He’s 20 years old won MOTM on 2 of last 3 spurs starts and on debut with Argentina. I think people have every right to get excited. Also think the Beckenbauer comparisons are completely justified. Basically the essence of Beckenbauer was his calmness on the ball and his ability to surge forward looking effortless. Exactly what Foyth is currently showing. But for me the most impressive thing of all is how he didn’t crumble after the Wolves experience. Look how many supposed top players in the PL right now aren’t performing due to mindset. Man United have about 15.
Player Watch: Juan Foyth
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He’s 20 years old won MOTM on 2 of last 3 spurs starts and on debut with Argentina. I think people have every right to get excited. Also think the Beckenbauer comparisons are completely justified. Basically the essence of Beckenbauer was his calmness on the ball and his ability to surge forward looking effortless. Exactly what Foyth is currently showing. But for me the most impressive thing of all is how he didn’t crumble after the Wolves experience. Look how many supposed top players in the PL right now aren’t performing due to mindset. Man United have about 15.
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Comparing a 20 year old with a handful of appearances (mostly not at League level) to arguably one of the greatest defensive footballers to lace a pair on and the best defender I've ever seen in a Tottenham shirt isn't valid whatsoever.
IMO Such ridiculous comparisons do not help young players who are already under more pressure than ever due to the way the modern game is and how much youth potential is hyped up.
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Good God you guys need to calm down. Another player who has had 2 good games in a row after a shaky previous year and he's the personification of Roy of the Rovers.
Two games doesn't even count as form, i think you need a minimum three for anything to be statistically relevant. There's nothing wrong with 'hey this is a good start, let's see where he can go from here'.
Two games doesn't even count as form, i think you need a minimum three for anything to be statistically relevant. There's nothing wrong with 'hey this is a good start, let's see where he can go from here'.
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You seem pretty determined to deflate people's optimism as if your opinion is superior in some way. You're welcome to your own opinion which you've already stated but I don't get the need to attack other peoples with Doh ratings and red crosses. No need to keep pissing on people's chips just because they're upbeat about something.
Paolo10
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Exactly.
dontcallme
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Chill out , no need to get animated ?
Timberwolf
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But where's the fun in being a football fan if we can't hype our young players beyond belief then shit on them when they don't meet our ridiculous expectations???
SpunkyBackpack
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It's fine if they like playing for a lower-mid table Dutch team.
Japhet
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You ignored my point about comparing player at the same age.
EDIT; Actually, you didn't ignore it - you gave it a red cross.
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Paolo10
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By the time Beckenbauer was 21 he'd made 82 appearances for Bayern and scored 24 goals (wing and midfield)...and had a DFB Cup win and a World Cup runner-up medal in his pocket. He'd also possibly have had a few more caps but he got a girl pregnant and was banned from the national team.
By 21, The King had 27 games and 2 goals (22 Apps and 1 League goal) for Tottenham. The season he turned 21, he made 42 appearances in all competitions.
Foyth has 180 minutes of League football against Wolves and Palace, 90 minutes in the Champions League vs APOEL and some League Cup/FA Cup appearances.
I am not denying his potential, but for fuck sake....
By 21, The King had 27 games and 2 goals (22 Apps and 1 League goal) for Tottenham. The season he turned 21, he made 42 appearances in all competitions.
Foyth has 180 minutes of League football against Wolves and Palace, 90 minutes in the Champions League vs APOEL and some League Cup/FA Cup appearances.
I am not denying his potential, but for fuck sake....
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Thought this was worth a bump. It was written just prior to his move to us.
https://www.esdfanalysis.com/player...al&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
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Foyth is 20 though right? So can certainly surpass Ledleys achievements at the same age. Tottenham aren't Munich and Argentina aren't an all encompassing West Germany. I can definitely see comparisons with the above players though.
The Foyth is strong with this one!
I think you’re missing the point. Comparing a young player to a great is comparing their style and the way they play. Clearly nobody can say yes Juan foyth will be a great of the game and win a World Cup. But what you can do is compare their playing styles. I’ve no idea where the King comparison comes from I don’t really see that. But I do see Beckenbauer in the way he carries himself and moves around the pitch. It’s just like I compare Skipp who hasn’t played a PL minute to Scott Parker because that’s who he reminds me of.
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He may turn out to be the next bobby moore, he might turn out to be the next andy gardner. Give the lad some time, wait until he's had a couple of seasons under his belt before making such comparrisons.
It's not like this hasn't happened before, building players up or writing them off before they've even had a chance. We do it all the time. Edwards is going to be the next messi, harry kane will never make it blah blah blah.
It's not like this hasn't happened before, building players up or writing them off before they've even had a chance. We do it all the time. Edwards is going to be the next messi, harry kane will never make it blah blah blah.
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No he can't, he's 21 in January...which also means he'll take a non HG player spot next season.
Any centre half with a bit of ability on the ball is lazily compared to greats, it's a shit comparison...how much of Der Kaiser did anyone actually see or might people just be recycling lazy journalism/hype?
We've been down this rocky road on multiple occasions with various young players who have been prematurely compared to some of the absolute greats.
Once bitten, twice shy.
Blake Griffin
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no he won't, though i'm not sure what relevance that has to the discussion.
Blake Griffin
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because on 01/01/2019 he will still be 20, thus not needing to be registered for the following season. but hey, red cross away.
again though, not sure what relevance him taking up a non home-grown slot or not has.
