Summer transfer mission

[whitelanefever]

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Thanks I'll apply my new found Knowledge with immediate effect.

 

[whitelanefever]

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Is that any better Sir ?

 

[Blake Griffin]

Veljkovic has made 3 starts for Middlesborough so we can pretty much rule him out making any sort of impact for us next season.

the same way we could pretty much rule out bentaleb making an impact ... before he made an impact? no one knows how veljkovic would do, for all we know he's the next nemanja matic - he certainly looks enough like him. i'm sure arsenal wouldn't have bothered spending £12m on debuchy if they knew then what they know now which is that hector bellerin with his grand total of eight appearances at championship level is already the better player.

 

[ilikeost]

Is that any better Sir ?

Nope.

Like this:

I agree with you to an extent.. it does make sense to sign young players to develop, however you also have to look at what's in your own academy to develop & we have Oduwa coming through, if we sign players in there early 20's there just going to be blocking a path to the first team for him because realistically the plan for him must be a season or two on loan & then be involved in the first team squad & Pochettino has said he wants players who want to improve & learn regardless of age, Nolito has shown that & instead of been ridiculed as a cast off should be applauded.

I also disagree about been nowhere the standard required because regardless of wether he was mainly a Barca B player Barcelona don't sign players with poor technique, your also incorrect in saying he did not feature for the first team.. he did in his last season albeit very rarely but he was involved with the first team squad & might only have a handful of first team starts but he was on the bench a fair few times & they wanted to keep him. He was very good his first season at Benfica & then through injury & proceeding a lack of form decided to leave. You are right about him hitting form the last few years & he's 28 just hitting his peak years which again shows you the value of having a work ethic & desire to imrove.

I'd never question Thauvin's ability but he's a bit of a pissy footballer & don't see any cajhones about him & hits me as another moaning fenchman who thinks he's made it & we've had enough of them already imo especially if there going to be blocking the path of oduwa.. what message does that send out to academy players.. we need to strike a balance of signing youth & experience as there's no point in signing a player at the expense of a highly regarded academy player.

I find it interesting you think Nasri is a Exceptional player.. seems to me he's a bit of a flake & there's a big big difference in having exceptional ability & been a exceptional player.. I really can't remember the last match he was exceptional in, I can't recall him been outstanding in any game this season & he was always like that even at Arsenal he would play well for 3 months & then put his feet up for the rest of the season.. Top players are consistently good not just when they feel like it.. great ability but he is certainly not a great player

 

[whitelanefever]

Nope.

Like this:

Ah ok.. I'll remember next time as couldn't be fooked changing it again but I have learned something today & for that I thank you.

 

[ilikeost]

Ah ok.. I'll remember next time as couldn't be fooked changing it again but I have learned something today & for that I thank you.

Not sure if you are being sarcastic or not. Writing in paragraphs just makes it so much easier to read. When you are faced with a wall of text like the one you started of with a lot of people won't even bother to read it.

 

[whitelanefever]

Not sure if you are being sarcastic or not. Writing in paragraphs just makes it so much easier to read. When you are faced with a wall of text like the one you started of with a lot of people won't even bother to read it.

Seriously I'm not been sarcastic & your right it does make it easier to read & I get your point otherwise the reader will just skim past post without reading & I have done this myself so really should have known better.. so yeah I do mean thanks

 

[Shadydan]

the same way we could pretty much rule out bentaleb making an impact ... before he made an impact? no one knows how veljkovic would do, for all we know he's the next nemanja matic - he certainly looks enough like him. i'm sure arsenal wouldn't have bothered spending £12m on debuchy if they knew then what they know now which is that hector bellerin with his grand total of eight appearances at championship level is already the better player.

Well he's not really is he

 

[Hoddle&Waddle]

the same way we could pretty much rule out bentaleb making an impact ... before he made an impact? no one knows how veljkovic would do, for all we know he's the next nemanja matic - he certainly looks enough like him. i'm sure arsenal wouldn't have bothered spending £12m on debuchy if they knew then what they know now which is that hector bellerin with his grand total of eight appearances at championship level is already the better player.

For me the key thing is not over doing it when bringing players in, thus leaving a path for our younger players to emerge. Essentially we should only look to spend money improving the first 11, which would leave plenty of room and opportunity for the young players to get onto the bench, and then if their good enough into the first team. We need to make sure we have a good mix of experience and youth.

So my question is, do we have any youngsters that are better than Mason and are ready to step in right now? I think most would say no, hence why we need to look on the market.

What we dont need to do is what we did under AVB, which was sign 23 International's and block any path for our youngsters. I have total faith that Poch wont do this, and when we have a youngster ready to come into the team Poch will look at doing that. Trying to force players in just because they are young, have some ability and happen to have come through our youth system is not the way to go IMO. What we'll end up with is a team going nowhere and the better kids getting picked off by Clubs that are actually doing something and showing some ambition.

 

[Japhet]

Well he's not really is he

.......and he's surrounded by seasoned pros.

 

[Blake Griffin]

Well he's not really is he

wenger seems to think so. as do arsenal fans - http://arsenal-mania.com/forum/threads/hector-bellerin-is-coming-along.27876/page-16

looks like he has everything to become a complete full back to me.

 

[Shadydan]

wenger seems to think so. as do arsenal fans - http://arsenal-mania.com/forum/threads/hector-bellerin-is-coming-along.27876/page-16

looks like he has everything to become a complete full back to me.

Yeah it's a bit premature to call him better than an experienced Premiership full back, let's just wait until next season where you'd expect his overall form levels out at least.

