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The Tao of Eriksen

mil1lion

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I just think it's a matter of having players out wide who are far less predictable. That's the most frustrating thing about watching us attack. There's not enough intelligence in the final third. I'm not going to rule out Lamela and Chadli as the answer because they're still both young and still have room for improvement. However I would like to see them go outside more rather than so frequently coming inside all the time. They need to understand when a game is tight that they should make things happen by trying a different approach. It's not enough when they just switch wings if all they do are the same things but on the other side of the pitch.

When Bale started to roam at first it took time before he came good at it. He was often struggling to influence a game and was more affective driving on the outside of the fullback than when he came inside or switched wings. It was only the 2nd half of his final season when he exploded into life and even then it wasn't consistent, just some long range specials that dug us out of drawing or losing situations mixed with mesmorizing long runs.

I'm not necessarily suggesting we need traditional wingers, certainly not one dimensional ones that only play out wide like Lennon does. I do appreciate the evolution of football and particularly the new style of winger. However I just don't see that evolution in our wide players. There's still hope for Lamela and Chadli, I'll include Townsend too because although often frustrating has shown signs of adaptability. They're all young players and the role they have in the team is demanding, it requires great discipline.

Even Mata was sold by Mourinho because he couldn't take that responsibility required out wide. I feel that Chadli and Lamela as they are now would both be more ideal in the same role as Eriksen and not yet developed enough to play the wide role. They have been here 2 seasons now as has Eriksen so there's no reason why they shouldn't all be on the same wavelength. I just don't see a trio there that work collectively well together, certainly not consistently enough.
 

Nebby

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Well assists stats weren't great when playing for the top team in the dutch league.

So what's the point of this thread then? If his assists stats weren't great at Ajax, why should we be surprised or even concerned that his assist stats aren't great at Spurs?
 

Dembele'Disciple

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There's a lot missing in his game in order for him to be a classy Midfield 10, so we need to move him away from the position. The fact is the man can't create space for himself or for his team-mates. He's not world class in tight spaces, fact is, his ball retention and level of technical ability doesn't allow him to be that player. So how about we stop all that nonsense and stick him in midfield(as the 8). If his defending is too much of an issue, then we stick him on the bench.
 

Bus-Conductor

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So what's the point of this thread then? If his assists stats weren't great at Ajax, why should we be surprised or even concerned that his assist stats aren't great at Spurs?

Because the first question was why wasn't he producing as many assists as last season where he averaged almost 1 in 2 games when you convert his minutes on the pitch.

It wasn't until I looked back further while researching the piece that I noticed his last season wasn't prolific for Ajax. To mitigate that he did play in the middle third for Ajax not as an AM, so it's not straightforward.
 

stevespurs

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Could his lack of assists, be simply down to the stats about the extra ground he's covering? His tracking back and tackling has definitely improved, but maybe it takes him away from what he does best.

This season, he has looked physically stronger in the tackle, not as easy to push off the ball, maybe even half a yard quicker too? But I thought he was afforded less time and space on the ball, in the central position.

It is understandable why he looked so knackered at stages, throughout the second half season.
 

ultimateloner

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Chadli has more assists and goals than Eriksen this year. This tells you that maybe it's a role thing and not an ability thing and I think much has to do with how Kane operates.

Kane thrives from crosses. He rarely plays off the defender as he doesn't have the pace to break. So throughballs arent his game.

Chadli being a winger provides crosses so he gets more assists than Eriksen who feeds throughballs. I think if we play Eriksen on the wing his assists numbers will go up, but less goals.
 

DaSpurs

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Chadli has more assists and goals than Eriksen this year. This tells you that maybe it's a role thing and not an ability thing and I think much has to do with how Kane operates.

Kane thrives from crosses. He rarely plays off the defender as he doesn't have the pace to break. So throughballs arent his game.

Chadli being a winger provides crosses so he gets more assists than Eriksen who feeds throughballs. I think if we play Eriksen on the wing his assists numbers will go up, but less goals.

