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Do they have a Bell & Hare in Scotland?
Not that I know of, but would be a bit of a travel to get to for you guys to get to the game if there is
Do they have a Bell & Hare in Scotland?
Thought I came into a bell and hare thread, sorry people, carry on.
Oh and on the B&H, I really hope something can be sorted out. If not, looks like it'll be the Irish Center the next time I manage to make it to a game. I would try the Bricklayers but it's seemingly rammed full of hipsters these days. Or Norwegians. I get enough of that hurdy gurdy shit at home!
So because you've been OK, bullets flying don't affect the area? OK.
You are close to the place you call home and I respect that. But there are good people and a community in Harehills and Chapeltown but I'm not gonna sit here tell you they're not dangerous shitholes and businesses haven't suffered as a result.
Boston Manor here. I feel at home in Tottenham whether it is on match day or on a wet Tuesday night in December. The locals don't bother me and I don't bother the locals. It's all the twats who live in their lovely safe little villages who think everywhere is dangerous that make me laugh. They won't kill you if you don't look scared peeps.
The Brickies wouldn't be so busy if it wasn't for the massive bald bloke and his cronies who take up the space of 40 people.
So what you're saying is, you know more about the area I've lived in for nearly 40 years than I do, on the basis of some figures? I know many people on SC need no encouragement to talk bollocks about topics of which they have no knowledge whatsoever, but you're taking this to a whole new level.
Let me try again, as you're clearly in a very dense mood at the moment. Yes, there is gun crime, but it does not impinge on the daily lives of ordinary people in any meaningful way. I have heard gunshots once in all my time in Tottenham, an attempted security van heist 30-odd years ago. You made a particularly crass comment which implied that people couldn't go out on the High Road without risking being mown down by 'flying bullets' and, despite correction, seem to be persisting with this bullshit.
If the B&H has closed for good, which isn't completely certain, it's nothing to do with crime.
And yes, I have the advantage of you in having lived in Leeds for several years, if 40 years ago, so I know Chapeltown and Harehills well, far better than you know Tottenham and Haringey.
Will definitely check the Antwerp out. Thanks for the recommendation.The Pride of Tottenham's not bad—vasty better than the Two Brewers, which was a smashing little pub when I first moved to Tottenham but was completely wrecked—and then there's the Antwerp, which was shut for a long while after a fire but has reopened. That's probably the nicest pub in Tottenham, although there's not a great deal of competition. For beer, the Gilpin Bell wins hands-down.
I'm not saying I know everything about the area. I said "bullets flying every other night of the week". The stats back this up.
I couldn't give a flying fuck what you know pal. Those places are very different beasts to how they were back then - particularly the demographic. I understand why you'd be offended, but you cannot deny your local area has an issue with gun crime, you simply can't.
There is no attraction for anyone to go there at any other time than a match day, other than those that live there and a big reason for that is the crime.
I'll definitely make a stop at the Antwerp Arms next time. Sounds nice.See my suggestions above, RSS. The Antwerp Arms faces on to Bruce Castle Park and there's a broad grass verge over the road, so if it's a nice day it's a good bet. Not too many flying bullets either!
The Tottenham area is a lot safer than it was in the late 80's and early 90's
In what sense?
The introduction of CCTV. The farm and lordship lane was a no-go area late at night
I was brought up in the area up untill the early 90's....and i can't agree with you mate, we never had CCTV but roamed the area as kids all day and night, CCTV may put some off comminting crime but it certainly doesn't make it safer than the 80's. The area has been negleted shamefully by successive governments and is not the place i grew up in.
Well we're going to have to disagree on this. But the main trouble spots are a lot safer now.