Kendall
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You mention only starts, but those goals weren't all from starts, so your stats are skewed somewhat.
Both Pav and bent have gone several starts without scoring and been replaced by eachother.
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You mention only starts, but those goals weren't all from starts, so your stats are skewed somewhat.
Both Pav and bent have gone several starts without scoring and been replaced by eachother.
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I find it side-splittingly hilarious that supporters weaned on FM fail to see what three England Managers and a top four Premiership Manager has seen with Crouch being involved in their teams. A bit like Heskey really. Unappreciated while he goes about his business.
Bobishism
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I agree, Portsmouth capitulated after Harrys departure. It was also his best return, for a club, in a while.
raf18
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the reason he hasn't played much isnt because his delivery was bad, it was because lennon was playing so well. lennon dribbles and crosses low. bentley is very good at crossing high balls in - one of the reasons why his partnership with santa cruz was so successful. Who was he supposed to be aiming his crosses for last season? bent, defoe, keane and pav. hardly deadly in the air are they?
signing crouch and letting bentley go doesnt make sense even though it seems to be true.
Bobishism
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Bentley started (some - not sure the official statistic) 5 games under Harry before Harry saw fit to replace him with Lennon was coming into form. I think a lot of fans were calling for Lennon to start because he was playing that well. Anyway, Lennon went on an excellent run, and Bentley couldn't find a game.
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Where did you get this stat? ESPN say 5 stats.
PhilosoSPUR
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With the whole Crouch v Bent issue, last year's stats are important, but there is more to the story. I will try to outline it here:
1. Harry doesn't want Bent.
a. Bent doesn't fit into the Spurs system and would be happier at Blackburn or Sunderland, or anywhere they just knock the ball up to him on the break. maybe Charlton?
b. Bent doesn't compliment Defoe or Keane very well, nor does he bring other players into the game very often. His goals are the full story.
c. Bent doesn't seem happy at Spurs and looks ready for a move.
2. Harry does want Crouch
a. Crouch does in fact play our style of game. He looks funny, but he is actually very skillful and will do well with passes to his feet as well as with the crosses. He isn't the finisher that Bent is, but he can control the ball and control play, which is our way.
b. He has a good relationship with Defoe, who is the best finisher we have. He could also compliment Keane well, who needs a strike partner to bring him into the game. Crouch is no Berbatov, but he is in that vein, and that's what we need.
c. Crouch started at Spurs, has played for Harry several times, and has rejected Sunderland to come to us. He always seems to have a good attitude, and that counts for a lot.
1. Harry doesn't want Bent.
a. Bent doesn't fit into the Spurs system and would be happier at Blackburn or Sunderland, or anywhere they just knock the ball up to him on the break. maybe Charlton?
b. Bent doesn't compliment Defoe or Keane very well, nor does he bring other players into the game very often. His goals are the full story.
c. Bent doesn't seem happy at Spurs and looks ready for a move.
2. Harry does want Crouch
a. Crouch does in fact play our style of game. He looks funny, but he is actually very skillful and will do well with passes to his feet as well as with the crosses. He isn't the finisher that Bent is, but he can control the ball and control play, which is our way.
b. He has a good relationship with Defoe, who is the best finisher we have. He could also compliment Keane well, who needs a strike partner to bring him into the game. Crouch is no Berbatov, but he is in that vein, and that's what we need.
c. Crouch started at Spurs, has played for Harry several times, and has rejected Sunderland to come to us. He always seems to have a good attitude, and that counts for a lot.
He is very unappreciated.
I find it funny, that plenty of spurs fans would never be happy with any forward, ever.
We are often tagged with the word deluded, and I'm afraid those who think Crouch isn't good enough, that word kinda applies, because we cannot get anyone who is possibly a better player.
Simple as that really, Crouch is about the best we can get, and mostly thats down to him wanting to play for Redknapp anyway.
Personally, I'm on the side of welcoming Crouch, keeping Bent, getting rid of Pav.
