Your realistic squad for next season

[spurs9]

I'm not convinced, not due to him personally, but due to our rubbish team that should be (but dont) supply him enough. That and his confidence being shot when he does get chances.

Anyway two strikers with the potential to score 20 league goals each is what we need

Pretty greedy considering only 2 players have scored 20 or more goals in the league this year (although they do play for the same team).

 

[RuskyM]

We don't need two strikers who can score 20+.

We need the two players who are capable of banging them in and creating them that we spent £56m on last year to start doing that.

 

[guy]

Liverpool's 2 strikers: 51 goals
Man city's 3: 42
Utds 2: 29
Arses 2: 24

Ours 16, not to mention they all have midfielders outscoring ours (by a lot in most cases).

Goals win games, we need two strikers with the potential to score 20 each.

I really think it is that simple!

 

[Albertcoys]

Begovic(Friedel)
Walker(Frdericks)--Dawson(Caulker)--Kaboul(Vlad)--Rodriguez(Rose)
Sandro(Veljkovic)-----Bentaleb(Carroll)
Lamela(Townsend)----Eriksen(Holtby)----Konoplyanka(Tello)
Remy(Kane)
Sub: Archer, Fryers, A McQueen, Lesniak, Winks, Onomah, Oduwa

In: Begovic, Caulker, Rodriguez, Konoplyanka, Tello, Remy
Out: Lloris, Gomes, Vertonghen, Khumalo, Naughton, BAE, Capoue, Livermore, Dembele, Paulinho, Lennon, Chadli, Sigurdsson, Ceballos, Falque, Soldado, Adebayor​

 

[eddiebailey]

Some slimming of the squad is required to make headroom for new signings and returning loanees; part of the problem we have too many players who are too similar (we could pretty much field an entire team of players capable of operating as number tens).

My starting point is what we have now:

Players in bold are ones I want us to keep; as Tim says the rest are pretty much of a muchness.

Italics indicate where I think we need to upgrade as a priority (second keeper, lb, cb, cm playmaker), so the players named would be just a worst case scenario fallback.

"or" options indicate where one or other can be sold, released or, where appropriate, loaned.

For the rest we should be prepared to accept bids if the price is right and a potential upgrade is available, but I would not want to see more than half a dozen new signings in total.


Lloris
Gomes
Friedel or Archer
Walker
Naughton or Fredericks
Rose
Assou-Ekottu or Fryers
Dawson
Kaboul
Chiriches
Vertonghen
Sandro or Capoue
Carroll
Holtby or Bentelab
Livermore
Dembele or Paulinho or Sigurdsson
Eriksen
Mason or Pritchard
Lennon
Lamela
Chadli or Falque
Townsend
Adebayor
Soldado
Kane

That is 25 players, but Kane, Archer and Pritchard are still U21 so we might be able to squeeze and extra player or two into the squad.

 

[Tottenham_God]

Begovic(Friedel)
Walker(Frdericks)--Dawson(Caulker)--Kaboul(Vlad)--Rodriguez(Rose)
Sandro(Veljkovic)-----Bentaleb(Carroll)
Lamela(Townsend)----Eriksen(Holtby)----Konoplyanka(Tello)
Remy(Kane)
Sub: Archer, Fryers, A McQueen, Lesniak, Winks, Onomah, Oduwa

In: Begovic, Caulker, Rodriguez, Konoplyanka, Tello, Remy
Out: Lloris, Gomes, Vertonghen, Khumalo, Naughton, BAE, Capoue, Livermore, Dembele, Paulinho, Lennon, Chadli, Sigurdsson, Ceballos, Falque, Soldado, Adebayor​

Taking the piss son

 

[CJMurray]

Some slimming of the squad is required to make headroom for new signings and returning loanees; part of the problem we have too many players who are too similar (we could pretty much field an entire team of players capable of operating as number tens).

My starting point is what we have now:

Players in bold are ones I want us to keep; as Tim says the rest are pretty much of a muchness.

Italics indicate where I think we need to upgrade as a priority (second keeper, lb, cb, cm playmaker), so the players named would be just a worst case scenario fallback.

