Tottenham should not be too quick to sell Foyth

[newbie]

he just needs a good run of games with a solid midfield in front of him, sadly this is unlikely!

 

[JimmyG2]

Like the boy.
has ambition and talent
and less accident prone
than say Aurier.
needs games and TLC.
Not Jse's strong suit.
I know who I'd get rid of.

 

[pagevee]

Don't think he's shown 'twice as much ability and potential' at all. They're both young and deserve time, but in fairness, Tanganga has made just as many mistakes and rash decisions as Foyth' he has however not been sent off for any of them. I'd say Tanganga is better defensively but Foyth is miles better with the ball at his feet.

I don't disagree with your sentiment in the post. They are both young and deserve the time to learn. That being said, what rash decisions has Tanganga made that were nearly as impactful as Foyth? I don't find the decision making abilities remotely similar.

I can accept red cards happening for a young/aggressive defender. I cannot understand the blatant stupidity of getting a red card minutes after being brought on after a teammate's red card caused a formation change. That specific red card created a justified need to question his decision making ability. It was ridiculously a unnecessary & stupid challenge. He seems to be very talented player and needs more playing time. However, if he is like Adel Tarraabt & Giovanni Dos Santos, he may just need to be cut loose due to an inability to learn or accept constructive criticism.

I don't have the answer, but while the talent/age is similar, the rash decisions are not remotely comparable to me. Foyth's decision making has been borderline insurmountable and the nature of his red card show it. Only the club/coaches know if he has accepted the justified criticism in order to learn from it. If they think he has learned from it then great. If he doesn't want to learn, then let him leave.

I am willing to accept either decision because the level of mistakes he has made have been much higher than acceptable. I am not willing to accept the club selling Tanganga and would be shocked if they were even considering it.

If I have to choose, I would not hesitate to keep Tanganga over Foyth specifically because of Foyth's unneccesary rash challenges that tend to result in red cards. To me, Foyth seems to be a younger version of Aurier. Since he is younger, people think the unnecessary challenges can be coached out of him. I will let the coaches decide if he can learn.

 

[ralvy]

I don't disagree with your sentiment in the post. They are both young and deserve the time to learn. That being said, what rash decisions has Tanganga made that were nearly as impactful as Foyth? I don't find the decision making abilities remotely similar.

I can accept red cards happening for a young/aggressive defender. I cannot understand the blatant stupidity of getting a red card minutes after being brought on after a teammate's red card caused a formation change. That specific red card created a justified need to question his decision making ability. It was ridiculously a unnecessary & stupid challenge. He seems to be very talented player and needs more playing time. However, if he is like Adel Tarraabt & Giovanni Dos Santos, he may just need to be cut loose due to an inability to learn or accept constructive criticism.

I don't have the answer, but while the talent/age is similar, the rash decisions are not remotely comparable to me. Foyth's decision making has been borderline insurmountable and the nature of his red card show it. Only the club/coaches know if he has accepted the justified criticism in order to learn from it. If they think he has learned from it then great. If he doesn't want to learn, then let him leave.

I am willing to accept either decision because the level of mistakes he has made have been much higher than acceptable. I am not willing to accept the club selling Tanganga and would be shocked if they were even considering it.

If I have to choose, I would not hesitate to keep Tanganga over Foyth specifically because of Foyth's unneccesary rash challenges that tend to result in red cards. To me, Foyth seems to be a younger version of Aurier. Since he is younger, people think the unnecessary challenges can be coached out of him. I will let the coaches decide if he can learn.

Look, a bad decision is still a bad decision, no matter the result. So, it doesn't really matter if Tanganga's rash decisions weren't as impactful as Foyth's, they still have to be judged based on their rashness and not on their outcome (as the later usually also has a luck factor attached to it).

Also, you're right that it was very immature the way Foyth got sacked in that match, but more senior and established players have acted in a similar way too during important match moments (like Dele, Son, Lloris, Vertonghen, etc), so I don't really think that single action is such a worrying sign as you seem to suggest it is.

Juan Foyth needs to be coached into keeping a cooler head and probably also into not being so aggressive during such challenges. I don't really think that's such an impossible task, but we'll see.