Will FFP finally put spurs where they belong?

[kernowspurscoach1977]

Not sure Spurs 'belong' anywhere other than where they deserve to be on merit. The same as any other club.

What it hopefully will do is put other clubs who have ignored the rules back where they 'belong' so the playing field is much more fair and level. The way it should have been 20 years ago.

By belong I did not mean on a successful basis - more as a financial footing

with the income streams we now have we should be up there having real
Financial clout and being to offer the best deals - as it has been as we all know - all that happens is the state funded clubs overpay and pay insane wages Blowing most other clubs out of the water.

let’s hope FFP creates the level Playing field it should have done - imagine City or Chelsea without the capacity to spend anything other than their income

 

[Ghost Hardware]

When spurs built their new Stadium as they had worked to a stringent budget for years, I always hoped this would catapult us into being able To Financially compete and therefore competitively compete at the top, but the era of sport washing destroyed my hopes.

I thought FFP was a toothless lip service that would never be implemented properly.

with recent rulings and clubs now fearful of reprisals will this put us on a new level where a self- sustaining well run club like us can sign players whilst others who have bankrolled have to sit on their hands and watch.
I myself will applaud every fine/points deduction/ maybe relegation that occurs and think it will make For a fairer more competitive league!

Dan… is that you

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

Some are waiting for a big club to punished over FFP, think if you talk to Everton fans they consider themselves a big club as Spurs fans have always done even through some pretty dismal years such as relegation and permanent mid table positions throughout the 90's.
Everton have won FA Cup and Div one much more recently than us, in fact they have won Div one title four times since we last won it.
On the financial side though clubs like Everton have fallen way behind, in 2004/5 Everton were in 18th position in the Deloitte money league with income of 88.8 million euros , we were in 13th place with income of 104.5 million euros so they weren't that far behind, also another club now with FFP problems Newcastle were above us in 12th position, just shows the Levy effect, on finances he is a genius but on silverware keep the duraglit in the draw for the time being.

 

[soflapaul]

What would these bug clubs be called though?

Praying Mantis-ter United?
Tottenham Mothspur?
Fleaverpool?

Grasshopper Zurich? Wasp Bromwich Albion? Fleawood Town? Inter MilAnt?
(Entries 2 and 4 courtesy of Chat BeePT)

On the serious side of things, it is good to see FFP finally beginning to bite. With regards to Man City and Chelsea, one would hope that the punishment is commensurate with the crime. If their cooking of the books is as bad as it sounds, any lack of cooperation should magnify the punishment. While i still worry that DL skirted the lines, he deserves some credit for his strategic approach to the financials. (Thank heaven we didn't get the Olympic Stadium). Is the Swiss Ramble the best place to follow the story?

 

[BPR_U16]

As far as I know, Everton and Forest complied with the investigation and 'fessed up' to their transgressions. City, on the other hand, have spent years and millions on legal fees to obstruct and mislead their investigation. That should have some bearing on their punishment. Chelsea seemed to think they'd get some sort of a clean slate (on top of the written off 1.5 billion of Abramovic money) but I doubt that will get much sympathy now with the stinging punishment Everton have already been given.

Agree that Everton and Forest have agreed that they transgressed - but they are still asking for certain matters to be taken into consideration, Everton in particular stating that rules changed during the process and that loan interest on stadium build was allowable but is now not.

The issue i believe is that there is a disagreement as to the purpose of the loans - what was for new stadium and what was for servicing running of EFC as they are broke. They have not been helped by fact that finance team at Everton have not been co-operative, and are of course part of the Board that the supporters hate because of the mismanagement of the club.

 

[Nayim60yards]

Grasshopper Zurich? Wasp Bromwich Albion? Fleawood Town? Inter MilAnt?
(Entries 2 and 4 courtesy of Chat BeePT)

Putting you on ignore.

Careful Sofla- you might be joining me outside of the Ma-Trix...

 

[vegassd]

While I agree that the biggest step is one of the biggest clubs getting punished, just the threat of punishment appears to be having an impact on rival spending.

I do think that we might have to come to terms with the idea that some punishments that we feel are justified might never come to pass, and that getting the transfer market back into a reasonable shape is the best outcome for us anyway.

It sounds like the Premier League use 30th June as the end of the accounting period, so I wonder if we are going to start to see a flurry of transfer activity in that last week of June for clubs who need to balance the books, assuming player registrations won't transfer until the transfer window opens. It would be great if our transfer committee could start finding bargains at the very start of a window rather than waiting for the end of it.

 

[Gassin's finest]

Yeah, right...

 

[dovahkiin]

i wasnt listening closely as i was busy with other things but this lawyer guy who was on talksport earlier, apparently he used to work for city, said something like that city are certain to be relegated and maybe all the way to league 2, and that there was no question that they would be found guilty, i think that was the gist of it

 

[Westmorlandspur]

i wasnt listening closely as i was busy with other things but this lawyer guy who was on talksport earlier, apparently he used to work for city, said something like that city are certain to be relegated and maybe all the way to league 2, and that there was no question that they would be found guilty, i think that was the gist of it

Didn’t say they would be found guilty. Guardiola will be interesting if guilty. Will have to walk after what he has said previously.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

City were found guilty by CAS of obstructing the UEFA investigation and fined £8.5 million for that , the PL have 35 charges of obstruction so bound to be found guilty on some of them, probably worth, deportation, how about Rwanda.

 

[dovahkiin]

Didn’t say they would be found guilty. Guardiola will be interesting if guilty. Will have to walk after what he has said previously.

im pretty sure i heard that, although later, when h&j summed it up i think
edit: unless h&j _(or h&b or whoever it is today)were refering to someone else

 

[Tucker]

i wasnt listening closely as i was busy with other things but this lawyer guy who was on talksport earlier, apparently he used to work for city, said something like that city are certain to be relegated and maybe all the way to league 2, and that there was no question that they would be found guilty, i think that was the gist of it

Just watched it on YouTube. He actually believed City would get off because the charges are just so difficult to prove. May have been wishful thinking on his part though as he’s a huge City fan.

 

[dovahkiin]

Just watched it on YouTube. He actually believed City would get off because the charges are just so difficult to prove. May have been wishful thinking on his part though as he’s a huge City fan.

you're right

 

[LSUY]

Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.

I fear no matter what we are destined to float between 2nd and 15th.

 

[archiewasking]

Didn’t say they would be found guilty. Guardiola will be interesting if guilty. Will have to walk after what he has said previously.

They're even taking his car???!

 

[rossdapep]

Just watched it on YouTube. He actually believed City would get off because the charges are just so difficult to prove. May have been wishful thinking on his part though as he’s a huge City fan.

This is my worry.

City will drag it out by finding any loophole or making accusations as frivolous as they have probably got them covered and itll be hard to prove.

We all know theyve cheated, they know everyone knows (City fans have even Said they dont care) but they will make this a long battle and hope the PL just cant continue using resources to fight them.

 

[sherbornespurs]

Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.

I fear no matter what we are destined to float between 2nd and 15th.

Ah the irony. 'In Bruges' was of course released in 2008, the last time we.............well, you know the rest.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

Thought the way that bloke was so dismissive of the charges of obstructing the UEFA investigation a bit arrogant, even if City just get found guilty on 35 obstruction charges a deduction of a point a piece will do for starters.
For some of the charges , why would the PL go with the same evidence that UEFA produced , wouldn't make much sense.

 

[HodisGawd]

FFP is is have an effect right now and not just in terms of punishment. What it's really doing is having a cooling effect on the spending of our rivals, which is great for us because we have the headroom to spend.