"or" options indicate where one or other can be sold, released or, where appropriate, loaned.

For the rest we should be prepared to accept bids if the price is right and a potential upgrade is available, but I would not want to see more than half a dozen new signings in total.


Lloris
Gomes
Friedel or Archer
Walker
Naughton or Fredericks
Rose
Assou-Ekottu or Fryers
Dawson
Kaboul
Chiriches
Vertonghen
Sandro or Capoue
Carroll
Holtby or Bentelab
Livermore
Dembele or Paulinho or Sigurdsson
Eriksen
Mason or Pritchard
Lennon
Lamela
Chadli or Falque
Townsend
Adebayor
Soldado
Kane

That is 25 players, but Kane, Archer and Pritchard are still U21 so we might be able to squeeze and extra player or two into the squad.

So Vertonghen, Sandro, Lamela and Adebayor are much of a muchness, but we need to keep Carroll and Kane?

 

[EJWTartanSpur]

Thats fair enough.........so for us to be in the mix for top 4 next season, we need to be scoring roughly 70 goals which is about 40% more than we have scored this season.
Thats a huge improvement required in that department and I don't see a strikeforce of Adebayor,Soldado and Harry Kane cutting it.

I don't agree with the way you are looking at this. The improvement in goals doesn't just come in player quality and buying new players though. More importantly, if we have a more cogent and suitable attacking plan tactically, then these three strikers could altogether score a lot more goals than they did do this season. The far cheaper and more easily attainable plan of action is to have a manager who has managed a football team before, and can get us playing the correct way to accentuate the likes of Soldado.

Having said that, I would happily take a nice sum for Adebayor and get his wages off the books. We should be looking for a younger well scouted talented forward to compete with Soldado. We've done it before in other areas of the pitch and its now time to spend a little on a talented 20-23 year old striker.

 

[Dazza86]

Begovic(Friedel)
Walker(Frdericks)--Dawson(Caulker)--Kaboul(Vlad)--Rodriguez(Rose)
Sandro(Veljkovic)-----Bentaleb(Carroll)
Lamela(Townsend)----Eriksen(Holtby)----Konoplyanka(Tello)
Remy(Kane)
Sub: Archer, Fryers, A McQueen, Lesniak, Winks, Onomah, Oduwa

In: Begovic, Caulker, Rodriguez, Konoplyanka, Tello, Remy
Out: Lloris, Gomes, Vertonghen, Khumalo, Naughton, BAE, Capoue, Livermore, Dembele, Paulinho, Lennon, Chadli, Sigurdsson, Ceballos, Falque, Soldado, Adebayor​

So many problems with this...

It worries me that this is the sort of thinking that happens inside the club.

 

[eddiebailey]

So Vertonghen, Sandro, Lamela and Adebayor are much of a muchness, but we need to keep Carroll and Kane?

For Carroll and Kane next season is potential breakthrough, it would be stupid to loan them and we would get bog all for selling them. So yes I want to keep.

Vertongehn has has a sulk on for twelve months.
Sandro is broken.
Lamela looks potentially overpriced - if we can sell him for what we got for him, fine.
Adebayor is problematical.

 

[Shadydan]

Liverpool's 2 strikers: 51 goals
Man city's 3: 42
Utds 2: 29
Arses 2: 24

Ours 16, not to mention they all have midfielders outscoring ours (by a lot in most cases).

Goals win games, we need two strikers with the potential to score 20 each.

I really think it is that simple!

My question is who do we get in and where is the money coming from?

 

[Tom Pops]

My question is who do we get in and where is the money coming from?

Look at what Sturridge did at Pool , Bony and previously Michu at Swansea, Benteke at Villa, Rodriguez at Southampton, even Sam Vokes and Danny Ings at Burnley.

Those players were cheap, some VERY cheap. I said before it's not about throwing money at players - like we did in summer. That's what sets apart a good manager from the rest

 

[Shadydan]

Look at what Sturridge did at Pool , Bony and previously Michu at Swansea, Benteke at Villa, Rodriguez at Southampton, even Sam Vokes and Danny Ings at Burnley.

