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Herc has posted in the nuamah thread:
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Retaining financial control over a player no longer under contract sounds suspiciously like “Bosman”Maybe we should have contracts like they do in the NFL; if you don’t make the squad your contract is terminated although we would still hold the player’s registration so would still be due a transfer fee should they move to another club. Radical I know but this logjam has to be broken up somehow . That might make players and agents more keen to find a new club.
I don't care how fast they moan, I've had enough of whingers!I’m loving the links to the pacy wingers, I believe it’s vital in Ange’s system and definitely something we need to address before the window shuts.
Here’s hoping
*Almost* makes me wonder if this is the reason Ange left Deki in for 90 minutes.I’m loving the links to the pacy wingers, I believe it’s vital in Ange’s system and definitely something we need to address before the window shuts.
Here’s hoping
Powerful stuffThis is not itk, its ikt, I know this, all the talk about h kane, leaving no one player is bigger than the club, modric berbatov, I would not hold anything against this caliber of player, kane is a spurs legend, and he is right to move to bayern a top top club we have been blessed to have had him and I hope he goes on to win the balloon dor cause he is that good
I’m all for the positivity but they’re just links so far, nothing advanced it seems.Loving these links to young exciting wingers backed up by itk. Fantastic.
The rest of the whiny negative bullshit overloading this thread can fuck right off.
This just doesn’t make any sense at all and will only create the same situation in every future transfer window with Spurs having trouble to sell unwanted players when other clubs will know that we are bad at selling.Let me add here. We are having difficulty selling. Why? Because Daniel still wants a penny out of the pound., when to be frank, just write it off as much as you can. Take the loans with not great terms. We have money, and now we are stuck, because this is embarrassing.
berbatov plays wellThis is not itk, its ikt, I know this, all the talk about h kane, leaving no one player is bigger than the club, modric berbatov, I would not hold anything against this caliber of player, kane is a spurs legend, and he is right to move to bayern a top top club we have been blessed to have had him and I hope he goes on to win the balloon dor cause he is that good
Their MO feels like a no lose gamble - bring in young talent, work with them and loan them out. If they develop into a great player in a couple of years, keep them and integrate them into the squad. If not, sell them on for a small profit.“Some old movie star” being Oscar Wilde.
But aside from that I sort of agree it could be contributory factor, but still think that by far the main problems are how hard it is to negotiate with DL. and that most of our players haven’t been as good as Man City’s. or Chelsea’s because they throw cash at the best youngsters and farm them out with little expectancy of doing much other than selling them on.
It’s part of their MO, and not ours.
There are other issues too, but it probably deserves a different thread.Their MO feels like a no lose gamble - bring in young talent, work with them and loan them out. If they develop into a great player in a couple of years, keep them and integrate them into the squad. If not, sell them on for a small profit.
They may not catch all of their world class players during this period (De Bruyne and Salah were both famously sold by Chelsea) but it’s a self sustaining business model, with a potential huge upside.
But for it to work, clubs need to be able to make a decision, and sell players.
There's also the issue that man city's fringe players are competing with the absolute best for a world class manager. If the player can't get into a team it's probably not because he's not good, it's probably that there are just 2/3 outstanding players for each position.Relating to the posts from WLB and Herc (big thanks to all the ITKs for their continued charing of inside info!) and our continued problems to sell players:
I found the Athletic article by C. Eccleshare from Wednesday ("Why Tottenham are struggling to sell their unwanted players") quite interesting. The usual arguments on our price demands and players reluctance to leave as well as the chasm like divide between PL clubs and the rest of Europe when it comes to financial muscle is discussed. But there is also a fourth point which I think is very relevant to our position:
It should also be pointed out that a club’s reputation can have a big effect on how easy or hard it is to sell players. (...) it’s amazing how different perceptions are of players when they’re at a club deemed to be a good place for them to develop. (He refers to how Man City can receive good money for their fringe players). And the opposite can be true — as Spurs have demonstrated. Tottenham’s struggles over recent years make it even harder to sell unwanted players because there’s no real sense from prospective buyers that it’s been a place where individuals have been well coached or picked up good habits. Until this perception changes and until big contracts that were handed out pre-Covid expire, selling players will remain a particularly acute problem for Spurs.
I do believe he´s on to something here; when, over the past 4 years, would one say that we have been a club where players will have had a positive development tactically, technically, physically and/or mentally? Spurs players might very well be seen as damaged goods because they are Spurs players.
You wouldn´t by a car from a dodgy dealer with a bad rep would you? The car itself might be outstanding, but the seller isn´t and thus you don´t trust that the car is actually any good.
The collective sum of nothing = nothingI have a question. If all itk are from different sources, why do they all collectively go quiet at the same time ?
Just to add I’m not itk bashing at all was just curious that’s all.The collective sum of nothing = nothing