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Messi copy "Cruijff penalty"

Dharmabum

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All credit to Messi and Suarez (it was actually meant for Neymar: http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/b...enalty-how-suarez-stole-it-from-neymar-video/) for pulling this off (Pires & Henry did not manage...)
PS! The Messi twitter account is, as it also states, not Messi's account.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...el-messi-luis-suarez-penalty-shared-by-friend

Johan Cruyff's Reaction to Lionel Messi, Luis Suarez Penalty Shared by Friend
By Rory Marsden , Featured Columnist Feb 16, 2016

Lionel Messi's penalty tribute to Johan Cruyff was watched by the great man himself as he continued his lung cancer treatment, according to the Dutchman's friend, Tatxo Benet.

The Argentinian pulled off an audacious penalty assist in Barcelona's 6-1 thrashing of Celta Vigo on Sunday, side-footing from the spot for the onrushing Luis Suarez to complete his hat-trick, as the Leo Messi fan account showed on Twitter:

It was a routine that bore a striking resemblance to Cruyff's cheeky exchange with Jesper Olsen when playing for Ajax against Helmond Sport in 1982:



The former Barca star and manager was reportedly "excited" to see the move repeated, with Benet tweeting (via MailOnline's Pete Jenson): "Johan Cruyff watched the penalty live on television and was excited by it."

The 81st-minute goal put Barca 4-1 up, and they found two more goals to complete an emphatic win and move, once again, three points clear at the top of La Liga.

Accusations have been made that the move was disrespectful, a claim rejected by Bleacher Report's Dean Jones and Sam Tighe:

For many it was simply another display of genius from one of the greatest players of all time.

Barcelona manager Luis Enrique's defended his players, perJavier Miguel of Sport: "In this country a kick [on a player] is accepted more than flicks and tricks."

Enrique's side look well on track for another La Liga title this season, and perhaps even a successful defence of their Champions League trophy.

Cruyff led Barca to their first European Cup triumph back in 1992.

The 68-year-old was diagnosed with lung cancer last October, but he recently gave a positive update on his condition, per Jenson: "After several medical treatments I can say that the results have been very positive, thanks to the excellent work of the doctors, the affection of people and and my positive mentality."
 
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talkshowhost86

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In what way is it disrespectful at all?

I never understand this accusation against players when they do tricks etc.

If you think they are being disrespectful then clatter them...don't whinge about it.
 

thinktank

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In what way is it disrespectful at all?

I never understand this accusation against players when they do tricks etc.

If you think they are being disrespectful then clatter them...don't whinge about it.
Not in the least. The west is full of big whinging, whining, cry-babies.

That pen is what football is all about - invention, innovation, imagination, creativity, art.

And not least - fantastic entertainment.

A perfectly legitimate, legal tactic within the rules of the game and one everyone should be celebrating and admiring.
 

Tucker

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Not at all disrespectful, it was clever and fun. Like others have said, what football is all about.
 

aliyid

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Not a big fan myself and don't really understand the fuss about it.

It doesn't take any skill and if anything takes away from the bluff / double bluff duel between Striker & GK on penalties.
 

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In what way is it disrespectful at all?

I never understand this accusation against players when they do tricks etc.

If you think they are being disrespectful then clatter them...don't whinge about it.
From the point of view of being on the receiving end of it? I guess doing it when four or five goals to the good doesn't help. Lets see them try it at 0-0 or better still, 0-0 in a massive game. Its all well and good us sitting here judging, but if someone did it to us there would be ructions. If you're in a team that's taking a walloping then you aren't going to like it and if you support that team you'll probably feel the same I guess.

I'm not keen on it myself but as with pretty much everything to do with football, its one of those things that splits onions.
 

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From the point of view of being on the receiving end of it? I guess doing it when four or five goals to the good doesn't help. Lets see them try it at 0-0 or better still, 0-0 in a massive game. Its all well and good us sitting here judging, but if someone did it to us there would be ructions. If you're in a team that's taking a walloping then you aren't going to like it and if you support that team you'll probably feel the same I guess.

I'm not keen on it myself but as with pretty much everything to do with football, its one of those things that splits onions.

I don't think I'd really care if someone did it who was thumping Spurs. If they are better than you then fair enough and if they can do that sort of thing then I don't see the problem.

Obviously if an opposition player is doing something like gesturing at the opposition, or balancing the ball on his head whilst giving the opposition a moonie then that's a different situation, but if it's just skill then I don't see how it's disrespectful.

Personally I agree with @TaoistMonkey that this penalty shenanigans shouldn't be allowed. Once the penalty taker takes it, then nobody else from that team should be allowed to touch it until the opposition have done so.
 

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Find it hilarious that while diving and crippling players are both considered fine, showing a bit of skill (as in the Neymar rainbow kick) or trying something different (like this pen) are seen as unfair.

I don't see this massively different than taking a quick free kick before the opposition is ready to try and catch them out.
 

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Find it hilarious that while diving and crippling players are both considered fine, showing a bit of skill (as in the Neymar rainbow kick) or trying something different (like this pen) are seen as unfair.

I don't see this massively different than taking a quick free kick before the opposition is ready to try and catch them out.

There is no skill here though. Its just a bit of a dick move that as I said above shouldn't really be allowed.
 

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There is no skill here though. Its just a bit of a dick move that as I said above shouldn't really be allowed.

More skill than people are crediting them for.

You have to do it quickly so the keeper can't come forward, disguise it so the defenders don't get there first and actually make sure you get the finish right.

Henry and Pires were no mugs (in the quality sense) and they couldn't do it.

But yeah I don't say why it's permitted within the rules anyway.
 

Rob

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There is no skill here though. Its just a bit of a dick move that as I said above shouldn't really be allowed.

I wasn't classifying this as skill. People are equally up in arms about Neymar's "disrespectful" rainbow kick.

This falls under the same category as a quick freekick or even the "Teddy" corners where we used to do something unexpected from a set play.
 

Dharmabum

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There is no skill here though. Its just a bit of a dick move that as I said above shouldn't really be allowed.

If it requires no skills why doesn't more teams take penalties this way as it would be a very easy way to score then according to you...?
 

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More skill than people are crediting them for.

You have to do it quickly so the keeper can't come forward, disguise it so the defenders don't get there first and actually make sure you get the finish right.

Henry and Pires were no mugs (in the quality sense) and they couldn't do it.

But yeah I don't say why it's permitted within the rules anyway.

If anything it makes it easier. The keeper has already committed.

e.g Harry Kanes pen. If we did that the same, Hart would have been floundering over on one side of the goal which leaves the other side wide open.

But as we agree on it shouldn't really be allowed.
 

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We just have to agree to disagree. I can't say I feel Cruijff was a twat for doing so.
If it doesn't work out, yes, then it looks twattish.
1: I bet you're gagging for someone to pull you on the spelling of Cruyff :D
2: Cruyff's penalty was the first time it had ever been done and they were only leading 1-0 at the time so i'd agree that in that case not so twattish
3: If it doesn't work it doesn't look twattish it just makes the perp look an idiot. If its twattish, then its twattish either way.

But yet again, we go back to onions on this and its a fine line sometimes. If this had been done while the game was in the balance i'd be in the other camp on this I suppose :geek:
 
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