Those players were cheap, some VERY cheap. I said before it's not about throwing money at players - like we did in summer. That's what sets apart a good manager from the rest

So as I asked, who do we get in that's going to guarantee us 20 goals in the Premiership?

 

[CJMurray]

For Carroll and Kane next season is potential breakthrough, it would be stupid to loan them and we would get bog all for selling them. So yes I want to keep.

Vertongehn has has a sulk on for twelve months.
Sandro is broken.
Lamela looks potentially overpriced - if we can sell him for what we got for him, fine.
Adebayor is problematical.

Vertonghen has a sulk on because he's been playing next to fucking Dawson and Rose for 12 months. I'd be fucking pissed if I were him too, doesn't mean we should sell him though, he's still class. Sandro is not broken. Lamela is our most talented player who hasn't even had a chance to impress us yet, senseless to want to sell him. I can see the argument for selling Ade, although he is incredibly talented.

These players aren't a 'much of a muchness'. We should be looking to make Vertonghen, Sandro and Lamela the spine of our team, because we won't be getting much better than them any time soon.

 

[dagraham]

It goes without saying we need a LB and a replacement for Verts, but I haven't a clue who we should go for.

Other than that, I know its very optimistic but the three players who would transform us imo are Lukaku, Remy and Lallana. Obviously that's going to cost a serious wedge, but I fully expect us to sell Verts, Ade, Sig and I would be happy to let Paulinho go if we got a large offer of 20m+.

 

[bceej]

It goes without saying we need a LB and a replacement for Verts, but I haven't a clue who we should go for.

Other than that, I know its very optimistic but the three players who would transform us imo are Lukaku, Remy and Lallana. Obviously that's going to cost a serious wedge, but I fully expect us to sell Verts, Ade, Sig and I would be happy to let Paulinho go if we got a large offer of 20m+.

LB: Ricardo Rodriguez, Alex Sandro, Alberto Moreno
LCB: Inigo Martinez, Marcos Rojo (Liverpool target, despite having loads of CB options now...), Eliaquim Mangala

Personally think we should upgrade the right side of the defence too. It has been incredibly leaky throughout really.

Haven't particularly been on the look out for a right back so no suggestions there really.

RCB: Ezekiel Garay, Fabian Schar

This is all unless whoever comes in can really whip our defence into shape/they don't want to leave...

 

[markieboy]

Vertonghen has a sulk on because he's been playing next to fucking Dawson and Rose for 12 months. I'd be fucking pissed if I were him too, doesn't mean we should sell him though, he's still class. Sandro is not broken. Lamela is our most talented player who hasn't even had a chance to impress us yet, senseless to want to sell him. I can see the argument for selling Ade, although he is incredibly talented.

These players aren't a 'much of a muchness'. We should be looking to make Vertonghen, Sandro and Lamela the spine of our team, because we won't be getting much better than them any time soon.

You are looking at them by reputation and unfortunately reputation doesn't win football matches..........performance does' and none of these three have performed to any decent standard this year for one reason or another.
I have seen very little of Lamela but what I have seen so far I wouldn't rate him any higher than Adel Taraabt.
He may well prove me wrong in the future but I can only measure him on what he has produced in a Spurs shirt so far.
Sandro looks nothing less than a liability,he is a yard short of pace and after a terrible injury may never be the player we all thought he might be.
Vertonghen looks disinterested regardless of who he was playing with this season...that attitude may or may not change ......who knows?

 

[double0]

To much loving going on for players that don't deserve it and quite frankly let the fans down with their inept performances and attitudes (some saving themselves for the world cup some not giving a toss some not taking responsibility).

Players like Bentaleb who got unbelieveable (unjust) stick deserve credit for showing some bulls, Naughton Lloris Eriksen Kane Adebayor also Walker when fit... I have no problem with them being in our squd next season.

 

[bubble07]

Shaw and Lukaku will do

 

[beats1]

So many problems with this...

It worries me that this is the sort of thinking that happens inside the club.

What kind of thinking is that, Im struggling to think of a scenario where we don't sell alot of players and buy around 6ish.

We have too many players, players who want to leave and need replace the guys who have been poor/retiring(potentially Friedel, Dawson and Kaboul)