Super League - for or against?

[tototoner]

Are you for or against a closed shop midweek European Super

 

[tommyt]

I think the novelty will wear off quickly.

The closed nature of it is bullshit.

Life-line for those big teams struggling with debt.

 

[robspur]

I’d prefer if it didn’t happen but I’d be even more unhappy if we weren’t part of it. The better question to ask is;

would you prefer Spurs to be in or out of the ESL. We’d have no chance of competing for EPL against the other 5 sitting outside of this

 

[Marty]

The whole excitement of playing the biggest European teams is that it doesn't happen often and when it does happen it's meaningful. Once the novelty wears off it'll get boring very quickly.

As for Spurs' role in this, it'll be like the 90s again only the teams that beat us will be more "glamorous". Huzzah.

It's a horrendous idea and I hope FIFA and the leagues throw the book at all clubs, including Spurs.

 

[Misfit]

Against but at least the ripcord has finally been pulled. The first decade of the PL was Ok, and the revamped CL was just about tolerable when it first came in but eh, this was inevitable. It's become less enjoyable with each year. Maybe it's just a part of growing older too?

Shoolboy's own stuff has been dead for a very long time. No avoiding that fact anymore though.

I tend to think the overall game itself will be diminished by this and hopes for a renaissance outside of this cash grab will not be realised, and think the PL teams getting involved in this is suicidally short-sighted. It makes a certain amount of sense for Juve and the Spanish clubs etc but the golden goose, money-wise, was already in the grasp of the English clubs IMO.

 

[GutBucket]

I am not against the idea, don't like the secrecy though and all teams inside should be equal IMO. Also I really like CL. I always thought this would happen in 20 years or so, every owner likes not having risk of relegation or missing out on top 4 and losing all that CL revenue.

 

[n17er]

Television rights held by DAZN so another subscription to pay for if you want to watch it.

 

[Robhotspur]

If anyone has watched South American league football.. MLS.. Chinese... League football it becomes clearer. Its like the warm up matches pre-season.. All your big European teams marketing themselves to new markets.. Because hell if there's one thing Europe has better than anywhere in the world.. Its league football.. Not corrupt or amateur or vapid games for bookies and profiteering.. The top European teams know there markets can grow to 3, 4 times the size they are now. European football is simply the elite of world league football. Eventually Chinese, Russian, Brazilian teams will be added.. As the game takes over globally.. I think its not so much as national leagues will suffer.. More like other sports will suffer as elite football takes over the remaining continents of World sport..

 

[Pochemon94]

Let me just say why i said yes, simply because it is happening and if we aren't in it we will be so beyond screwed. I don't want the league if it didn't happen but since it most likely is we have to go along with it, just the sad state of football and the money behind it

 

[AustroSpur]

I find the assortment of clubs a bit strange. Why no German or French clubs? Although I understand it would then be too similar to what we already have with the CL. Also not really sure what the mode will be, need to look it up but for now it doesn´t sit right with me. Playing the same teams over and over again? I´d actually prefer the odd Europa League campaign which draws us to teams we not normally face.

I understand it´s off topic and too much of a hassle in terms of logistics, but some sort of World League would have more appeal to me - adding teams from South America, maybe the biggest teams out of Asia and/or Africa would be something I´d be more interested in, but seeing us whipped by the likes of Barcelona, Real, Juventus and (God forbid) Liverpool all the time? No thanks

 

[Pochemon94]

I find the assortment of clubs a bit strange. Why no German or French clubs? Although I understand it would then be too similar to what we already have with the CL. Also not really sure what the mode will be, need to look it up but for now it doesn´t sit right with me. Playing the same teams over and over again? I´d actually prefer the odd Europa League campaign which draws us to teams we not normally face.

I understand it´s off topic and too much of a hassle in terms of logistics, but some sort of World League would have more appeal to me - adding teams from South America, maybe the biggest teams out of Asia and/or Africa would be something I´d be more interested in, but seeing us whipped by the likes of Barcelona, Real, Juventus and (God forbid) Liverpool all the time? No thanks

Germany has the 50+1 rule so this would most likely be voted no on, PSG has the champions league semi finals coming up and don't want to do anything to jeopardize that, once they get knocked out or win the thing they will announce they are in it

 

[EssexSH27]

Feels like we're one of the blokes that have secured a seat on one of the life boats on the titanic. Like it's embarrassing to be sat on there coasting away from the iceberg when it wasn't honourable to do so, but you're relived that you're paddling away.

