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Why are we still playing 4-5-1?

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i understand the fact that playing reverse flank gives an advantage for the winger to get a shot off anything...which is an amazing formation to play if we do not have any striker. but hte problem is that even after we play this formation, we still lose..so why arent we trying 4-4-2? everything when 1 of our players get sent off and we are force to revert to 4-4-1, the offense flowed so much better...they say pav and bent couldnt play together..then we cant we make them learn to play with each other? why are we still trying to a formation we cannot win instead of making a gamble that might let us score some goes?
 

paddy30

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i understand the fact that playing reverse flank gives an advantage for the winger to get a shot off anything...which is an amazing formation to play if we do not have any striker. but hte problem is that even after we play this formation, we still lose..so why arent we trying 4-4-2? everything when 1 of our players get sent off and we are force to revert to 4-4-1, the offense flowed so much better...they say pav and bent couldnt play together..then we cant we make them learn to play with each other? why are we still trying to a formation we cannot win instead of making a gamble that might let us score some goes?
Just shows dat PAV def wasnt a Ramos signin if he cant play him with Bent! True tho why not make them learn how to play together surely players on that amount of money and call themselves professionals can do that or do they really care bout the dilema our club is in:bang::bang::bang:
 

Krafty

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In Europe I can see it being a problem (playing 4-4-2) but whyw e played 4-5-1 against Stoke I have no idea.

If we play it again on sunday then my faith in Ramos will have almost evaporated, we need the win, we cant keep clean sheets, so lets grab the game by the scruff of the neck and go all out for the win.

Audere est facere
 

EZSpur

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I think you're spot on, personally i think playing a 4-4-2 would settle the players, but players would have to be picked in the right positions - ie Bentley on the RIGHT, Gio (or possibly Lennon) on the left, leave Modric on the bench, put Jenas and Zok/Hudd in the centre! and put Bale at LB.

And either Bent and Pav or Campbell upfront!!

The fact is, the players know how to play a 4-4-2, and with 2 strikers our midfield have more of a target!

No more 4-5-1, its not working!!!!
 

southgatespur40

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because jenas is an untouchable as is modric and well modric doesnt know a thing about tracking back and so this is the only way to play in ramos' eyes.
 

paddy30

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because jenas is an untouchable as is modric and well modric doesnt know a thing about tracking back and so this is the only way to play in ramos' eyes.
So true im sick and tired that jenas is walkin into our team every week the big softie is not even worth a place on the bench:bang: We should try corluka in the middle of the park seen him play there for man city and a great job he did.Wud also get the best out of modric then:beer:
 

SpurSince57

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Just shows dat PAV def wasnt a Ramos signin if he cant play him with Bent! True tho why not make them learn how to play together surely players on that amount of money and call themselves professionals can do that or do they really care bout the dilema our club is in:bang::bang::bang:

According to all the ITK we received over the summer, Pavlyuchenko was top of our wish list. This suggests Ramos very much wanted him.

Does anyone in their right mind expect two strikers to establish an understanding after a couple of games and a handful of training sessions—especially when one of them's completely new to the EPL and speaks hardly any English?

Apart from that, it was Gus who said that Bent and Pav couldn't play together. Ramos said that the reason we went one up front against Pompey with Pav was that Bent needed a rest and that it had worked against the Barcodes.

Take your pick.
 

paddy30

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According to all the ITK we received over the summer, Pavlyuchenko was top of our wish list. This suggests Ramos very much wanted him.

Does anyone in their right mind expect two strikers to establish an understanding after a couple of games and a handful of training sessions—especially when one of them's completely new to the EPL and speaks hardly any English?

Apart from that, it was Gus who said that Bent and Pav couldn't play together. Ramos said that the reason we went one up front against Pompey with Pav was that Bent needed a rest and that it had worked against the Barcodes.

Take your pick.
The only way for them to learn how to play together is surely to play them upfront together regardless of how long Pav is playin in england we need goals:beer:
 

liam17oi

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We didn't buy Pav to play with Bent, we bought him to play with another striker, say Arshavin which unfortunately, with Zenit constantly taking the piss didn't happen. I still think they can play together though
 

wojch

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Two mice wouldn't run together, as their ancestors did, to confuse the cat. They would change the way, split and that would minimalise the risk of being caught.

Most clubs all over the world play 4-4-2. We just have to cut that bullshit of Jenas & Co being untouchable. They are crap. Crap goes down the drain. After distillation it comes back as a pure water.
 
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