Team v Man City

thinktank · Nov 11, 2013

DEFchenkOE said:
For this particular game I'd also go with this or Rose for Vlad if he's fit.

This Danny Rose mystery needs to end. Where the fuck is he????

felmani26 · Nov 11, 2013

thinktank said:
This Danny Rose mystery needs to end. Where the fuck is he????

From 90% chance of playing against Chelsea 28/9 to now where there seems even more uncertainty over his involvement.

I know Andre did say expect him back after the break but i'm finding I take more what he says with a pinch of salt nowadays.

DEFchenkOE · Nov 11, 2013

thinktank said:
This Danny Rose mystery needs to end. Where the fuck is he????

Your guess is as good as mine but it's costing us since Naughton isn't a leftback and Verts doesn't want to play there.

Pretty frustrating that for whatever reason AVB couldn't resolve his differences with Benny and have him as part of the squad. It's the kind of thing that could end up costing him his job in the end.

miles_64 · Nov 11, 2013

thinktank said:
Lloris

Walker Kaboul Verts Chiri

Sandro Capoue

Lamela Eriksen Townsend

Soldado

Would tell Walker and chiri to attack the lines all day long.

This is pretty much the right team for me although I would have Rose at left back.

2 DMs - tick
Lamela on right - tick
Townsend on left for pace and crossing - tick

I think AVB will play Sandro and Paulinho though. And then maybe Holtby instead of CE for his pressing game. All I really want to see is Lamela right, Townsend left. I can't believe it hasn't happened yet.

thinktank · Nov 11, 2013

DEFchenkOE said:
Your guess is as good as mine but it's costing us since Naughton isn't a leftback and Verts doesn't want to play there.

Pretty frustrating that for whatever reason AVB couldn't resolve his differences with Benny and have him as part of the squad. It's the kind of thing that could end up costing him his job in the end.

Saw benny play against reading for QPR. This guy is a wildcard. Not an option. We should have bought in the summer, inexplicable that we didn't. Just poor planning all-round.

We always leave ourselves short in one way or another. Never finish a transfer job properly. Ever.

ajspurs · Nov 11, 2013

thinktank said:
Saw benny play against reading for QPR. This guy is a wildcard. Not an option. We should have bought in the summer, inexplicable that we didn't. Just poor planning all-round.

We always leave ourselves short in one way or another. Never finish a transfer job properly. Ever.

Have seen him enough for us to know that he is at least a capable back up option though. The fact that we didn't buy in that position is one thing but to sell in that same position to make us even more short is baffling.

TheSecretNonFootballer · Nov 11, 2013

thinktank said:
Saw benny play against reading for QPR. This guy is a wildcard. Not an option. We should have bought in the summer, inexplicable that we didn't. Just poor planning all-round.

We always leave ourselves short in one way or another. Never finish a transfer job properly. Ever.

Well I think giving Rose a proper crack was the plan. Not having cover for him has obviously become an issue, but signing cover is not something that people tend to do. Not many players want to be signed as backup. Not good ones anyway.

DEFchenkOE · Nov 11, 2013

thinktank said:
Saw benny play against reading for QPR. This guy is a wildcard. Not an option. We should have bought in the summer, inexplicable that we didn't. Just poor planning all-round.

We always leave ourselves short in one way or another. Never finish a transfer job properly. Ever.

Yet still this is the same guy that played left back for us in the same seasons where we actually qualified for the CL and played in it.

Tbh I haven't watched QPR and I think we all know he was a liability at times but I'd still take him there over Naughton any day of the week.

And I've just seen that Vlad has a broken nose so he could be out for a while.

felmani26 · Nov 11, 2013

DEFchenkOE said:
Yet still this is the same guy that played left back for us in the same seasons where we actually qualified for the CL and played in it.

Tbh I haven't watched QPR and I think we all know he was a liability at times but I'd still take him there over Naughton any day of the week.

And I've just seen that Vlad has a broken nose so he could be out for a while.

Where did you hear this?

Reece · Nov 11, 2013

Lloris
Walker Kaboul Vertonghen Rose
Sandro Dembele
Lennon Eriksen Lamela
Soldado

DEFchenkOE · Nov 11, 2013

Just google his name and you will see it, he's out of Romania's wc qualifiers.

thinktank · Nov 11, 2013

ajspurs said:
Have seen him enough for us to know that he is at least a capable back up option though. The fact that we didn't buy in that position is one thing but to sell in that same position to make us even more short is baffling.

