The Cricket Thread

[UncleBuck]

Think this has been discussed before. I have no problem with a home team preparing a pitch that suits their bowlers (or batters), but I do think that a strip should be prepared in the same way from one end to the other. So no, you cant scalp one spot, and leave the grass long at another because that's where your bowlers bowl, or where a particular batsman is weaker.

There will be a little natural variation anyway, and the pitch will wear over 5 days as the game progresses. You shouldn't be able to do different things to different parts of the same strip.

That’s absolutely ridiculous but as mentioned by Dunc the BCCI are pretty much allowed to do whatever they want….

 

[dellybelly]

 

[midoshairband]

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feel for the kid, not a great experience for him. doubt he was going to play anyway, but surely given his heritage someone could have foreseen the issue and applied earlier.

i suppose we don't know the issue though.

 

[Impspur1]

feel for the kid, not a great experience for him. doubt he was going to play anyway, but surely given his heritage someone could have foreseen the issue and applied earlier.

i suppose we don't know the issue though.

Apparently application went in hours after he was selected. Can’t put it in before so not sure what else ECB can do

 

[dellybelly]

feel for the kid, not a great experience for him. doubt he was going to play anyway, but surely given his heritage someone could have foreseen the issue and applied earlier.

i suppose we don't know the issue though.

Unfortunately, we do know the issue. BCCI controls cricket and BJP controls the BCCI.
I would really have liked England to make a stand like they did in the D'Oliveira issue in SA.
As a British Indian, it pains me to see how much bullying the BCCI are allowed to get away with.

 

[midoshairband]

Apparently application went in hours after he was selected. Can’t put it in before so not sure what else ECB can do

ah right, fair enough then.

such a shame for the young lad regardless. hopefully he gets it sorted and gets out there asap.

 

[Impspur1]

It really stinks, not good for cricket and not good for the kid. Never going to happen but I would have loved for us to say “we all come or we all don’t”. If everyone takes the same stance things may change but until they do the BCCI will carry on running cricket

 

[UncleBuck]

It really stinks, not good for cricket and not good for the kid. Never going to happen but I would have loved for us to say “we all come or we all don’t”. If everyone takes the same stance things may change but until they do the BCCI will carry on running cricket

Funny how only nine hours ago I said exactly that and that was in reference to the wicket they are ‘preparing’.
The ICC needs to grow a pair but then it’s been like this for the last fifteen years.

 

[Impspur1]

Funny how only nine hours ago I said exactly that and that was in reference to the wicket they are ‘preparing’.
The ICB needs to grow a pair but then it’s been like this for the last fifteen years.

Tbh I don’t have too much of an issue with the wicket prep, it’s part of touring and adapting to different conditions but this is restricting our selection pool which isn’t right.

 

[UncleBuck]

Tbh I don’t have too much of an issue with the wicket prep, it’s part of touring and adapting to different conditions but this is restricting our selection pool which isn’t right.

Home teams have done it for years, it’s always been part of the armoury for a home team but whatever the pitch conditions they were always true throughout the whole wicket, just look at PoS in ‘93, both ends could have killed someone not just one end!
Shaving bits off here and there and roughing up patches to suit one particular bowler at a specific end, for me, just isn’t cricket.

 

[Impspur1]

Home teams have done it for years, it’s always been part of the armoury for a home team but whatever the pitch conditions they were always true throughout the whole wicket, just look at PoS in ‘93, both ends could have killed someone not just one end!
Shaving bits off here and there and roughing up patches to suit one particular bowler at a specific end, for me, just isn’t cricket.

Yeah when you put it like that it’s hard to disagree with

 

[Barmy_in_Palmy]

 

[Barmy_in_Palmy]

Im not upset or annoyed.

 

[midoshairband]

interesting team for the first test...

Hartley to make England debut in first India Test

England name three specialist spinners in their XI for the first Test in India, which begins on Thursday in Hyderabad.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Dunc2610]

That's a bowling attack that'll get smashed around! I don't really rate Hartley, he's a decent 20/50 over bowler, but definitely not international class. Only one seamer as Stokes won't bowl (I doubt, based on Baz's statement a few days ago), Ahmed gets tap too, mind you Leach does as well. Hope I'm wrong though, I like the batting down to Foakes though.

 

[Impspur1]

interesting team for the first test...

Hartley to make England debut in first India Test

England name three specialist spinners in their XI for the first Test in India, which begins on Thursday in Hyderabad.

www.bbc.co.uk

Certainly brave

 

[Impspur1]

That's a bowling attack that'll get smashed around! I don't really rate Hartley, he's a decent 20/50 over bowler, but definitely not international class. Only one seamer as Stokes won't bowl (I doubt, based on Baz's statement a few days ago), Ahmed gets tap too, mind you Leach does as well. Hope I'm wrong though, I like the batting down to Foakes though.

But it may also be an attack that takes wickets quickly

 

[midoshairband]

That's a bowling attack that'll get smashed around! I don't really rate Hartley, he's a decent 20/50 over bowler, but definitely not international class. Only one seamer as Stokes won't bowl (I doubt, based on Baz's statement a few days ago), Ahmed gets tap too, mind you Leach does as well. Hope I'm wrong though, I like the batting down to Foakes though.

I dunno, I quote like that attack you know. has a bit of everything, maybe lacking the other seamer if Stokes can't bowl.

Hartley may not have the stats, but he has a great character and is a real competitor, that counts for a lot for Stokes/McCullum.

not sure i can see the test going more than 3 days!

 

[aussiespursguy]

For clarity, I was laughing at "DP World"!

 

[WorcesterTHFC]

Think this has been discussed before. I have no problem with a home team preparing a pitch that suits their bowlers (or batters), but I do think that a strip should be prepared in the same way from one end to the other. So no, you cant scalp one spot, and leave the grass long at another because that's where your bowlers bowl, or where a particular batsman is weaker.

There will be a little natural variation anyway, and the pitch will wear over 5 days as the game progresses. You shouldn't be able to do different things to different parts of the same strip.

Five days? Not if England's struggles against India's spinners are anything to go by.