New Stadium Details And Discussions

jimbo · Mar 7, 2019

thebenjamin said:
So much in our immediate future relies on Millwall. If we get drawn at home in the first leg, and Brighton win, it seems we'll have to play it at Wembley as UEFA aren't having us playing the QF in an untried stadium.

I find this UEFA position a bit odd. Surely the point of the test events is to try the stadium? Imagine it the other way around and the Premier League saying you have to play a cup game first?

But then, it is UEFA.

coys200 · Mar 7, 2019

There won’t be an announcement till after Brighton game and if they win there won’t be an announcement till after CL draw. But at least in 10 days we will know for sure one way or other. I’d say if Brighton win and we are drawn away 1st leg they could delay an announcement till the 20 th the latest.

southlondonyiddo · Mar 7, 2019

mark_2017 said:
Can't make 24th March. Balls.

Can’t make a youth team game infront of 20k in a stadium that holds 62k

You must be absolutely gutted

mark87 · Mar 7, 2019

southlondonyiddo said:
Can’t make a youth team game infront of 20k in a stadium that holds 62k

You must be absolutely gutted

Yes I am gutted, I would have liked to have gone.

Hoopspur · Mar 7, 2019

coys200 said:
There won’t be an announcement till after Brighton game and if they win there won’t be an announcement till after CL draw. But at least in 10 days we will know for sure one way or other. I’d say if Brighton win and we are drawn away 1st leg they could delay an announcement till the 20 th the latest.

You might think this is true, but there are no guarantees, unless you are in with the club itself. Quite conceivably some things may be announced subject to certain things happening. Such as the Brighton game.

14/04/91 · Mar 7, 2019

jimbo said:
I find this UEFA position a bit odd. Surely the point of the test events is to try the stadium? Imagine it the other way around and the Premier League saying you have to play a cup game first?

But then, it is UEFA.

Whether we like it or not, UEFA are not going to allow the first ever game at a new stadium to be a Champs League match. Especially as it’s midweek.

While it’s unlikely there’ll be any technical hitch, there is still an increased possibility compared to a fully-operational stadium. And they can’t take that risk, no matter how small.

tottenmal · Mar 7, 2019

14/04/91 said:
Whether we like it or not, UEFA are not going to allow the first ever game at a new stadium to be a Champs League match. Especially as it’s midweek.

While it’s unlikely there’ll be any technical hitch, there is still an increased possibility compared to a fully-operational stadium. And they can’t take that risk, no matter how small.

Wasn't Atletico Madrids first game at the Wanda a Champions League match vs Chelsea?

mark87 · Mar 7, 2019

tottenmal said:
Wasn't Atletico Madrids first game at the Wanda a Champions League match vs Chelsea?

No, first game was against Malaga two weekends before.

mil1lion · Mar 7, 2019

coys200 said:
There won’t be an announcement till after Brighton game and if they win there won’t be an announcement till after CL draw. But at least in 10 days we will know for sure one way or other. I’d say if Brighton win and we are drawn away 1st leg they could delay an announcement till the 20 th the latest.

The Brighton game wont affect the announcement of test events though
Also the CL draw comes before the FA Cup (Friday 15th)

Rob-67 · Mar 7, 2019

coys200 said:
Not sure how that works as neither U23 or U18 have any matches scheduled for the international break. Maybe it will be a friendly with a glamour academy.

Spurs have just cancelled an u18 game to, 'be rescheduled'

mil1lion · Mar 7, 2019

14/04/91 said:
Whether we like it or not, UEFA are not going to allow the first ever game at a new stadium to be a Champs League match. Especially as it’s midweek.

While it’s unlikely there’ll be any technical hitch, there is still an increased possibility compared to a fully-operational stadium. And they can’t take that risk, no matter how small.

Isn't that the point of test events though?

Hoddle&Waddle · Mar 7, 2019

JonnySpurs said:
This.

Let's not get it twisted, if we manage to play our CL quarter final in the new ground, the atmosphere will be like nothing any of us have ever seen. It will be ridiculous and could only be a positive boost for the players.

I really hope we are in there by then, Wembley has zero intimidation factor.

Khilari · Mar 7, 2019

14/04/91 said:
Whether we like it or not, UEFA are not going to allow the first ever game at a new stadium to be a Champs League match. Especially as it’s midweek.

While it’s unlikely there’ll be any technical hitch, there is still an increased possibility compared to a fully-operational stadium. And they can’t take that risk, no matter how small.

Lol. Can't wait now...

(A) Pitch doesn't roll out
(B) Lights get turned off
(C) Alarms keep going off
(D) Any combo of the above

Khilari · Mar 7, 2019

mil1lion said:
Isn't that the point of test events though?

You'd think so, however I'm guessing trying to manage a full capacity match with away support in unfamiliar surroundings from a policing, security and safety perspective is quite hard to replicate through tests.

mil1lion · Mar 7, 2019

Khilari said:
You'd think so, however I'm guessing trying to manage a full capacity match with away support in unfamiliar surroundings from a policing, security and safety perspective is quite hard to replicate through tests.

