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May 17, 2018
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Apologies for the pun.

Interesting article - didn't even know it had occurred


Mamadou Sakho has received an apology from - and been paid substantial damages by - the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) after it wrongly asserted that the Crystal Palace defender had failed a drugs test during his time at Liverpool.
Sakho was suspended after testing positive in March 2016 for fat-burner Higenamine, which was not on WADA's list of banned substances. The French centre-back, who was playing for Liverpool at the time, served a provisional 30-day ban from all European football, which saw him miss the Europa League final and Euro 2016
 

beats1

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WADA is such a strange organisation they dont have the power to do what they want and they cant uphold any of their sentences as you dont need to prove innocence or doesn't matter if youre guilty, you just need to make sure the "judges" dont agree
 

BehindEnemyLines

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I don't know much about Higenamine, but it occurs to me that just because it wasn't on WADA's list of banned substances, doesn't mean it wasn't wrong to use it?
Does this mean that if you can find a new performance-enhancing substance then you are alright to use it until it appears on WADAs list? Seems odd to me!
 

PCozzie

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I don't know much about Higenamine, but it occurs to me that just because it wasn't on WADA's list of banned substances, doesn't mean it wasn't wrong to use it?
Does this mean that if you can find a new performance-enhancing substance then you are alright to use it until it appears on WADAs list? Seems odd to me!
In a general sense, yes. To some people caffeine is performance enhancing, to others a banana. An energy gel is performance enhancing, as is pasta.

What I am saying really is that I know just about enough to make a mildly irritating point, but nowhere near enough to answer your question.

Thankyou.
 

'O Zio

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I don't know much about Higenamine, but it occurs to me that just because it wasn't on WADA's list of banned substances, doesn't mean it wasn't wrong to use it?
Does this mean that if you can find a new performance-enhancing substance then you are alright to use it until it appears on WADAs list? Seems odd to me!

As the poster says above, it depends where you draw the line at performance enhancing. All sorts of things can enhance your performance to a certain extent so the only sensible way to enforce the rules is to have an explicit list of what is banned.

Also without knowing the details of what this drug is, some of the banned substances appear on everyday medicines that you might pick up from boots. It is perfectly possible to take some of these things without realising and so if it isnt explicitly banned how would you be expected to check for it before taking any medication?
 

Japhet

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As the poster says above, it depends where you draw the line at performance enhancing. All sorts of things can enhance your performance to a certain extent so the only sensible way to enforce the rules is to have an explicit list of what is banned.

Also without knowing the details of what this drug is, some of the banned substances appear on everyday medicines that you might pick up from boots. It is perfectly possible to take some of these things without realising and so if it isnt explicitly banned how would you be expected to check for it before taking any medication?


Same old problems with finding a framework that addresses the issue. Common decongestants found in cough medicines are designed to assist breathing and are therefore performance enhancing. You could argue that pain killers are performance enhancing because you are in less pain when you use them. Any type of medication is designed to help you operate better in most cases and therefore enhances performance to some degree. Listing all of the banned substances is about the only way to approach it, but then it's always possible to find new substances or generally sidestep the legislation. No wonder it's so ineffective and such a mess.
 

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I don't know much about Higenamine, but it occurs to me that just because it wasn't on WADA's list of banned substances, doesn't mean it wasn't wrong to use it?
Does this mean that if you can find a new performance-enhancing substance then you are alright to use it until it appears on WADAs list? Seems odd to me!
That is exactly what it means.
 
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