with Eriksen is why didn't Eriksen open up the game more? He was also slow in getting the ball moving with many short passes often back and sides etc. I agree with NDombele the field will be more open, but my whole problem with Eriksen he did little to help in that regard (Im not saying he didn't create or score etc,its more about the fluidity)

Hard to have fluidity when the team around him is constantly changing because of injury - not to mention he’s being thrown around to plug gaps in Cm all season.

Ronwol196061 · Jul 4, 2019

Since he was at Tottenham he always had the propensity to do that. I admit at times when it was open he made things happen and that's why if he stayed I think would be even better but I never saw him as a game changer I'm afraid although I think technically he is very skilful I never saw him as a creative genius who could create from less.

Ronwol196061 · Jul 4, 2019

tototoner said:
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Madrid press keen on Eriksen in and Ceballos going the other way, but Ceballos only wants 1 year loan deal

Then we have to get the bread for Eriksen.
Then can take the loan

philip · Jul 4, 2019

For me it's simple. Eriksen signs a new contract or we sell him. We cannot afford to lose him on a free, or to have constant speculation the entire season.

Yes he's an excellent player, but frankly, Ali needs to be playing in that role anyway, and with NDombele, Sissiko, Winks and hopefully Ceballos &/or Lo Celso in CM, Ali should be moving forward anyway.

y1dk1d · Jul 4, 2019

philip said:
For me it's simple. Eriksen signs a new contract or we sell him. We cannot afford to lose him on a free, or to have constant speculation the entire season.

Yes he's an excellent player, but frankly, Ali needs to be playing in that role anyway, and with NDombele, Sissiko, Winks and hopefully Ceballos &/or Lo Celso in CM, Ali should be moving forward anyway.

Alli had his best season playing right off of Kane. Whilst I don’t want to come across as one of these people making out we’ll be better off without Eriksen as if he’s been holding us back or something ridiculous because he’s been incredible for us, I do however think that Eriksen’s departure could benefit Dele. Hopefully he’ll step up and we can get a similar goal output from him we seen in the 16-17 season. And with a bit of creativity with Ndombele now in midfield hopefully Dele will be able to pop up in the areas he’s most dangerous and play between the lines rather than having to drop deep to find that ball

Ben1 · Jul 4, 2019

This could go in any of the three threads, but the Eriksen, GLC, Ceballos triangle is confusing me. We appear to be chasing GLC regardless of Eriksen, with Ceballos another option once Eriksen departs.

But that's leaves us with either: Eriken and GLC at great cost or GLC and Ceballos on loan at breakeven cost.

The cost difference really makes little sense, either does the fact GLC probably has a higher roles in the second option.

Logically, surely the cheaper, perhaps less settled option should be regardless of Eriksen and GLC/Eriksen should be a straight swap out with similar fees.

But everything suggests otherwise.

JKendall13 · Jul 4, 2019

What’s Eriksen’s play here? He clearly wants Real Madrid, we seem to be willing to sell, but Zidane doesn’t want him.

Is he really going to not sign a contract and then crawl back to them next summer as a free agent knowing they didn’t want him this summer? Have some dignity man!

SpartanSpur · Jul 4, 2019

Phomesy said:
Couldn’t agree more. One of the most open honest and pragmatic players we’ve ever had - absolutely transparent about his ambitions from the start - and there’s a bunch of clowns on here shitting on his character.

Says a lot more about them tbh. Embarrassing that we have such fans.

Fans have loyalty to the club, not players. Some get a bit too emotional and take things personally granted, but I won't talk down to people over it. I doubt Eriksen would care what fans are saying, especially if he gets his dream move, and over time most fans do remember mostly the good stuff. I certainly wouldn't have us down as one of the worst fanbases in that respect (even failed signings like Soldado get a lot of love these days).

If he wants out, no point crying over what we're losing. You praise him for being objective and honest towards his own career, well let me be objective about his potential departure from Spurs:-

- The player has stated he wants a 'new challenge', i.e. a move to Real Madrid.
- Reports suggest that contrary to prior info, he is now using the contract situation as leverage to achieve that move.
- If no contract agreement is possible, we need to try and 'get rid' this summer or risk losing him on a free. If that requires Levy strong-arming Madrid into a deal so be it.
- He is a fantastic player who has served us well, but I'm confident we are now in a position to cope with the loss and replace adequately (Ndombele, Ceballos, Lo Celso).
- I think it's pretty fair to say he had his head turned and it affected his game a bit. Some criticism was totally OTT as I think he did better than quite a few others (sorry Dele) in a total cluster f*** of a season where he had to play very deep.
- If he chose to stay and commit to a new deal I'd be all for it. I would hope he can get back to his best once refocused.

He's one of my favourite Spurs players but I'd rather see us move him on and bring hungry guys in. This isn't like the Bale days where one player absolutely carried us and was impossible to replace, maybe with Kane but certainly not Eriksen.

No time for sentiment in football. Ruthless business.