Defoe, maybe Keane kept too of course!
I find it funny, that plenty of spurs fans would never be happy with any forward, ever.
We are often tagged with the word deluded, and I'm afraid those who think Crouch isn't good enough, that word kinda applies, because we cannot get anyone who is possibly a better player.
Simple as that really, Crouch is about the best we can get, and mostly thats down to him wanting to play for Redknapp anyway.
Personally, I'm on the side of welcoming Crouch, keeping Bent, getting rid of Pav.
Defoe, maybe Keane kept too of course!
kaz Hirai
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no one was more off colour than us for half of the season so thats no excuse for his goal and assist return in comparision with our 4 strikers. but i understand what pro crouch folks are saying, that he'll link up well and provide balance, and i really hope he does
theShiznit
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so Crouch is done is it?
i keep seeing "he's good on the floor"
For his size yes, for a normal person not so much.
He is very slow of movement (on and off the ball) his contribution to open play is greatly exaggerated, yes he can bring the ball out of the air and knock it off, but this is purely way your facing stuff or at best to a wide man, and bizarrely he has no clue when a player simply stands a few feet off him where the defender is and his slow movement then jeopardises his control in these circumstances, the good thing is most defenders try and engage so he knows where they are and can shield accordingly.
He is not going to give and go (more of a give and eventually get there) and that is what players like Modric thrive on; players popping the ball and then moving into another position to receive it and also players that can see beyond the first pass (unlike O'Hara Eek and Jenas) when you have three or four players like this that is when you get great football, at the moment i think we have two Modric and Pav possibly Keane...
I believe he (Crouch) will offer us a different option but hope it is not to the detriment of Pav whom i believe to be our most inventive/creative striker (yes more so than Keane) and i Also don't believe that KJH would greatly improve our play being similar in ability in build up play to Bent.
So Vieira in to make Hudd, Palacios better players and Crouch to be third choice striker... in world cup year... (i'm hoping anway)
all i am saying is give Pav a chance (my new chant for this season)
i keep seeing "he's good on the floor"
For his size yes, for a normal person not so much.
He is very slow of movement (on and off the ball) his contribution to open play is greatly exaggerated, yes he can bring the ball out of the air and knock it off, but this is purely way your facing stuff or at best to a wide man, and bizarrely he has no clue when a player simply stands a few feet off him where the defender is and his slow movement then jeopardises his control in these circumstances, the good thing is most defenders try and engage so he knows where they are and can shield accordingly.
He is not going to give and go (more of a give and eventually get there) and that is what players like Modric thrive on; players popping the ball and then moving into another position to receive it and also players that can see beyond the first pass (unlike O'Hara Eek and Jenas) when you have three or four players like this that is when you get great football, at the moment i think we have two Modric and Pav possibly Keane...
I believe he (Crouch) will offer us a different option but hope it is not to the detriment of Pav whom i believe to be our most inventive/creative striker (yes more so than Keane) and i Also don't believe that KJH would greatly improve our play being similar in ability in build up play to Bent.
So Vieira in to make Hudd, Palacios better players and Crouch to be third choice striker... in world cup year... (i'm hoping anway)
all i am saying is give Pav a chance (my new chant for this season)
Rupstoh
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These stat things really pee me off.
Anyone who goes to watch football knows that a channel runner is as vital as a goal scorer when a goal is scored.
Stats belong in American Football where the play stops and starts, as does the clock.
Stats, such as assists, do not belong in proper football.
Anyone who goes to watch football knows that a channel runner is as vital as a goal scorer when a goal is scored.
Stats belong in American Football where the play stops and starts, as does the clock.
Stats, such as assists, do not belong in proper football.
kaz Hirai
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so if we went out a bought a creative midfielder to replace modric and his assists for last season were 1 in 40 games you would dismiss it?
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im with ya.
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Although Crouch is better than Bent and Pavlyuchenko.
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Although Crouch is better than Bent and Pavlyuchenko.
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