The away fans will be in unfamiliar surroundings regardless, especially a non PL team. Their fans are not going to feel any different than if we had a PL game at home the weekend before.

I would say it's not an ideal game to open the stadium to but not enough to prevent it.

coys200 · Mar 7, 2019

Surely must be this season.

Saoirse · Mar 7, 2019

There was always a school of thought too that they wouldn't want us opening with a midweek which makes sense. We've got 42k ST holders. The normal process will assume they know exactly where they're going and can find there way in the ground and to their seat very easily. That obviously won't be the case for the first game. People will turn up having forgotten what number their block is, nobody will know the best way to get to it once inside, whether to go up or down, left or right etc without checking. That faff times 42 thousand people is going to equal quite a substantial slow-down, so it's imperative plenty of people arrive early. Which they would for a weekend opener - but a midweek game is much trickier. All you need is some transport issue out of our control, and you have tens of thousands turning up late, with little idea where to go, and slowly gawking around to boot. That would probably mean a delayed kick-off on safety grounds as if the match starts you'll have people rushing in and around, just going to the nearest part they can see space rather than their designated seat, etc. I could entirely understand, albeit I'd be very dissappointed, if it's a can of worms UEFA reckons they could do without.

Spursrmagic · Mar 7, 2019

Saoirse said:
There was always a school of thought too that they wouldn't want us opening with a midweek which makes sense. We've got 42k ST holders. The normal process will assume they know exactly where they're going and can find there way in the ground and to their seat very easily. That obviously won't be the case for the first game. People will turn up having forgotten what number their block is, nobody will know the best way to get to it once inside, whether to go up or down, left or right etc without checking. That faff times 42 thousand people is going to equal quite a substantial slow-down, so it's imperative plenty of people arrive early. Which they would for a weekend opener - but a midweek game is much trickier. All you need is some transport issue out of our control, and you have tens of thousands turning up late, with little idea where to go, and slowly gawking around to boot. That would probably mean a delayed kick-off on safety grounds as if the match starts you'll have people rushing in and around, just going to the nearest part they can see space rather than their designated seat, etc. I could entirely understand, albeit I'd be very dissappointed, if it's a can of worms UEFA reckons they could do without.

Exactly what I have wanted to post every time someone has said 'why can't we have the first game as a midweek game' you, however put it much better than I would have done . I think exactly the same applies if it is a league game. In addition to public transport problems drivers are going to need more time to work out where to park etc which they can do on a weekend game prior to a midweek game.

jimbo · Mar 7, 2019

mil1lion said:
The away fans will be in unfamiliar surroundings regardless, especially a non PL team. Their fans are not going to feel any different than if we had a PL game at home the weekend before.

I would say it's not an ideal game to open the stadium to but not enough to prevent it.

This why I don't understand the reported UEFA position. If we have a stadium licence and are legally allowed to host games, how can they stop us? Unless there is something stipulated in the rules and regulations. I have no disagreement that everyone would much prefer to open for a weekend game, preferably with a 3pm kick-off, what I don't quite understand is how UEFA could rule that we're not allowed to open midweek without inviting a legal challenge etc.

Anyway, fingers crossed for a Millwall victory

or to be drawn with the second leg at home.

Lighty64 · Mar 7, 2019

Saoirse said:
There was always a school of thought too that they wouldn't want us opening with a midweek which makes sense. We've got 42k ST holders. The normal process will assume they know exactly where they're going and can find there way in the ground and to their seat very easily. That obviously won't be the case for the first game. People will turn up having forgotten what number their block is, nobody will know the best way to get to it once inside, whether to go up or down, left or right etc without checking. That faff times 42 thousand people is going to equal quite a substantial slow-down, so it's imperative plenty of people arrive early. Which they would for a weekend opener - but a midweek game is much trickier. All you need is some transport issue out of our control, and you have tens of thousands turning up late, with little idea where to go, and slowly gawking around to boot. That would probably mean a delayed kick-off on safety grounds as if the match starts you'll have people rushing in and around, just going to the nearest part they can see space rather than their designated seat, etc. I could entirely understand, albeit I'd be very dissappointed, if it's a can of worms UEFA reckons they could do without.

Spursrmagic said:
Exactly what I have wanted to post every time someone has said 'why can't we have the first game as a midweek game' you, however put it much better than I would have done . I think exactly the same applies if it is a league game. In addition to public transport problems drivers are going to need more time to work out where to park etc which they can do on a weekend game prior to a midweek game.

surely the majority of ST holders will know where to go by then, with us already having a few familiarisations, and 2 test events they should hopefully know where to get in, and where to go.

travel disruption can happen on any given day. fair enough more likely during rush hour. I'm also sure if we had our 1st CL game as the opener a good amount of those 42k will either book the day and the following day off for the experience, or will be chucking a sickie and hope they are not spotted on TV :whistle:

Edit: also remember on any given game there will be a big chunk of corporate stay after each match. I know when I went to a match v Boro in our last season, due to needing to use the lift, I was taken through 1 of the main lounges after the game, and many where sitting down to eat

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