Ben1 said:
This could go in any of the three threads, but the Eriksen, GLC, Ceballos triangle is confusing me. We appear to be chasing GLC regardless of Eriksen, with Ceballos another option once Eriksen departs.

But that's leaves us with either: Eriken and GLC at great cost or GLC and Ceballos on loan at breakeven cost.

The cost difference really makes little sense, either does the fact GLC probably has a higher roles in the second option.

Logically, surely the cheaper, perhaps less settled option should be regardless of Eriksen and GLC/Eriksen should be a straight swap out with similar fees.

But everything suggests otherwise.

My guess is Lo Celso is a higher priority target for Poch. Then of course Ceballos could be used to close negotiations for Eriksen more easily.

Lilbaz · Jul 4, 2019

JKendall13 said:
What’s Eriksen’s play here? He clearly wants Real Madrid, we seem to be willing to sell, but Zidane doesn’t want him.

Is he really going to not sign a contract and then crawl back to them next summer as a free agent knowing they didn’t want him this summer? Have some dignity man!

If i were him i'd wait. If we are wanting £70m for him, he'd probably get £50m signing on fee next summer from a big club plus a nice wage.

Lilbaz · Jul 4, 2019

SpartanSpur said:
Fans have loyalty to the club, not players. Some get a bit too emotional and take things personally granted, but I talk down to people over it. I doubt Eriksen would care what fans are saying, especially if he gets his dream move, and over time most fans do remember mostly the good stuff. I certainly wouldn't have us down as one of the worst fanbases in that respect (even failed signings like Soldado get a lot of love these days).

If he wants out, no point crying over what we're losing. You praise him for being objective and honest towards his own career, well let me be objective about his potential departure from Spurs:-

- The player has stated he wants a 'new challenge', i.e. a move to Real Madrid.
- Reports suggest that contrary to prior info, he is now using the contract situation as leverage to achieve that move.
- If no contract agreement is possible, we need to try and 'get rid' this summer or risk losing him on a free. If that requires Levy strong-arming Madrid into a deal so be it.
- He is a fantastic player who has served us well, but I'm confident we are now in a position to cope with the loss and replace adequately (Ndombele, Ceballos, Lo Celso).
- I think it's pretty fair to say he had his head turned and it affected his game a bit. Some criticism was totally OTT as I think he did better than quite a few others (sorry Dele) in a total cluster f*** of a season where he had to play very deep.
- If he chose to stay and commit to a new deal I'd be all for it. I would hope he can get back to his best once refocused.

He's one of my favourite Spurs players but I'd rather see us move him on and bring hungry guys in. This isn't like the Bale days where one player absolutely carried us and was impossible to replace, maybe with Kane but certainly not Eriksen.

No time for sentiment in football. Ruthless business.

My guess is Lo Celso is a higher priority target for Poch. Then of course Ceballos could be used to close negotiations for Eriksen more easily.

If he goes thank him for his service and wish him well.

wrd · Jul 4, 2019

Lilbaz said:
If he goes thank him for his service and wish him well.

I want Eriksen to get his dream move but if he's refusing to sign a contract then I absolutely want Levy to push him out the door and make as much money as possible because we're not in a position where we can write off a 50-70 million pound asset for free and not feel the effects on the pitch. The club comes first.

Lilbaz · Jul 4, 2019

wrd said:
I want Eriksen to get his dream move but if he's refusing to sign a contract then I absolutely want Levy to push him out the door and make as much money as possible because we're not in a position where we can write off a 50-70 million pound asset for free and not feel the effects on the pitch. The club comes first.

I agree we should try and get as much for him as we can. He'll want to look after his interests, we want to look after ours. But there is no point in some of our fans getting angry and acting like jilted lovers.

wrd · Jul 4, 2019

Lilbaz said:
I agree we should try and get as much for him as we can. He'll want to look after his interests, we want to look after ours. But there is no point in some of our fans getting angry and acting like jilted lovers.

I agree and he hasn't acted unprofessionally so there's no point, he's been a model pro. I think the two extreme sides are both being ridiculous and the logic lies in the middle, there's no need to be hateful towards him but at the same time people need to learn to let him go and we'll be okay.

Ronwol196061 · Jul 4, 2019

y1dk1d said:
Alli had his best season playing right off of Kane. Whilst I don’t want to come across as one of these people making out we’ll be better off without Eriksen as if he’s been holding us back or something ridiculous because he’s been incredible for us, I do however think that Eriksen’s departure could benefit Dele. Hopefully he’ll step up and we can get a similar goal output from him we seen in the 16-17 season. And with a bit of creativity with Ndombele now in midfield hopefully Dele will be able to pop up in the areas he’s most dangerous and play between the lines rather than having to drop deep to find that ball

Dele needs to get in to what we are doing and not just be a star in name only
He has talent but needs to be focused

Are we getting the best out of Dele attacking wise, no. Just some great highlite reels
He can be fantastic feeding off of Ndombele

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