I dont like it. But been disillusioned with football for a while. Harry Kanes rise only thing that's kept me from giving up in past few years.

 

[camspur65]

You have to vote on the principle, not on whether you feel 'we had no choice to say yes if this was in motion' (which will be the Club's main defence for this shabby course of action)

On the principle, you just ask yourself - are you in favour of a meritocracy or not?

The principled answer has to be yes.

That allows for the non-elite, but well managed clubs, to have their occasional day in the sun (Porto winning the CL for eg. They would never win it under this new ESL)

And that's before you get into the arguments about the Football Pyramid, and the disgust I feel for rich clubs owned by dubious offshore owners deciding on what happens in football.

I hope this causes some soul searching about the pathetic state of football governance, none of which put fans interests above profit.

The club we love is now a business that happens to be in football

Unfortunately we all fell in love with the football club, not a balance sheet

THST's strong statement overnight is what I stand behind.

 

[The Opinionated Lurker]

The whole excitement of playing the biggest European teams is that it doesn't happen often and when it does happen it's meaningful. Once the novelty wears off it'll get boring very quickly.

As for Spurs' role in this, it'll be like the 90s again only the teams that beat us will be more "glamorous". Huzzah.

It's a horrendous idea and I hope FIFA and the leagues throw the book at all clubs, including Spurs.

This is a common thought I’ve seen a lot, I’d like to think I’m not alone in thinking that if I’m gonna see the likes of Sissoko get the runaround every week, I’d rather see it from the best than some of the bums we’ve lost to this season but hey at least they earned the right to do it. And it’s not exactly the same as the 90s bc we’ll be/already are rich as fuck lol

 

[Spursmatty87]

I’m against it, but I also do not think UEFA or FIFA are Fit for purpose.

From a premier league point of view I start all teams involved on -20 pts next season for bringing the game in to disrupt.

 

[NEVILLEB]

It’s effectively cheating which is the lowest thing you can do in sport.

 

[Timberwolf]

Horrible in so many ways.

1. Keeps the rich clubs rich and the poor clubs poor to such a degree that there will never ever be a new entrant into the so-called 'top 6'. The big clubs are just pulling the ladder up behind them.

2. Devalues the EPL and other top leagues. There's bound to be less TV money with the Super League to compete against, which with further weaken the non top-6 clubs and is bound to send some clubs into a financial tail-spin.

3. Devalues European competition. Who gives a shit about Spurs vs Real Madrid when you can watch it twice a season. Nothing in Europe will ever feel as exciting and magical as it once did, and lots of hardcore fans will be unable to attend most away games due to the sheer frequency and cost.

If this goes ahead I will take a serious step back in my support of Spurs. It's ideologically rancid and I'm against every single thing that it stands for.

 

[Rosco1984]

Hate the concept and the idea but if your lucky like we have been to be invited then you have to join or risk being left well and truly behind. it would be suicide to say no as it seems to be going ahead regardless.

 

[Martinhotspur]

Against it. There was nothing wrong with the European Cup, Uefa Cup and the Cup Winners Cup.
The Champions League and Premier league was the beginning of the end for football.

 

[Robhotspur]

You have to vote on the principle, not on whether you feel 'we had no choice to say yes if this was in motion' (which will be the Club's main defence for this shabby course of action)

On the principle, you just ask yourself - are you in favour of a meritocracy or not?

The principled answer has to be yes.

That allows for the non-elite, but well managed clubs, to have their occasional day in the sun (Porto winning the CL for eg. They would never win it under this new ESL)

And that's before you get into the arguments about the Football Pyramid, and the disgust I feel for rich clubs owned by dubious offshore owners deciding on what happens in football.

I hope this causes some soul searching about the pathetic state of football governance, none of which put fans interests above profit.

The club we love is now a business that happens to be in football

Unfortunately we all fell in love with the football club, not a balance sheet

THST's strong statement overnight is what I stand behind.

When sheople stop fauning over media celebrities, governed by mobile phones and distracted bt reality TV, then perhaps we can make a change. Until then this system of pyramid capitalism will continue and acceptance of the situation is imperative. It will only change when us plebs of the world stop being led by media and appeased by delusions of superheroes.