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Well it’s welcome, particularly if we can get Kendall back too ?Sometimes I just feel the urge to dip my head out of retirement!!
Well it’s welcome, particularly if we can get Kendall back too ?Sometimes I just feel the urge to dip my head out of retirement!!
Haha, oh the scenes!! Get the band back together!!!Well it’s welcome, particularly if we can get Kendall back too ?
He might actually have the glimmer of a point here. Mason is the golden boy who has been fast tracked beyond his competence. Powell is a highly experienced coach who was overlooked because.....? We don’t know, but I think it’s fair to assume that optics were more important than experience here, and for whatever reason the inexperienced Mason was seen as more of a crowd pleaser than the highly experienced Powell.
That’s not racism, but it might fall under unconscious bias. The gammons will never accept it though.
If the decision is being made on optics/crowd pleasing (rather than coaching experience) then surely the victim of "structural racism" here would be Ledley King not Chris Powell who never played for us? Ledley fits both bills.
But WIndy was specific about it being Chris Powell. Made me scratch my head.
Not at all clued up on this subject. But is there not the slightest possibility that Powell may have been asked to take on the position but just didn't fancy it & said he'd be happy to be something of a guide for Mason?
You can't possibly know that, particularly if the racism was 'unconscious' on the part of whoever made the decision.There was no racism here, conscious or unconscious.
Is this ridiculous thread still going? There was no racism here, conscious or unconscious. The chairman had to find someone from within and he challenged Ryan with it, to see what he has. He's highly rated and seen as potential but that's nothing if you don't have the bollocks for it. Ryan Mason has a big future.
He’s a long way off being a candidate for a big club but he showed he can probably handle a certain amount of pressure and he can handle the media. I think they know he can coach but can he be a head coach or a manager?Time will tell but if the club are taking a long term approach then I’m all for that.I agree that I don't think the appointment was racist but the rest I just can't agree with. Mason isn't in the position he's in because he's highly rated.
Levy just needed someone to fill the hole for the last few games of the season and Mason is just a convenient choice because he's almost universally liked by the fans and Spurs giving him the job is good PR cos it looks like they're doing right by him after his tragic incident etc. It's got fuck all to do with his ability as a manager, it's a PR move.
Just to clarify I'm not trying to slag off Mason. For all we know he could go on to be a brilliant manager in the future. But the fact that he has been given this interim job for the last 5/6 games of the season is not because Levy has him pegged as some young genius who could potentially take the job full time. There's no way.
It’s one of those things in this situation we can’t tell. Unconscious discrimination isn’t even an aggressive thing. People need to see that it’s not about calling the N word or the P word. Levy isn’t sitting there consciously thinking oh Mason is better because he’s white. I think people need to stop getting offended when racism is brought up as a factor in life.Is this ridiculous thread still going? There was no racism here, conscious or unconscious. The chairman had to find someone from within and he challenged Ryan with it, to see what he has. He's highly rated and seen as potential but that's nothing if you don't have the bollocks for it. Ryan Mason has a big future.
You can't possibly know that, particularly if the racism was 'unconscious' on the part of whoever made the decision.
It’s one of those things in this situation we can’t tell. Unconscious discrimination isn’t even an aggressive thing. People need to see that it’s not about calling the N word or the P word. Levy isn’t sitting there consciously thinking oh Mason is better because he’s white. I think people need to stop getting offended when racism is brought up as a factor in life.
Ryan Mason's appointment was race based, he had no managerial experience, Chris Powell has actually managed professional teams put it this way if Ryan Mason had Chris Powell's experience and Chris Powell had Ryan Mason's experience who would you choose, wouldn't go with the one who has more experience?I think it's a very serious claim to make. That should require substantial evidence. When I listened to the pod and heard Windy say that, I cringed.
Mason struck me as an appointment that was clearly going to be for 7 matches only. The feeling around the club was rock bottom, and Levy probably thought hiring Mason would be a short term antidote that may boost the morale enough to see a response in the cup and league games. Appointing Powell as a coach would give Mason some experience to lean on.
Would Powell have accepted a 7 game managerial role? Was it cheaper/easier to just promote Mason? Do the club have high expectations for Mason in the future and thought now was a good opportunity to see whether there's a hint at a future managerial career?
We don't know. We don't know much about the people who make the decisions, nor what Powell and Mason wanted. Nor does Windy. To throw 'racism' around like that, just devalues the instances when it is clearly a factor in life.
Ryan Mason's appointment was race based, he had no managerial experience, Chris Powell has actually managed professional teams put it this way if Ryan Mason had Chris Powell's experience and Chris Powell had Ryan Mason's experience who would you choose, wouldn't go with the one who has more experience?