This was undoubtedly Sherwood's exact logic last season. He himself rued our lack of a quality passer from deep, so he simply stuck his most creative player out on the wing to get him the ball (because all our midfielders did was pass sideways anyway) and gave him two big targets to ping. Worked well against the teams below, but any team with the quality to get in behind and hurt did so and how. That 4-4-2 was an emergency formation designed to win as many points as possible, and wasn't one designed to improve the squad for the future.
 

ultimateloner

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This was undoubtedly Sherwood's exact logic last season. He himself rued our lack of a quality passer from deep, so he simply stuck his most creative player out on the wing to get him the ball (because all our midfielders did was pass sideways anyway) and gave him two big targets to ping. Worked well against the teams below, but any team with the quality to get in behind and hurt did so and how. That 4-4-2 was an emergency formation designed to win as many points as possible, and wasn't one designed to improve the squad for the future.

Possibly. But as thing stand it's Kane's movement that we are accommodating.
 

Blake Griffin

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eriksen has one goal and one assist in his last 19 games for us - and even the goal he did get was a flukey townsend-esque cross.

#stillnotanumber10
 

yido_number1

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eriksen has one goal and one assist in his last 19 games for us - and even the goal he did get was a flukey townsend-esque cross.

#stillnotanumber10
#StillInconsistent more like. The thing is there was a period when he was unstoppable around Christmas new year. We just need to learn how to get him into the game in the right area's more. When he does go on one of his less consistent runs swap him out and give him a break.
 

Bus-Conductor

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To be fair to Eriksen, I think he was possibly the most over used player in our main group last season. He really needed a rest in the spring and didn't get it. He looked utterly fucked at times in that last phase of the season I thought.

The bottom line for me right now is that Eriksen is a very good footballer, one I'd rather have in the side than some of the alternatives we have available most weeks, he will see as much ball as a CM most games, sometimes more, he chips in with goals, which is vital, but he isn't productive enough in terms of pure assists - playing that final incisive ball.

If you class him as a midfielder he's bringing enough all round to justify a place most weeks. If you class him as a playmaker No.10 type, then he's not quite doing enough.

The good news is we now have players like Pritchard, Carroll, Onomah and Winks who can all vie for similar roles and will hopefully push the best out of each other.
 

Hazelton

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I'd still like to see him used a little deeper, playing a Fabregas or Iniesta role. We can't do it at the moment because we barely have enough attacking threat as it is, but if we bring in a couple of forwards as reported, I'd like to see us try it out. He needs to get on the ball more, and moving deeper would certainly help him do that.

Chances are it wouldn't work, but it's worth trying it out.
 

double0

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Eriksen is getting a hard time from our supporters not happy with his performancies.
I think people want Eriksen to dominate games more but are not really seeing it from the Dane. Eriksen on an off day is still a shoe in for me in the first 11, he's such an elusive player and will get opportunities regardless of the opponent unlike Dembele that has no treat at all. Against United Eriksen (Kane) were our main threat to score and IMO the link up play with Kane is at times beautiful.
 

adamsky

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The main problem for Eriksen is the onus of creativity is pretty much solely on him. We need to share the burden more and get him into dangerous positions because he is a very good finisher too.
 

Spursh

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Statistically he covers a lot of ground, but it's rarely with any sort of intensity or conviction. He doesn't quite have the tenacity, clever-feet and vision to create, retain possession and evade markers in tight spaces centrally. It's strange that he is in that pivotal role in a Poch midfield, given his lack of aggression and bravery needed to press as the manager wants.

I really think it would serve him and us better if he was deployed on the left, giving him more room to operate and make runs into space, as well as utilising his excellent crossing ability.

For his weaknesses at the moment, I'd really like to see Lamela given that no.10 berth. He struggles out wide because he only has one line of attack (very left footed) and doesn't have the acceleration needed to beat his marker. At least in that central role he can play on his instincts a little more as pace isn't a requisite attribute to be effective there. I also think he has very decent vision, and his work rate and aggression would make us stronger down the spine. It's also his natural position and it would be a shame to write him off before he's given a run in his favoured role.
 
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