Tottenham boss Jose Mourinho ready to launch swoop for £26m-rated Milik

[mawspurs]

Tottenham are considering a move for Napoli’s Polish striker Arkadiusz Milik. The Serie A side are ready to sell former Ajax striker Milik, whose contract runs out next summer, but who has told Napoli that he does not want to sign a new deal.

Source: Daily Express

 

[Japhet]

Last I heard Milik didn't want to sign for us if Kane was here.

 

[Henry Percy]

Hopefully he can see that he'll get lots of opportunities, Kane needs rest and the option of a partner. Every year he breaks down because we over play him.

 

[davidmatzdorf]

Hopefully he can see that he'll get lots of opportunities, Kane needs rest and the option of a partner. Every year he breaks down because we over play him.

Every year he doesn't "break down" at all. That would be a description of a player who has chronic hamstring injuries or low-level illness. Kane has had a succession of impact injuries. IIRC, every one of his ankle injuries has been sustained in a tackle or collision. That's not the result of overplaying, it's the consequence of his committed playing style and the desperation of opponents to contain him.

His periods of ineffectiveness, especially upon return from injury, I would attribute to "overplaying" him in the sense of permitting him to return to the starting line-up too quickly. We know Kane demands this himself, so I reckon it takes a determined coach to impose a sensible recovery time on him.

[EDIT: subject to @Everlasting Seconds' caveat below]

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

Every year he doesn't "break down" at all. That would be a description of a player who has chronic hamstring injuries or low-level illness. Kane has had a succession of impact injuries. IIRC, every one of his ankle injuries has been sustained in a tackle or collision. That's not the result of overplaying, it's the consequence of his committed playing style and the desperation of opponents to contain him.

You can't entirely separate accidental injuries from potential fatigue impact. Most sports science suggests that if a body is fatigued when in an accidental injury situation, the impact of said situation can be a result of both the isolated incident and the fatigue.

For instance, just one example, if fatigued, then slower. If slower, then increased risk for suboptimal/altered timing. If suboptimal timing, then increase in risk for severe injury.

Hence, fatigue and accidents are much intertwined.
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Milik would be a very good signing.

 

[newbie]

Every year he doesn't "break down" at all. That would be a description of a player who has chronic hamstring injuries or low-level illness. Kane has had a succession of impact injuries. IIRC, every one of his ankle injuries has been sustained in a tackle or collision. That's not the result of overplaying, it's the consequence of his committed playing style and the desperation of opponents to contain him.

His periods of ineffectiveness, especially upon return from injury, I would attribute to "overplaying" him in the sense of permitting him to return to the starting line-up too quickly. We know Kane demands this himself, so I reckon it takes a determined coach to impose a sensible recovery time on him.

[EDIT: subject to @Everlasting Seconds' caveat below]

agree
I think Kane is flogged to death after watching the amazon doc, i feel for Kane, why does kane play so much for England he should be rested more often and looked after it should not solely be down to spurs!

 

[newbie]

You can't entirely separate accidental injuries from potential fatigue impact. Most sports science suggests that if a body is fatigued when in an accidental injury situation, the impact of said situation can be a result of both the isolated incident and the fatigue.

For instance, just one example, if fatigued, then slower. If slower, then increased risk for suboptimal/altered timing. If suboptimal timing, then increase in risk for severe injury.

Hence, fatigue and accidents are much intertwined.
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Milik would be a very good signing.

i think his hamstring last season was over played though

 

[UbeAstard]

agree
I think Kane is flogged to death after watching the amazon doc, i feel for Kane, why does kane play so much for England he should be rested more often and looked after it should not solely be down to spurs!

I dont think Kane would agree with you so would you be forcing his dissatisfaction?

 

[TonyK]

Ollie Watkins just been confirmed by Villa. Thought he would have been a very good option for us. Proven goal scorer in a tough league. So either we now cannot even compete with Villa in the transfer market. Which would be very alarming. Or Levy still has an ace up his sleeve. But I certainly won’t be holding my breath on that front. I’d be well happy if we were to get Milik through the door but fully expect that he will be too rich for us.