 

[JohannTHFC]

the same way we could pretty much rule out bentaleb making an impact ... before he made an impact? no one knows how veljkovic would do, for all we know he's the next nemanja matic - he certainly looks enough like him. i'm sure arsenal wouldn't have bothered spending £12m on debuchy if they knew then what they know now which is that hector bellerin with his grand total of eight appearances at championship level is already the better player.

You can't just not make signings and put youth into the team mate. Even Sherwood, who wanted to rebuild the team around youth said he wanted to sign experienced players last Summer so the youth can learn from them. He also spoke about certain players having the right mentality and Bentaleb being one of them. We don't know if the players you've been talking about are ready yet, only the coaching staff know that.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

OK, I'll try again to create a realistic squad for next season.

Current squad:

Lloris
Vorm
Friedel

Walker
Yedlin

Dier
Kaboul
Chiriches
Vertonghen
Fazio

Rose
Davies

Bentaleb
Mason
Capoue
Dembele
Paulinho
Stambouli

Lamela
Townsend

Chadli

Eriksen

Soldado
Adebayor
Kane

On loan:
Holtby
Lennon
Carroll
Alli
Pritchard
Archer
Fredericks
Veljkovic

This summer:

Out:

Friedel
Kaboul
Chiriches
Paulinho
Capoue
Townsend
Soldado
Adebayor
Holtby
Lennon
Carroll
Dembele/Stambouli
Fredericks (on loan)
Veljkovic (on loan)

In:
Alli
Pritchard
Archer
Wimmer
Alderwiereld
McCarthy/Schneiderlin
Konoplyanka
Mirallas
Ings

New squad:

Lloris
Vorm
Archer

Walker
Yedlin

Dier
Wimmer
Alderwiereld
Vertonghen
Fazio

Rose
Davies

Bentaleb
Mason
Alli
Dembele/Stambouli
McCarthy/Schneiderlin

Lamela
Mirallas

Konoplyanka

Eriksen
Pritchard

Ings
Chadli
Kane

 

[HairyHotspur]

OK, I'll try again to create a realistic squad for next season.

Current squad:

Lloris
Vorm
Friedel

Walker
Yedlin


Dier
Kaboul
Chiriches
Vertonghen
Fazio

Rose
Davies

Bentaleb
Mason
Capoue
Dembele
Paulinho
Stambouli

Lamela
Townsend

Chadli

Eriksen

Soldado
Adebayor
Kane

On loan:
Holtby
Lennon
Carroll
Alli
Pritchard
Archer
Fredericks
Veljkovic

This summer:

Out:

Friedel
Kaboul
Chiriches
Paulinho
Capoue
Townsend
Soldado
Adebayor
Holtby
Lennon
Carroll
Dembele/Stambouli
Fredericks (on loan)
Veljkovic (on loan)

In:
Alli
Pritchard
Archer
Wimmer
Alderwiereld
McCarthy/Schneiderlin
Konoplyanka
Mirallas
Ings

New squad:

Lloris
Vorm
Archer

Walker
Yedlin

Dier
Wimmer
Alderwiereld
Vertonghen
Fazio

Rose
Davies

Bentaleb
Mason
Alli
Dembele/Stambouli
McCarthy/Schneiderlin

Lamela
Mirallas

Konoplyanka

Eriksen
Pritchard

Ings
Chadli
Kane

You need to get out more mate.

Go on,go for a nice evening stroll,you will feel much better.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

You need to get out more mate.

Go on,go for a nice evening stroll,you will feel much better.

Oh yeah, I remember you, you're the guy who wrote some abusive message on my profile. Don't give a toss what you think. Have a good evening.

 

[TheAmerican]

Gameiro has been phenomenal so far against Madrid, he would be a nice creative option for one of the wings.

 

[Chris12]

OK, I'll try again to create a realistic squad for next season.

Current squad:

Lloris
Vorm
Friedel

Walker
Yedlin

Dier
Kaboul
Chiriches
Vertonghen
Fazio

Rose
Davies

Bentaleb
Mason
Capoue
Dembele
Paulinho
Stambouli

Lamela
Townsend

Chadli

Eriksen

Soldado
Adebayor
Kane

On loan:
Holtby
Lennon
Carroll
Alli
Pritchard
Archer
Fredericks
Veljkovic

This summer:

Out:

Friedel
Kaboul
Chiriches
Paulinho
Capoue
Townsend
Soldado
Adebayor
Holtby
Lennon
Carroll
Dembele/Stambouli
Fredericks (on loan)
Veljkovic (on loan)

In:
Alli
Pritchard
Archer
Wimmer
Alderwiereld
McCarthy/Schneiderlin
Konoplyanka
Mirallas
Ings

New squad:

Lloris
Vorm
Archer

Walker
Yedlin

Dier
Wimmer
Alderwiereld
Vertonghen
Fazio

Rose
Davies

Bentaleb
Mason
Alli
Dembele/Stambouli
McCarthy/Schneiderlin

Lamela
Mirallas

Konoplyanka

Eriksen
Pritchard

Ings
Chadli
Kane

 

[THFCSPURS19]

What do you take issue with?

Wimmer is done apparently.

I think Poch may want another starting CB (e.g. Alderweireld), although I personally don't think it's that necessary

We still apparently want Schneiderlin, and there's been ITK about McCarthy

We've been linked with Konoplyanka and Mirallas for ages, and it's clear we need better attackers.

And Ings is clearly a target based on reports, ITK and common sense.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Gameiro has been phenomenal so far against Madrid, he would be a nice creative option for one of the wings.

He only came on about 12 minutes ago....