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rez9000

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mark_2017 said:
He also skipped the day god was handing out brain cells.
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He just comes across as genuinely unpleasant - in fact, all the AFTV lot do, mainly because there is such an undercurrent of entitlement to everything they say and do.

Are Arsenal a big club? Yes, it can be very cogently argued that they are. But are they bigger than any other club outside the likes of, say, Man U, Barca or Real Madrid? That's harder to argue. And then you have to actually say what being 'big' as a football club means.

This may sound like a weird time and place to bring it up, but there's a interesting problem in logical thought - the vague predicate. And that in turn leads to something called the Sorites Paradox.

The Sorites Paradox usually involves a heap of sand. Everyone looks at it and agrees that it's a heap. You then take individual grains of sand away. At what point does it stop being a heap? If there's one grain of sand left, does that single grain of sand still constitute a heap? This is an example of a vague predicate - when does a heap become a heap and vice versa?

Likewise, to describe a club as 'big' is a vague predicate. Most people will agree that this club is big and that club isn't, but it's still not really definitive because were you to slowly take away the things that people agree make a club big, does it remain big? At what point does it stop being big?

Where am I going with this? Well, the characters on AFTV seem hell-bent on sticking to the notion that Arsenal are a bigger club than Spurs and a lot of others. It could be argued that they are a more successful club than us and many others in terms of trophies won, but then Huddersfield are three time League champions. Are they a big club? Big and successful are not the same thing. The insistence AFTV characters have on wanting to be viewed as a bigger club makes their attitude a very entitled one, not just with regard us, but also with regard other clubs. And that's what makes them unpleasant when they are on the show (I can't speak to what they're like outside, of course).

They spend their time becoming angry about the fact that they're doing badly. But 1) that's part of football - every club goes through cycles of boom and bust; and 2) just because you used to be successful doesn't mean you have a right to it being delivered to you on a plate, season-in, season-out. You have to work for it. But they pour scorn on any club they believe is 'smaller' than theirs and then get angry when that 'smaller' club doesn't read the script and actually gives them a game.

And out of them all, the one that seems most stuck in that mindset, and is also very aggressive with it, is DT.

That said, it's fucking hilarious to watch when they lose!
 
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Kane winning a free-kick at the edge of our box. Arsenal player jumps for the ball Kane doesn't and just stands his ground so the Arsenal player goes flying.
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Ah ok, thanks.

Honestly that chap on the back right is cloned in every SE London pub I have ever been in.
 
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RickyVilla

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Just the one?
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