 

[John48]

We've been ready to do something on a striker for a week or two, but there's little action on what is a crucial signing after the last couple of years we've had with injuries.

 

[USAYID]

I dont think Kane would agree with you so would you be forcing his dissatisfaction?

It shouldn't be up to him, that's the coach's call. JM has to manage the team through the entire season, and if that means that Kane has to sit on the bench or be out of the team for some of the earlier European and League cup games, or be rested for "easier" games, then that surely will extend his career and make improve the chances that he is fit for the crucial games.

 

[BENNO]

Hopefully he can see that he'll get lots of opportunities, Kane needs rest and the option of a partner. Every year he breaks down because we over play him.

I absolutely agree (as does everyone else) that wee need another Striker. But if you look at Kane's lay off record it was usually , up until last season, because he turned his ankle tackling/blocking through his desire to help the team defend from the front. The latest injury, yeah, probably over playing - although even that was questioned by a leading surgeon, was put down to sheer bad luck given it wasn't a typical hamstring pull (like Dele for example).

Edit: Sorry, responded to post before reading any further and now seen point about Kanes injuries has been addressed perfectly well without my two pennies worth.

 

[onthetwo]

The penny just dropped re the GOAT's 'Latte' ITK!

 

[Henry Percy]

"Every year he doesn't "break down" at all. That would be a description of a player who has chronic hamstring injuries or low-level illness. Kane has had a succession of impact injuries. IIRC, every one of his ankle injuries has been sustained in a tackle or collision. That's not the result of overplaying, it's the consequence of his committed playing style and the desperation of opponents to contain him."

I take your point that he is not breaking down with a chronic injury. Kane makes a statement in the All or nothing that the players are not robots, playing 3 games in a week is too much. He then is injured in the new years eve 3rd game. Injuries are not just from his style but due to fatigue, wear and tear on muscles that result in over compensation. Also fatigue mentally that results in poor decisons, pushing or challenging over committing to a tackle. The mind and body need time to recover and proper preperation to prevent injuries. Other positions have rotation, Kane is played almost every single game even when he is not 100%. It is not good for him or the club not to have a proper back up.

 

[Spurs2020]

levy better damn well sign him... if we don't get milik and just lost a transfer war to villa for watkins this is embarassing..

 

[TonyK]

The penny just dropped re the GOAT's 'Latte' ITK!

Would that maybe be a milik-y latte onthetwo?? Hope so!

Any ideas who CH and ST might be in Hercules ITK post yesterday??

 

[Shadydan]

agree
I think Kane is flogged to death after watching the amazon doc, i feel for Kane, why does kane play so much for England he should be rested more often and looked after it should not solely be down to spurs!

Players like that want to play every match, it in their mentality - just look at Ronaldo and Messi for example.

 

[Shadydan]

Ollie Watkins just been confirmed by Villa. Thought he would have been a very good option for us. Proven goal scorer in a tough league. So either we now cannot even compete with Villa in the transfer market. Which would be very alarming. Or Levy still has an ace up his sleeve. But I certainly won’t be holding my breath on that front. I’d be well happy if we were to get Milik through the door but fully expect that he will be too rich for us.

Or maybe Watkins wants guaranteed first team football, whose coming here to sit on the bench and be Kane's backup?

 

[Japhet]

It shouldn't be up to him, that's the coach's call. JM has to manage the team through the entire season, and if that means that Kane has to sit on the bench or be out of the team for some of the earlier European and League cup games, or be rested for "easier" games, then that surely will extend his career and make improve the chances that he is fit for the crucial games.

Fair point, but there's zero evidence that Kane has ever seen it that way. He's historically come back from injuries too quickly and Poch certainly didn't have the bottle to tell him to be sensible and bide his time for his own good.

 

[TonyK]

Or maybe Watkins wants guaranteed first team football, whose coming here to sit on the bench and be Kane's backup?

I would find it hard to believe that a young, hungry, English striker wouldn't have wanted to have come to us over Villa Shadydan and learn his trade from the best in the business. And with the cups and Ropey he would probably have been given plenty of opportunity. HK will need to start accepting that he cannot play every single game of every competition and Jose needs to manage that correctly this season.