He's a massive liability and totally undisciplined. He's not gonna change because he doesn't want to. Can't have him here.

thinktank · Nov 11, 2013

DEFchenkOE said:
Tbh I haven't watched QPR and I think we all know he was a liability at times but I'd still take him there over Naughton any day of the week.

And I've just seen that Vlad has a broken nose so he could be out for a while.

I'd use fryers over Naughton. Not sure when fit though. We seem to be kept in the dark about injuries. Not much public info from the club.

DEFchenkOE · Nov 11, 2013

thinktank said:
I'd use fryers over Naughton. Not sure when fit though. We seem to be kept in the dark about injuries. Not much public info from the club.

AVB didn't even trust Fryers in some of the earlier Europa Lge games, I can't see him using him in the league tbh.

thinktank · Nov 11, 2013

DEFchenkOE said:
AVB didn't even trust Fryers in some of the earlier Europa Lge games, I can't see him using him in the league tbh.

Plan was obviously to bring him on slowly...you know what aVb is like. I think we'll see more cameos from him when fit.

idontgetit · Nov 11, 2013

Sp3akerboxxx said:
Blaugrana, read this: http://www.oneworldsports.com/stories/depth-analysis-3-6-1-formation

I honestly feel that 3-6-1 is the future of football and would suit our team perfectly. The 3-6-1 is all about pressing high up the pitch with a very active defence. It is extremely potent on the counter-attack, but also dominates possession through playing so many central players. It is reliant on hard working wingers however, as well as defenders who are good with the ball at feet, but we have those in Kaboul, Chirices, and Vertonghen.

Holy fuck that is a good article. There seems a lot of parrallels with the tactics AVB is using at the moment. The problem is that he doesnt realise you dont need a team of atheletes to play a pressing game and that you need classy players to create chances when directing all your play through congested channels

thinktank · Nov 11, 2013

Syn_13 said:
It's an interesting line up, but I don't think the wide men will work. I watch lots of Serie A where 3-6-1 and 3-5-2 are commonly used. The 3-5-2 is my favourite formation and, when done well, is deadly. Juve last night showed a perfect example of it against Napoli both offensively and defensively when Napoli regained possession. Juve also went 3-6-1 last year a few times with Marchisio playing off the striker.

I think we do have the right players for it and I've posted my version of a 3-5-2 team in the "Our Best 11" thread. I would actually play Walker and Rose as the wing backs because they have the stamina to do that role. If anyone, I dropped Townsend as he doesn't suit the formation.

Nonetheless, I don't think we'll ever employ it in the near future. Firstly, because AVB hasn't ever used it and probably doesn't care for it; and secondly, it's something you've got to work hard on through pre-season and practice. A 3 man defence with 2 wing backs is a massive change from the standard flat back 4 that we always use and it'll take a lot of time to get players used to it. It can be done in the EPL though - both Martinez and Rodgers have done it well.

Definitely think it would suit us, I'd go for this:

That's my dream but will never happen in a million with AVB.

This system offers incredible flexibility though. Makes me rock 'ard!

JUSTINSIGNAL · Nov 11, 2013

thinktank said:
Definitely think it would suit us, I'd go for this:

That's my dream but will never happen in a million with AVB.

This system offers incredible flexibility though. Makes me rock 'ard!

Based on what? Since AVB has been in charge we have played 4-4-2, 4-4-1-1, 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-3. He's hardly tactically inflexible.

In fact, he's probably the most tactically flexible manager we've ever had.

thinktank · Nov 11, 2013

JUSTINSIGNAL said:
Based on what? Since AVB has been in charge we have played 4-4-2, 4-4-1-1, 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-3. He's hardly tactically inflexible.

In fact, he's probably the most tactically flexible manager we've ever had.

He's not gonna play 3-5-2. I don't care what he's played before; he bought these players in to play 4-2-3-1 and he's rarely going to deviate from that now. Keep watching....

Syn_13 · Nov 11, 2013

thinktank said:
Definitely think it would suit us, I'd go for this:

That's my dream but will never happen in a million with AVB.

This system offers incredible flexibility though. Makes me rock 'ard!

I'd love to give that a go. It pretty much covers all bases for me and has the creativity there in Lamela and Eriksen. Not sure AVB is a 3-5-2 kinda guy though.

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